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SweetNapaGuy
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Without diverging into atheist discussions (and I think we all know whom I am directing that at)...
There are eight different religions out there with adherents numbering 100 million or more. Leaving out the atheists, that leaves seven.
Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Chinese traditional religion (a combined form of Taoism, Confucianism, ancestor worship, folk practices, and so on), Buddhism, primal/indigenous (shamanism, true paganism, and other native religions for various tribes throughout the world), and African Traditional & Diasporic (distinct from the previous by its complexity).
And that's even without including all the dribs and drabs.
So, without referring to the "circular logic" of religious texts, why is your religion the one true religion?
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| Aug 17 @ 6:55 PM |
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southernlass
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Hmm. That's a very valid, well phrased question, Napa.
For me, it's not about my "religion" persay...
It's about who He is, or who GOD, as I perceive of Him, is.
For me, the proof that He's the one true God, is because I've sensed Him since I was young enough to have awareness of life, of "me," of the world around me. I "felt" Him early on..
I know that can be laughed at, but without citing religious texts or attempting to prove something, which to me isn't necessary based upon the question -- He's more real than any other god or source because He's potent, powerful, dominant, and simply IS and has always BEEN.
I'm not sure if I'm explaining it well enough --
I believe there are other beings, sources of life, principalities and powers out there in the universe, perhaps even on other dimensions of thought/awareness. Spiritually speaking, I don't think we can see all of these but just because we can't see them, I think they still exist regardless. God is like this as well, but He is more real because He is good, He is the orchestrator of all; everything begins and ends with Him. He is simply numero uno, in my opinion. His power is greater than any other's.
No one has actual seeing eye proof, to my knowledge, short of their own belief/testimony and perhaps the holy book of that belief.
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| Aug 17 @ 6:59 PM |
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uab_5
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It's the one true religion for me.
Why?
Mom was a United Methodist, and the beliefs of humble servitute and making this world a better place fit my mold necessary for my perpetual recovery.
Frankly, I don't give a damn about eternal salvation because this is the only life I know.
If I can sleep well each nigh knowing I've done my best to make my fellows life easier, is all the gratification I need.
As far as Heaven is concern, I don't want to apostatate because I'm gunning for a semi-private room in Heaven so my fiancee and I can...pray...yet that's it...pray all eternity long! 
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| Aug 17 @ 7:20 PM |
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iam01
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Except for the Abrahmic religions, other religions don't murder one another as proof of their beliefs are correct and to spread them. At least, not on the grand scale of dogmas of death. Of the three desert dogma, Christianity and Islam are known for their forceful imposition on the world around them. By shear numbers they find their proof. The Inquisitions, Crusades, Witch burnings, Ghettos, Blood Libels, and Holocaust. Might is right.
Why do people abuse one drug over another? Many alcoholics would never consider heroin. Others swear crack is the best. Others are addicted to sex or gambling. Others choose Ecstasy. Others just smoke pot. They all base this on their subjective experiences of how it makes them feel. The way they describe it is not very different than how religious people describe their religion. Yes, there are fundamental difference between abusing a substance as opposed to a religion but both are very addictive, involve codependent relationships, share psychotic experiences, both have their obsessions and compulsions and both have similar motivations for antisocial behavior.
So what makes one god real and others false? Where is the proof any of them are real in the sense of its objective reality? We never see it.
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| Aug 17 @ 7:30 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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I knew this should have been a blog. Then I could have blocked the disruptive influences...
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| Aug 17 @ 7:32 PM |
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uab_5
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S'all good, SNG.
Let them yap!
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| Aug 17 @ 11:40 PM |
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ColdinWisconsin
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My daddy always said..."If you want the perfect religion, create your own. Granted, you'll be the only member, but..it will be perfect...for you."
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| Aug 18 @ 6:09 AM |
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CPUfan
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The universe is God...  It's everything, more than anyone could ever wish for.
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| Aug 18 @ 8:06 AM |
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iam01
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Its only been 12 hours but so far no one has come up with proof or even any valid reasons their religion is the true one and all the others are not. Perhaps we can try a pseudoproof as a template?
#1 My God appeared to thousands of people at the same time and told us She is the Mother of the universe. The event is record in the history books as historical fact. She makes an appearance every ten years. She said the god that appeared to Moses was her drunken and dead beat husband and the reason he couldn't show his face to Moses was because he had a black eye and was just too embarrassed to show his face.
#2 The ancient texts written 4000 years ago describes the cosmology of universe with almost exact accuracy. It refers to the cosmic egg birthed from Her womb we refer to today as the singularity. It refers to a force that is equal to the weight (mass) in the multitude of movement light times itself. What we know today as E = MC**2. It then describes Her creating woman using the instructions equivalent to 23 books. We know today is 23 chromosomes. The ancient texts could not have had this information unless She told the ancients writers Herself. It proves such knowledge was known before it was discovered thousands of years later.
