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ServantOfChrist2
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In the solitude of this statutory holiday in Canada, I found myself reflecting on listening to God....hearing God's voice.
It isn't a skill we all are born with. I certainly wasn't created with this ability.
Certainly to maintain a closeness, I've found that immersing myself in His Word everyday helps. And presenting my requests to Him through prayer at least once every day help in this regard also.
Keeping yourself open to Him and asking for His guidance helps also.
But I believe that one of the most important things I do in this regard, is to confess my need of His help in accomplishing this task. Even in this forum we have read how many people have no idea of how to do this.
Included in my prayer every morning are these sentences: "Please help me to be more sensitive to Your voice. Please bless me with a greater amount of spiritual discernment.'
This does seem to help a little. 
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| Aug 3 @ 1:45 PM |
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iam01
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The capacity to hallucinate is in most people. The capacity to believe in fairytales is in everyone. Keeping yourself open for manipulation is how one becomes gullible and superstitious. Its the way to keep yourself closed from reality, facts, knowledge, logic and reason.
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| Aug 3 @ 3:13 PM |
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iam01
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Another Christian who heard God's voice and says he met Jesus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKGtcVoBhBQ
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| Aug 5 @ 11:08 PM |
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Jankia
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If hearing Gods voice were a skill we were born with SOC wouldnt that skill be taken for granted?
In order to hear God better we need to get to know God better personally.
Those that dont try to know God are the same that question those of us that do hear Gods voice through the voice of not only each other but by obeying our own conscience and spending time alone with God through prayer.
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| Aug 5 @ 11:27 PM |
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iam01
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What happens when all 3000 gods start talking at the same time? 
Agdistis or Angdistis
Ah Puch
Ahura Mazda
Alberich
Allah
Amaterasu
An
Anansi
Anat
Andvari
Anshar
Anu
Aphrodite
Apollo
Apsu
Ares
Artemis
Asclepius
Athena
Athirat
Athtart
Atlas
Ba Xian
Baal
Bacchus
Balder
Bast
Bellona
Bergelmir
Bes
Bixia Yuanjin
Bragi
Brahma
Brigit
Camaxtli
Ceres
Ceridwen
Cernunnos
Chac
Chalchiuhtlicue
Charun
Chemosh
Cheng-huang
Cybele
Dagon
Damkina (Dumkina)
Davlin
Dawn
Demeter
Di Cang
Diana
Dionysus
Ea
El
Enki
Enlil
Eos
Epona
Ereskigal
Farbauti
Fenrir
Forseti
Freya
Freyr
Frigg
Gaia
Ganesha
Ganga
Garuda
Gauri
Geb
Geong Si
Hades
Hanuman
Hathor
Hecate (Hekate)
Helios
Heng-o (Chang-o)
Hephaestus
Hera
Hermes
Hestia
Hod
Hoderi
Hoori
Horus
Hotei
Hsi-Wang-Mu
Huitzilopochtli
Hygeia
Inanna
Inti
Iris
Ishtar
Isis
Ixtab
Izanaki
Izanami
Jesus
Juno
Jupiter
Juturna
Kagutsuchi
Kartikeya
Khepri
Ki
Kingu
Kinich Ahau
Kishar
Krishna
Kukulcan
Lakshmi
Liza
Loki
Lugh
Luna
Magna Mater
Maia
Marduk
Mars
Medb
Mercury
Mimir
Minerva
Mithras
Morrigan
Mot
Mummu
Muses
Nammu
Nanna
Nanna (Norse)
Nanse
Neith
Nemesis
Nephthys
Neptune
Nergal
Ninazu
Ninhurzag
Nintu
Ninurta
Njord
Nut
Odin
Ohkuninushi
Ohyamatsumi
Orgelmir
Osiris
Ostara
Pan
Parvati
Phaethon
Phoebe
Phoebus Apollo
Pilumnus
Poseidon
Quetzalcoatl
Rama
Re
Rhea
Sabazius
Sarasvati
Selene
Seshat
Seti (Set)
Shamash
Shapsu
Shen Yi
Shiva
Shiva
Shu
Sin
Sirona
Si-Wang-Mu
Sol
Surya
Susanoh
Tawaret
Tefnut
Tezcatlipoca
Thanatos
Thor
Thoth
Tiamat
Tlaloc
Tonatiuh
Toyo-Uke-Bime
Tyche
Tyr
Utu
Uzume
Venus
Vesta
Vishnu
Volturnus
Vulcan
Xi Wang-mu
Xipe
Xochipilli
Xochiquetzal
Yam
Yarikh
Yhwh
Ymir
Yu-huang
Yum Kimil
Zeus
Thats just over 200. I'm trying to figure out how to fit all 3000 gods in a post.
