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edthepoet
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I am a Christian, a spiritual one
I so dislike formal Church thinking because they generally believe they have all the answers and never once ask the people what they think.
There's no bigger turn off to Jesus teachings then a holy-roller Christian.
Jesus wasn't a religion, he was a Jew and he die so.
I get sick to my stomach when I hear the holy-rollers damning everyone with their judgmental mindset, telling people they are going to hell, preaching as they are superior because they are a better parrot with bible verses.
I actually had so called fellow Christians say, Your not of the same yoke because I don't go to Church.
I could go one by one with different religions who spout the word of God,yet, they get the grasp on what Jesus teaching are all about.
For example: How can the Catholic church dare say they believe in Christ when they have killed millions in the name of God, move rapist from one church to another, Have statues equal to the size of Jesus in that very same church knowing full well the Bible says not too.
Leaving out books that belong in the Bible. Who are they edit God inspiring words.
Casting stones at non-believers isn't part of Jesus teachings, we are suppose to shine his glorious light by example and with true intentions.
I am so disgusted with the Holy-rollers Christians way of thinking, I now pray for them to return to Jesus teachings in a way that glorify Him.
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| Sep 12 @ 2:43 AM |
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Angel54214
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| Sep 12 @ 2:46 AM |
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MrPaul
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In my opinion the most important relationship one can have is a personal relationship with Christ.....Thats not a building group or Church even though in many cases the right church can help you get where you need to be, encourage you and uplift you.    casting stones at non-believers isn't part of Jesus teachings, we are suppose to shine his glorious light by example and with true intentions. Ed so true so many can talk the talk , but few can walk the walk  I believe you are one of the few  If all Christians could just be like the saying below and humble them selfs we would have a blessed brotherhood  When I say "I am a Christian"
by Carol Wimmer
When I say..."I am a Christian"
I'm not shouting "I am saved"
I'm whispering "I get lost!"
"That is why I chose this way."
When I say..."I am a Christian"
don't speak of this with pride.
I'm confessing that I stumble
and need someone to be my guide.
When I say..."I am a Christian"
I'm not trying to be strong.
I'm professing that I'm weak
and pray for strength to carry on.
When I say..."I am a Christian"
I'm not bragging of success.
I'm admitting I have failed
and cannot ever pay the debt.
When I say..."I am a Christian"
I'm not claiming to be perfect,
my flaws are too visible
but God believes I'm worth it.
When I say..."I am a Christian"
I still feel the sting of pain
I have my share of heartaches
which is why I seek His name.
When I say..."I am a Christian"
I do not wish to judge.
I have no authority.
I only know I'm loved.
[Edited on 9/12/2009 3:00 AM]
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| Sep 12 @ 2:50 AM |
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Angel54214
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Mr. Paul...that is so awsome!! 
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| Sep 12 @ 2:57 AM |
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MrPaul
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 A Angel  
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| Sep 12 @ 2:58 AM |
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edthepoet
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In my mind, a lot of Christians over complicate Jesus teachings as they going into battle with verses in hand, rather then simply shine His light by example and showing why His teachings allow us to have a more enjoyable life here and in heaven.
My friend wife is such a holy-roller, she forever saying she wanting to die now so she can arrive in heaven sooner.
How dumb is that, like she not going to die.
Besides, she has a retarded son and two other kids who need her guidance, to me that's being selfish.
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| Sep 12 @ 3:04 AM |
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edthepoet
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Ok, Paul, the saying you posted captures the essence of my thread in a graceful and humble way.
There's nothing in that saying that's complicated, yet, the powers of those words reverberate His teachings masterfully. Ty
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| Sep 12 @ 7:19 AM |
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Deborah551
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When I say "I am a Christian"
by Carol Wimmer How many times are you going to post that stupid poem, MP? You are sick of Iam posting the same comments over and over and you do it yourself. You should have Pm'd it. 
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| Sep 12 @ 8:02 AM |
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yashaenka
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Every person is spiritual unto themselves in their own way regardless of their belief system.
Some of us on here who are non Christian speak out against their fundamentalist ideals that most of them spout on about from what they learned at some institution called a church..
To me all institutions have an axe to grind they may start out well but sooner or later their in the business of justifying and preserving their institution.
I do not like the fact that some people take the bible literally as the word of God when it was written and translated by men and the version we have today is not the original.
But if you wish to use it as a guideline for the positives that were contributed to Jesus as a way to live your life I have no quarrel with that.
I thought what you posted was rather refreshing
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| Sep 12 @ 10:17 AM |
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iam01
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I am a Christian, a spiritual one Finding it necessary to qualify what kind of Christian you are denotes the need to separate one's self from the ridiculous variations of those who call themselves Christian, especially the holy rollers. The thing is, they too think they are spiritual. They are, in fact, anti-spiritual because their vampirish existence is to suck life out of a person. You may be spiritual but in spite of Christianity, not because of it.
Jesus wasn't a religion, he was a Jew and he die so. Well, Judaism is a religion. At the time of Jesus, there was no Christianity per se but the religion did form because of this early cult. At the time there are many different kinds of Christianities forming. That formation got codified centuries later. In any case, Christianity is a religion. Jesus was a mythical man-god figure based on earlier and very similar templates from Egypt, Rome, and Greece.
I could go one by one with different religions who spout the word of God,yet, they get the grasp on what Jesus teaching are all about. Every Christian thinks they know what Jesus taught so what explains the thousands of different kinds of denominations? The problem is deep. No one really knows what Jesus specifically taught because there were no eye witnesses who wrote anything down. All that is written is hearsay. Also, we know there were stories of Jesus that were pure fabrications. One fabrication is "He who is without sin cast the first stone". That whole story of the adulterer was made up by later copyists That story does not appear in the earlier manuscripts.
