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yashaenka

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"Egypt, the primeval seat of learning, was the high seat of Sun adoration. The Sphinx, with the face to the east, represents Harmmachus, young Horus, or the rising Sun. The orb is Osiris, the ruling god of day. In its descent it is the dying deity, going below to the land of Shades; but only to be resurrected as the victorious Horus, piercing the head of the dragon of darkness." James Bonwick, Irish Druids & Old Irish Religions
The Egyptian sun god Horus, who predated the Christ character by thousands of years, shares the following in common with Jesus:
Horus was born of the virgin Isis-Meri on December 25th in a cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men.
His earthly father was named "Seb" ("Joseph"). Seb is also known as "Geb": "As Horus the Elder he...was believed to be the son of Geb and Nut." Lewis Spence, Ancient Egyptian Myths and Legends, 84.
He was of royal descent.
At age 12, he was a child teacher in the Temple, and at 30, he was baptized, having disappeared for 18 years.
Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana (Jordan) by "Anup the Baptizer" ("John the Baptist"), who was decapitated.
He had 12 disciples, two of whom were his "witnesses" and were named "Anup" and "Aan" (the two "Johns").
He performed miracles, exorcised demons and raised El-Azarus ("El-Osiris"), from the dead.
Horus walked on water.
His personal epithet was "Iusa," the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah," the "Father." He was thus called "Holy Child."
He delivered a "Sermon on the Mount" and his followers recounted the "Sayings of Iusa."
Horus was transfigured on the Mount.
He was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and resurrected.
He was also the "Way, the Truth, the Light," "Messiah," "God's Anointed Son," the "Son of Man," the "Good Shepherd," the "Lamb of God," the "Word made flesh," the "Word of Truth," etc.
He was "the Fisher" and was associated with the Fish ("Ichthys"), Lamb and Lion. He came to fulfill the Law.
Horus was called "the KRST," or "Anointed One."
Like Jesus, "Horus was supposed to reign one thousand years."
Furthermore, inscribed about 3,500 years ago on the walls of the Temple at Luxor were images of the Annunciation, Immaculate Conception, Birth and Adoration of Horus, with Thoth announcing to the Virgin Isis that she will conceive Horus; with Kneph, the "Holy Ghost," impregnating the virgin; and with the infant being attended by three kings, or magi, bearing gifts. In addition, in the catacombs at Rome are pictures of the baby Horus being held by the virgin mother Isis--the original "Madonna and Child."
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| Aug 21 @ 11:24 AM |
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southernlass

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I don't understand why you refuse to link to your sources.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar/esp_biblianazar_38.htm
This one, above, is "The Christ Conspiracy, the greatest story ever told."
The title speaks for itself. Your point is obvious -- as is your agenda.
Horus of Egypt is not Jesus Christ. There is no substitute, regardless of the claimed similarities.
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| Aug 21 @ 4:06 PM |
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beckyiv42000

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I don't understand why you refuse to link to your sources.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar/esp_biblianazar_38.htm
This one, above, is "The Christ Conspiracy, the greatest story ever told."
The title speaks for itself. Your point is obvious -- as is your agenda.
Horus of Egypt is not Jesus Christ. There is no substitute, regardless of the claimed similarities. -SL
If would be nice if you used CORRECT titles also the CORRECT title from the link is below
The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold
What's the shocking truth behind the real story of Jesus Christ? And I see NO where that he was saying Horus was Jesus.. just stating the commonality of certain aspects of their tales /stories .. which obviously disturbs you to the core... and instead of either ignoring it or maybe reading it and trying to see how, yes they are similar... you try twist the post to make it as tho someone was persecuting you... how sad
why so aggressive??? This is what I was talking about.. he was sharing information which some of us found interesting yet you had to rant on.. yet again Yet you rage when someone challenges a post about Christianity
Thank you Yash for the post.. 
edited to add: Actually Most of the challenging posts that rile some of those who profess to be Christians are not about the Essence of Christianity but how the Teachings of The Christ are carried out or not by those professing to be followers of The Christ and how they are used to manipulate and control others thus invalidating the true teachings and making those who do that hypocrites...
[Edited on 8/21/2009 4:12 PM]
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| Aug 21 @ 4:40 PM |
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Gallows_Humor

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the closest I could come to saying BS in Hieroglyphics
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| Aug 21 @ 4:57 PM |
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iglooo101

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Similar? horus one of the primary symbols of Zoroastrianism Note that in the past 1 religion used to borrow from another religion..things like: symbols and gods e.g isis
Isis She was the Egyptian goddess of the earth. Her worship entailed elaborate and exotic rituals.
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| Aug 21 @ 5:38 PM |
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beckyiv42000

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the Ascension of Christ Russian c1800's all three rising in the sky arms/wngs outstretched with a a halo or sun behind them
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| Aug 21 @ 5:43 PM |
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beckyiv42000

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Buddha Jesus Christ
the images are MORE than similar both depicting the great teachers in tehesame pose ... and those are age old representations
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| Aug 21 @ 7:11 PM |
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Thor1960303