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| Aug 5 @ 11:42 PM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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Yes, Jankia, please re-read my second sentence: "It isn't a skill we all are born with."
I fully agee with you. "We need to get to know God better personally." Which is why I believe it is vitally important to read the Bible often. At least one time every day.
I absolutely agree with your ideas Jankia. Aren't we essentially saying the very same thing??
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| Aug 6 @ 6:33 AM |
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sealacamp
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At least one time every day.
Absolutely a necessary feeding of the spirit. If we are separated from His word when we hear a voice we won't know which one it is. The voices of deception will drown out the truth unless we know what is true. As for hearing Gods voice:
Son of man, thou dwellest in the midst of a rebellious house, which have eyes to see, and see not; they have ears to hear, and hear not: for they are a rebellious house.
Among other issues rebellion prevents many from hearing God or many things He has for us to hear. This world is full of people who are in full rebellion against God and mock those that submit to Him. So they can't see or hear anything that comes from God even though it is all right in front of their face.
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| Aug 6 @ 7:38 AM |
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sail_dancer
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Anyone that hears voices with no physical source of the voices, should make an appointment with a qualified mental health professional.
The process of determining what is right or wrong is not a verbal combat between a god and a devil. It is the processing of information by the brain to evaluate a situation.
Believing in invisible friends and enemies that actually speak to you is irrational and a clue that something is very wrong with your thought processing.
Peace
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| Aug 6 @ 9:02 AM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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Hi Sail_Dancer.  Don't see you around much any more.
Is it your opinion then that throughout the Bible are littered hallucinations from mentally ill individuals? 
Many times you have spoken highly of the teachings of Jesus Christ. I did not think that had you been there you would have told Him that "something is very wrong with your thought processing."
So you must believe then that beginning in Matthew 6:5, He was instructing His followers in how to cultivate mental problems. "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogs and on the street corners to be seen by men. i tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6--But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who see what is done in secret, will reward you. 7--And when you pray, do not keep babbling like pagans, for they believe they will be heard because of their many words. 8--Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him. 9--This, then, is how you should pray: 'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be Your name, 10--Your kingdom come, Your will be done on Earth as it is in heaven. 11--Give us today our daily bread. 12--Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13--And lead us not into temptation, and deliver us from the Evil One.'
Where do you draw the line of how much of what He has taught is the guidance of a wise person?
(Which you have stated many times I believe.)
And how much of what He taught are words of a deranged lunatic?
Unlike hammertime, you believe He walked the Earth don't you?
Are you hoping to discount even His teachings now too?
Could it be that inwardly you are just jealous?
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| Aug 6 @ 9:15 AM |
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Jankia
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SOC- Aren't we essentially saying the very same thing?? Yes but as we see,what is said isnt understood by some of those that refuse to understand it or are unaware of the metaphorical use in its meaning.
What is so hard to understand about... those of us that do hear Gods voice through the voice of not only each other but by obeying our own conscience and spending time alone with God through prayer. that again we have to bear through someones reference to hearing Gods voice as being some sort of mental issue that needs professional care.
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| Aug 6 @ 9:24 AM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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Gotcha.
Thanks Jankia. (I'm glad we don't have a problem there.  )
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| Aug 6 @ 9:29 AM |
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Banned_Knots
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How does one know if its God's voice, a devils voice or psychedelic illusions
Many peoples, religions and belief systems claim to hear voices so who is fooling who here?
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| Aug 6 @ 9:34 AM |
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iam01
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Yes but as we see,what is said isnt understood by some of those that refuse to understand it or are unaware of the metaphorical use in its meaning.
What metaphor? If God's voice is a metaphor then its just a concept in your head. Not an actual voice from an actual god. Anyone can say then that they hear the voice of Thomas Jefferson when in Washington or hear Elvis and then say Elvis lives and they actually existed. God's voice as a hallucination is a mental illness. The metaphor is just a poetic expression. So which is it?