As for the manuscripts. There are no originals. They were long gone over a thousand years ago. Not only there no originals but no copies of the originals. There aren't even copies of the copies of the originals. You're looking at over a century of gaps.
For example: How can the Catholic church dare say they believe in Christ when they have killed millions in the name of God, move rapist from one church to another, Have statues equal to the size of Jesus in that very same church knowing full well the Bible says not too. And the Catholic church is still killing people but using an indirect method. Uneducated and impoverished Africans are dying by the millions each year because the Catholic church forbids the use of condoms. They lie to these people telling them the HIV virus can penetrate latex. We know thats not true.
The Southern Baptist Convention is also murdering people by proxy from their dope shows at disaster sites and war zones in their proselytizing efforts.
When asked in this report if his organization's activities can lead to people dying, Todd Nettleton, Director of Media Development for The Voice of the Martyrs, responds, "Our activities can lead to people dying, and we understand that...but, the reality is an eternity with Christ in heaven is so far better than an eternity in hell that it is a good deal. It's a good decision, even if it results in physical punishment here on earth." To watch the video, go to the 2:00 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHesVH-MUEc
Its obvious there are fanatical Christians who are so delusional, demented, and obsessed that their actions cause death to others just for the excuse to brainwashed others. Maybe we can call them holy rollers. I call them morons. It should be no surprise there are R&S Christians who defend the above activities by making all sorts of excuses for converting people at all costs.
[Edited on 9/12/2009 10:19 AM]
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| Sep 12 @ 10:19 AM |
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edthepoet
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Yash, I totally agree with what you wrote here:
Every person is spiritual unto themselves in their own way regardless of their belief system.
How can anyone who believes in God say this statement isn't true, hence our greatest gift called "freewill"
I will give the churches credit in helping keeping Jesus name alive and for the good they have done over the years, this can't be argue.
It's human nature to be control freaks, how else could we survive and invent things.
Do we takes things too far, hell yes.
Atomic energy has a positive place in our life, yet, our human nature which also contains a dark side would alsothink to use this powerful energy as a weapon as well.
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alivenwell351
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Not trying to go political here, but I find it strange that such a high % of the population claim to be christians, yet Obama, who during the campaign repeatedly promised to restore federal funding for abortions (including barbaric partial birth abortions), was handily elected...
And here all this time I've been thinking that eliminating legalized abortion was a REAL big deal to christians. And yeah, I'm well aware there were many other issues that matter to folks, but.....
Looks like about the only thing the Harris poll conclusively proves is what so many already know...there are a lot of phonies out there talking the christian talk, but they aint doing a whole lot of walking it...
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| Sep 12 @ 11:54 AM |
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edthepoet
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Hi alive, In His speech the other day, he said that there's no provision in the health-care plan that uses tax dollars for abortion.
Now, I am not sure how your comment relates to what the thread is about.
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| Sep 12 @ 1:14 PM |
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MrPaul
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Every person is spiritual unto themselves in their own way regardless of their belief system. Yasha Deb. I am sorry you find me posting in here to be offense I am not being nasty nor am I shoving my views down anyone's throat. May I kindly suggest that if you see my name on the post that you just slide on by it as making peace and getting along with others seems to offend you
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| Sep 12 @ 1:52 PM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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Hey Deb....perhaps you missed the post from Angel. I kinda get the feeling that she enjoyed it.
What's the big deal?
Skim over it. 
Avert your eyes from the screen.
By-pass it.
Will doing such a thing totally screw-up your computer?
(Or is it that you just like complaining.)
Maybe you'd like to take a few of your un-Holy brothers to some scuzball secular site where you won't be confronted with anything nice?
Thank you MrPaul.
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| Sep 12 @ 1:55 PM |
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Deborah551
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Deb. I am sorry you find me posting in here to be offense I don't find you offensive MrPaul. But, I find that poem offensive. But you must really like it since you post it so often.
May I kindly suggest that if you see my name on the post that you just slide on by it as making peace and getting along with others seems to offend you You can do the same for me if I offend you, Okay?
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| Sep 12 @ 1:57 PM |
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BandTMom
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I'm wondering why you find it offensive, Deb? it's not a put down but a celebration of what they believe. I have Christians reading my "Glimpse of the Day" and although it is based in Buddhism, I have yet had someone offended by them even though some of them are repeats. 
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| Sep 12 @ 1:59 PM |
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Deborah551
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Hey Deb....perhaps you missed the post from Angel. I kinda get the feeling that she enjoyed it.
What's the big deal? What the heck does Angels post have to do with anything, Soc? And yes, I did see it. What's your point, or don't you have one?
Maybe you'd like to take a few of your un-Holy brothers to some scuzball secular site where you won't be confronted with anything nice? I heard the Wizard of Oz in coming to your town and he's handing out brains today, Soc, Better get there early before he runs out! And another thing, Soc, I know exactly why you posted those 2 posts after Angels.
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| Sep 12 @ 2:20 PM |
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Angel54214
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Huh??? I've only posted 2 posts here before this one! What's the problem with them???
All I did was and said this Mr. Paul...that is so awsome!!
If anyone has a question to any of my posts...I have MD email! 
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| Sep 12 @ 2:28 PM |
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MrPaul
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You can do the same for me if I offend you, Okay Deb you dont offend me Just a few of your comments do. But I look forward to reading and learning more of others views including yours Maybe you'd like to take a few of your un-Holy brothers to some scuzball secular site where you won't be confronted with anything nice? SOC,  Come on have a cup of coffee and relax .. we all need to move forward and show respect. Yes that includes me, you and everyone that post
[Edited on 9/12/2009 2:40 PM]
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