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Horus of Egypt is not Jesus Christ. There is no substitute, regardless of the claimed similarities. Ah, but don't you see, Yash? Satan knew ahead of time that Jesus was coming so he created these "counterfiets" to convince the reprobate minds ( that's critical thinking minds to you and me) that it's all one in the same.
Damn, where's Ana when you need him, talking about the Illuminati and their conspiracy to debunk Jesus.
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| Aug 21 @ 8:32 PM |
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yashaenka

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AH SL your attempts at critical thinking must leave you feeling very much alone. Horus of Egypt entered into google will provide all the links you wish.
I made no statement about it I simply offered it as information which everyone is free to accept or reject it may also encourage some to look deeper into this.
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| Aug 21 @ 8:49 PM |
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sail_dancer

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Even the christian bible says that their god is the god of Egypt: Hosea 13 (King James Version)
4Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me. Peace
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| Aug 21 @ 9:28 PM |
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Angel54214

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No egyptian god of molten images through craftmanship brought the Israelites out of Egypt...it was the one and only "living God". Their molten image gods could not save them from their drought, famine, disease and locusts. Nor change the sea of blood back to purified water. The molten images could not save them from the windy dust storms or the rains that poured down hard from heaven that flooded and destroyed their crops....not one...not even the notorious Horus, which means "Falcon". Horus is pronounced (Haru) in egyptian language.
[Edited on 8/21/2009 10:28 PM]
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| Aug 21 @ 10:57 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy

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Just an interjection:
December 25th wasn't the original date to celebrate Jesus's birthday. Originally, people DIDN'T CARE when Jesus was born. What date mattered was when he died.
However, it appears his birthdate would have been somewhere mid-August to mid-October. The switch to December 25th was intentional, to get the pagans to stop worshiping their local deities and switch to worshiping Jesus.
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| Aug 21 @ 11:02 PM |
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southernlass

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Whatever works, Napa.
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| Aug 21 @ 11:16 PM |
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Angel54214

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Napa...I know you are correct, for also to add is the Greek pagans even adopted the Horus falcon god and even the egyptian goddess Hathor.
Horus was adopted as many gods through the egyptian pantheon cults as well as many Pharaohs and Kings were also called Horus. before 3000 BCE there was an upper and a lower egypt. Horus was the sky god that ruled the lower and Khonsu the Hawk of upper egypt. These gods changed through the dynasties; they would dismenber and kill each other off and reborn through a fertility goddess and become other gods.
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| Aug 22 @ 10:12 AM |
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iam01

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Christianity adopted the pigeon as the holy spirit. Not quite the majestic bird as the falcon. Pigeons are known for being scavengers, carrying diseases and crapping on statues and cars parked under trees. I guess in the old days, parked asses would get pelted instead. Luckily, falcons are their natural predators and are often used to control the pigeon population.
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| Aug 22 @ 10:24 AM |
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iam01

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Do delusional Christians and Pagans know why Dec 25 is their date and why it fits in so well with Christianity? Hint: Its all about astronomical events and their astrological symbolism.
Extra credit, essay answer: What astrological events and symbols are associated with the Jews and Christians? Hint: Ram's horn, fish, water.
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| Aug 22 @ 1:23 PM |
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kattsmeow

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December 25th wasn't the original date to celebrate Jesus's birthday. Originally, people DIDN'T CARE when Jesus was born. What date mattered was when he died.
Your right. It is proven history of when the census was taken too.
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| Aug 22 @ 3:46 PM |
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Angel54214

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The Egyptian sun god Horus, who predated the Christ character by thousands of years, shares the following in common with Jesus: In egyptian writings and mythology, Horus was the "sky god". Ra was the "sun god".
Horus was born of the virgin Isis-Meri on December 25th in a cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men. In the stories of egyptian mythology, Horus' mother (Isis) was not a virgin...she was married to Osiris and Horus was miraculously conceived in a swamp.
In the egyptian calendar, the month Kikellia (coptic Khoiak) which is November in our calendar has been found a one time Horus celebration. The egyptian calendar was designed and based on the floods along with the rising and falling of the Nile banks. The egyptian calendar consisted of festival celebrations according to the festival list in the Ramesses III temple Medinet Habu and Thutmose III at the temple of Mut, Karnak.
The egyptian calendar consisted of 12 months/360 days. During the "New Kingdom" 5 days were added to the full calendar along with the festivals making the full year 365 days:
birthday of Osiris birthday of Horus birthday of Seth birthday of Isis birthday of Nephthys
To try and correlate the egyptian calendar with the greek julian calendar conspires a broken clock twice a day. LOL
The gospels and even the writings of historians and Rabbis do not coraspond a the date Dec. 25th to Jesus' birth. This comes from the Greeks in Italy.
The name "Meri" comes from the egyptian name Mr'ee meaning "beloved". This was was a title added to Isis' name...as to being Isis the beloved.
There is no egyptian scroll or wall writing that exists stating Horus' birth was announced by a star in the east...LOL. Massey, who says "the Star in the East that arose to announce the birth of the babe (Jesus) was Orion, which is therefore called the star of Horus and That was once the star of the three kings; for the 'three kings' is still a name of three stars in Orion's belt". Orion is a constalation, not a one star. There are 3 stars that make up the Orion belt. There is in fact no pre-writings of the 19th century that even hints that the three stars of Orion's belt are the 3 wise men/kings. The bible does not even state the number of wise men/kings that arrived to Bethlehem after the birth of Jesus. It has been assumed to be 3 due to the 3 gifts that were given.
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| Aug 22 @ 4:27 PM |
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Angel54214