Yes but as we see,what is said isnt understood by some of those that refuse to understand it or are unaware of the metaphorical use in its meaning. Again with the metaphor. SOC heard actual voices in his head. Did you? Yes, hearing actual voices is a hallucination and does require professional attention. SOC had brain trauma and refuses to reveal what particular lobes were damaged and whether doctors treated him for his brain damage. Usually its the temporal lobes that will cause hallucinations, psychotic experiences.
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| Aug 6 @ 10:00 AM |
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sail_dancer
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SOC,
Is it your opinion then that throughout the Bible are littered hallucinations from mentally ill individuals? My opinion is that the bible is a collection of Jewish history and fables designed to teach the difference between "right" and "wrong".
Many times you have spoken highly of the teachings of Jesus Christ. I did not think that had you been there you would have told Him that In the Jesus story, Jesus defines the two extremes as "father" and "satan" to describe mans conscience. The same way that Carlo Collodi used Jiminy Cricket and the devil to represent mans conscience in his book "Pinocchio: Tale of a Puppet". How many people today use "Jiminy Cricket" to relate to man's conscience?
If you read the passage you provided using the following assumptions a different message is found:
1, Since Jesus said that heaven is his father's kingdom and can be found within you. His reference to heaven is to your mind.
2. Jesus uses his references to "his father" the same way Carlo Collodi used "Jiminy Cricket" ..... that is to reference man's conscience.
3. Jesus' definition of "prayer" is actually what nonchristians would consider meditation.
Actually Jesus' definition of prayer in the passage you quoted says that the christian idea of prayer is "hypocritical".
Where do you draw the line of how much of what He has taught is the guidance of a wise person? When his words are analyzed and correctly interpreted ...... no line is necessary.
And how much of what He taught are words of a deranged lunatic? None.
Christian dogma's interpretation of what Jesus said are the results of a deranged group of lunatics.
Unlike hammertime, you believe He walked the Earth don't you? I never said that. What I did say was that I follow the words and teachings of the Master Jesus. Whether Jesus actually walked this earth or is mythical does not effect my beliefs one iota.
Are you hoping to discount even His teachings now too? Never! But I do discount christian dogma's take on his message.
Could it be that inwardly you are just jealous? Jealousy is not part of my makeup!
It is however an important part of your desert god's makeup.
What does that say about the god you chose to worship?
Peace
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| Aug 6 @ 10:04 AM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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"How does one know if its God's voice, a devils voice or psychedelic illusions" -BK
John 10:25--"Jesus answered, 'I did tell you, but you do not believe. The miracles I do in my Father's name speak for me, 26--but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27--My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.' "
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| Aug 6 @ 10:04 AM |
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iam01
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SOC what lobes were damaged on you?
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| Aug 6 @ 10:09 AM |
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Banned_Knots
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SC
"Jesus answered, 'I did tell you, but you do not believe. The miracles I do in my Father's name speak for me, 26--but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27--My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.' "
This has no reference to hearing voices from the head let alone god's voice.
It is a reference to Jesus making a statement about his sheep listening to him. It is interesting that he was a shepherd. I hope his sheep were dipped in sheeps dip to get the lice off them.
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| Aug 6 @ 10:10 AM |
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sail_dancer
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Thanks Jankia. (I'm glad we don't have a problem there.) I thought that Jankia attributes the voice of god to things others may say or what normal people would consider "conscience".
It seems that SOC's belief that he actually spoke and had a conversation with god in which they made a personal covenant, is not consistent with Jankia's concept of "hearing god's voice".
Or is SOC now admitting that his conversation with god was really just his conscience working?
Peace
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| Aug 6 @ 10:14 AM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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1John 4:2-- "This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3--but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world."
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| Aug 6 @ 10:17 AM |
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iam01
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SOC
Deborah, yes, it is a fact that I received brain damage as a result of a car accident.
What lobes were damaged? Don't you know? It may be a big reason why you hear voices.
You also said you had no interest in learning about Temporal Lobe Epilepsy. Is there a reason you want to avoid that? Did the doctors mention the temporal lobes? Is that what you're hiding?
[Edited on 8/6/2009 10:25 AM]
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