#3 No prayers are necessary. She knows our needs and desires just by us thinking about them. She knows our minds and what's in our hearts. Those who believe in her never get sick and if are injured heal right away. Those that have lost limbs grow new ones. Those that have lost an eye grow new ones. This all happens without asking because She loves us can cares for us.
#4 Our god never told us to hurt anyone else even if they didn't worship Her. She felt it was always best to love our enemies because eventually our love would overcome their hate.
Oh well...a bit corny but CW's daddy does have a good point.
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| Aug 18 @ 8:13 AM |
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yashaenka
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Chinese traditional religion (a combined form of Taoism, Confucianism, ancestor worship, folk practices, and so on), Buddhism
I read the Wiki page you got this from and it is in error. Read the Religion in China page for clarification. As far as Taoism there are many differing forms of it. Tao Chia [philosophical the oldest] is not a religion. Tao Chiao is a religion that started to offset the influence of Chan[ Chinese Buddhism in 1AD]
Chan [Chinese Buddhism] has no God(s) either and is not a religion. It was built upon Tao Chia [Taoism] and Confucianism at it's core than Chinese translated and interpreted variations of the Mahayana Buddhist Sutra were used to wrap around the two core living philosophies to form a religion sans any God(s).
Confucianism has to do with right living and nothing to do with religion.
As far as folk lore religion [a poor term] Ancestral worship is really respect and honoring the dead.
Hinduism is not a religion either it is much more than a religion in any case you would be speaking of Gods in the plural.
When you are going to try and classify religions remember Wiki is a poor source as most of it is written by westerners....  No God(s) no religion..
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| Aug 18 @ 10:29 AM |
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Thor1960303
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why is your religion the one true religion?
I think for each individual, it's all about what concept of God is more akin to what you feel and think about yourself. It's also a way to project certain qualities you may feel you lack onto your worship figure. Religion is an emotional experience and is used by believers to keep their lives in order and give them a sense of well being and being right with the world. Some are more prone than others to be attracted to it and find characteristics that they feel are desirable and project them onto their object of worship. Such as:
He's more real than any other god or source because He's potent, powerful, dominant, and simply IS and has always BEEN.
Potent, powerful and dominant. These are all characteristics that SL feels are attractive and add on the "always been" part and there is no need for questioning or worry. The old celestial father figure is the attractive icon behind the anthropomorphization of the universe and always has been.
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| Aug 18 @ 10:41 AM |
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yashaenka
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Paste this into Google and download a copy of this:The Nature Of Consciousness by Alan Watts A very interesting read.. 
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| Aug 18 @ 10:50 AM |
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Bj864
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Since I had a NDE, to me that was all the proof I will ever need.
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| Aug 18 @ 11:04 AM |
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yashaenka
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A NDE affects the brain in very mysterious ways, during a NDE the brain is NOT operating on all cylinders and in fact it subjects you too many hallucinations especially if you experience a Oxymoron a diminished amount of oxygen to the brain.
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| Aug 18 @ 11:15 AM |
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Jankia
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You asked a completely different question in your thread then you did in your heading Napa so you really cant have the same answer for both.
Proof that one god is more real than every other god? Of course everyone that doesnt have proof wants proof,but its not something you can ask another person for.You have to first want to find it for yourself through personal prayer and meditation.
Bible study and church proves you can read and share life socially with like minded people.
The positive and the negative results of personal prayer proves the God you prayed to is more real than the God you didnt.
why is your religion the one true religion? I dont have a religion,I share one with true religious people.
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| Aug 18 @ 11:19 AM |
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yashaenka
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I dont have a religion,I share one with true religious people OXYMORON ALERT Say what?
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| Aug 18 @ 11:23 AM |
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iam01
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Michael Persinger has reproduced many NDE's in the lab that prove the Temporal Lobes and other lobes are responsible. NDE is cause by being near death where physiology is extremely stressed from oxygen deprivation or even too much oxygen which is toxic to brain cells. If the person recovers, the mind, looking back, attempts to make sense of experience by the usual confabulations.
If dysfunctional aberrations of brain functioning are proof of God then Alice in Wonderland is proof of a 6ft tall bunny.
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| Aug 18 @ 11:40 AM |
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Jankia
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OXYMORON ALERT Say what? Christianity isnt an experience as ones own,its a shared experience with respectfull people,its not my religion but anyones that chooses to respect other people in Gods name.
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| Aug 18 @ 11:52 AM |
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yashaenka
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There are many forms of Religions even within Religions and for the Protestant there are over 9,000 different churches with different ideas and mindset. There simply is no one Christian religion that you can cite and there is no one bible you can cite as the original one least of all since there is no author.
God is a generic linguistic term that applies to some mystical entity and even in English Allah, Yahweh means some unknown mystical entity.
The terms used are but Conceptual there is no way to show it as a truism with any fact because any Conceptual God only pertains to after death...
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| Aug 20 @ 8:21 PM |
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Bj864
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To those of you who reduce a NDE to a brain malfunction; if you ever have one, you will never say that again.
I can agree that the brain may be shutting down, but I do not agree that the experience was just from that. It is beyond anything the brain is capable of.
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