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His earthly father was named "Seb" ("Joseph"). Seb is also known as "Geb": "As Horus the Elder he...was believed to be the son of Geb and Nut." Lewis Spence, Ancient Egyptian Myths and Legends, 84. Seb/Geb was Osiris’ father, not Horus’. Osiris was the egyptian god of the underworld and Seb/Geb was the earth god. There is no parallel to Seb/Geb to either Joseph in the O.T. or the new.
He was of royal descent Horus by "royal descent" in the egyptian mythology, he was the sky god...the creator himself. Jesus' "royal descent" was in the flesh, from the King David lineage.
At age 12, he was a child teacher in the Temple, and at 30, he was baptized, having disappeared for 18 years. There is no egyptian scroll writing that Horus taught in a temple. Their priests taught in their temples. Horus was not human...he was a mythical god to be worshipped and that was bestowed upon the Pharaohs and Kings in their ruling powers. Horus never wrote any writings...LOL.
Jesus did not "disappear" in his 18 years. The bible states he lived in Bethlehem and was humble, waxed strong and was a carpenter.
Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana (Jordan) by "Anup the Baptizer" ("John the Baptist"), who was decapitated. There is no "Anup the Baptizer" in any of the egyptian scroll writings. Again...no egyptian writing tells that Horus was baptized.
He had 12 disciples, two of whom were his "witnesses" and were named "Anup" and "Aan" (the two "Johns"). There is no egyptian scroll writing that Horus had 12 disciples. There is egyptian writings that he had 4 main followers that were called "Heru-Shemsu". Also there is a writing that states he did have a group of followers called mesnui", which means blacksmiths, which it states they joined him in battle. There is no one by the names of Anup and Aan in those writings.
He performed miracles, exorcised demons and raised El-Azarus ("El-Osiris"), from the dead. Egyptian writings do state Horus performed miracles, but nothing written that he exorcised demons or even raised the so called El-Azarus/El-Osiris from the dead. There is no El-Azarus in egyptian writings nor any writing of this name in connection to El-Osiris...this was moderately brought forward by the critic writers to connect Osiris to the biblical Lazarus writings...who was raised from the dead by Jesus.
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| Aug 22 @ 5:01 PM |
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Angel54214

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Horus walked on water. There is no egyptian writing that stated Horus walked on water...he was the sky god, not the water goddess...LOL.
His personal epithet was "Iusa," the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah," the "Father." He was thus called "Holy Child." The name "Iusa" comes from the greek name "Iesous" in referrence to Jesus name. There is no egyptian writing that even uses the word or name "Iusa". Nor was Horus ever referred to as the ever-becoming or the holy child.
He delivered a "Sermon on the Mount" and his followers recounted the "Sayings of Iusa." Horus never delivered a sermon. Even the Pharaohs and Kings that were called Horus didn't deliver sermons anywhere in egypt. Only the egyptian priests did. And again...there is no egyptian writings that list a word or name "Iusa".
Horus was transfigured on the Mount. There is no egyptian text writing that states Horus was transfigured or even on a Mount. Horus was the main god...the sky god...the creator and was not human. When no new egyptian stories were written, Horus went to the underworld and there he...it, whatever remained.
He was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and resurrected. I'm trying hard not to laugh here...But, there is only one old egyptian text of the New Kingdom that states Horus' death as being cut up and his pieces were thrown in the river, which later his pieces were fished out by a crocodile by a request of his mother Isis.
He was also the "Way, the Truth, the Light," "Messiah," "God's Anointed Son," the "Son of Man," the "Good Shepherd," the "Lamb of God," the "Word made flesh," the "Word of Truth," etc. None of the above titles have ever been mentioned in any egyptian writings. The egyptian writings do tell us Horus was: Great God Chief of the Powers Master of Heaven Avenger of His Father
He was "the Fisher" and was associated with the Fish ("Ichthys"), Lamb and Lion. LOL...there's no egyptian writings Horus was the fisher or even had any association with a lamb or lion.
He came to fulfill the Law. What egyptian law was supposively Horus came to fulfill??
Horus was called "the KRST," or "Anointed One." KRST in egyptian means "burial". It's not a title nor means Anointed One...apples and oranges here. LOL.
Like Jesus, "Horus was supposed to reign one thousand years." No mention of this revelation in any egyptian writings let alone in conjunction to Horus. Horus existed since the 2nd dynasty and ended at the 23rd dynasty. I'd say he outlived the reign given to him. Give credit to where credit is due!
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