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j_goose

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Why exactly are we here?
Why would a perfect God feel the need to create anything?
A god that is perfect would have no need to create a damn thing. He couldn't be bored. He couldn't be lonely.
If he was bored or lonely (human traits) he is hardly perfect.
The ONLY reason God created man was to be worshipped. (big headed ego) It's all through the Bible. Man has NO OTHER PURPOSE than to worship the sky fairy.
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| Oct 10 @ 8:45 PM |
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southernlass

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So don't worship ...
My purpose on this earth is to love and serve God. My second purpose is to be a wonderful mom to my little girl, the best mom I can be. My third purpose is to give back for what I have been so freely given through a host of different ways, through my career, and through many of my other gifts, like writing.
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| Oct 10 @ 8:49 PM |
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j_goose

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My purpose on this earth is to love and serve God. So why does god need worshippers?
Why was man ceated by a "perfect" being?
If perfect, he'd have no use nor interest in any of us.
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| Oct 10 @ 9:00 PM |
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southernlass

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Question: "Why did God create us?" Answer: The short answer to the question “why did God create us?” is “for His pleasure.” Revelation 4:11 says, “You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being.” Colossians 1:16 reiterates the point: “All things were created by him and for him.” Being created for God’s pleasure does not mean humanity was made to entertain God or provide Him with amusement. God is a creative Being, and it gives Him pleasure to create. God is a personal Being, and it gives Him pleasure to have other beings He can have a genuine relationship with. Being made in the image and likeness of God (Genesis 1:27), human beings have the ability to know God and therefore love Him, worship Him, serve Him, and fellowship with Him. God did not create human beings because He needed them. As God, He needs nothing. In all eternity past, He felt no loneliness, so He was not looking for a “friend.” He loves us, but this is not the same as needing us. If we had never existed, God would still be God—the unchanging One (Malachi 3:6). The I AM (Exodus 3:14) was never dissatisfied with His own eternal existence. When He made the universe, He did what pleased Himself, and since God is perfect, His action was perfect. “It was very good” (Genesis 1:31). Also, God did not create “peers” or beings equal to Himself. Logically, He could not do so. If God were to create another being of equal power, intelligence, and perfection, then He would cease to be the one true God for the simple reason that there would be two gods—and that would be an impossibility. “The LORD is God; besides him there is no other” (Deuteronomy 4:35). Anything that God creates must of necessity be lesser than He. The thing made can never be greater than, or as great as, the One who made it. Recognizing the complete sovereignty and holiness of God, we are amazed that He would take man and crown him “with glory and honor” (Psalm 8:5) and that He would condescend to call us “friends” (John 15:14-15). Why did God create us? God created us for His pleasure and so that we, as His creation, would have the pleasure of knowing Him. why did God create Man?
God wants fellowship with you not because of what you are but because of what He is. He is loving He is giving The best He can give is Himself. He has given you the Holy Spirit so that you might have God living within you. Not in a desert sanctuary or a stone temple, but in a living intimate way. You can know Him, experience Him, and feel Him. He made the universe for you. He created you for Him. Enjoy Him. why did God make you?
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| Oct 10 @ 9:18 PM |
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uab_5

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Chaos!
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| Oct 10 @ 9:20 PM |
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j_goose

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Why do you have to google for opnions?
Your post shows god as having human traits.
He did what pleased Himself Not a trait of an omnipotent being. Pleasure is human.
God is a creative Being, and it gives Him pleasure to create. God is a personal Being, and it gives Him pleasure to have other beings He can have a genuine relationship with.
A perfect god would not need a relationship of any kind.
He loves us, A perfect god would not have any use for love, hate, or jealousy.
Why did God create us? God created us for His pleasure and so that we, as His creation, would have the pleasure of knowing Him.
Again with the pleasure. Big ego. A perfect god would have no use for pleasure. He'd have no use for us to "know" him. He'd be self sufficient.
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| Oct 10 @ 9:26 PM |
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southernlass

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Googling provides the opinions of those more theologically well versed than myself. It also provides a sciptural basis for the opinion, as I'm hardly a bible expert.
I've already told you my purpose. I can't speak for other Christians here. I speak from my knowledge of the relationship I have with Jesus Christ, with God. God appears to take much delight in me and our relationship. He loves me. He enjoys guiding and leading me. He enjoys helping me. I don't know how to make it much simpler than that, though I know you won't relate to my words or understand them. They come from a place you aren't aware of -- this is a spiritual matter and one must have such a spiritual relationship with a higher power in order to comprehend what I'm talking about.
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| Oct 10 @ 11:14 PM |
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Angel54214

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Since this new thread is in conjuction to the Sam Harris thread...I will transfer my reply here:
The ONLY reason God created man was to be worshipped. (big headed ego) It's all through the Bible. Man has NO OTHER PURPOSE than to worship the sky fairy.
That's not what the creation indicates in Genesis 1:
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. And in Revelation 4 we read the human creation still confirmed and God deemed worthy of receiving glory and honor by man:
11 “You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being.” A creation can never be above the creator...that holds truth on earth from man himself who also can create earthly things as well as God that can create living things. As humans can with the natural state created by God, can duplicate themselves, thus the children are an addition to the couple's union and are lower than they. It is required of the children to be obedient to their parents is it not?
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| Oct 10 @ 11:17 PM |
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Jankia

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Why would a perfect God feel the need to create anything?
A god that is perfect would have no need to create a damn thing. He couldn't be bored. He couldn't be lonely.
Again with the pleasure. Big ego. A perfect god would have no use for pleasure. He'd have no use for us to "know" him. He'd be self sufficient. How can a person that tends to be filled with so much knowledge from the Bible about God not know who God is? Because they havent looked beyond studying someone elses words to find God personally for themselves. Theres far more to God then any of us know....yet. Yes,God does have a big ego because of the pride he has in creating life on earth but his ego isnt a self-conceited one like the man he created.The God of love isnt so content with his perfection that he could care less about creating the imperfect.
Your right,being the allmighty he couldnt be lonely or bored unless he created nothing. Consider Gods creation of man was done so man could finish what he created. Look how far science has come in the last 200 years...a very short time in history,and then look how far we havent. So much is unexplainable to science and us while we live in the third dimension which will hopefully and eventually turn out to be as primitive as the time when people never even knew what a dimension was.
I say "hopefully" because if we dont show more concern for the planet God put us on,earth wont have any further purpose for man.
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| Oct 10 @ 11:19 PM |
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j_goose

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those more theologically well versed than myself. It also provides a sciptural basis for the opinion, as I'm hardly a bible expert.
The scripture in your post does not support this:
God appears to take much delight in me and our relationship. He loves me. He enjoys guiding and leading me. He enjoys helping me. however:
Psalm 34:1-4 1 I will bless the LORD at all times;His praise shall continually be in my mouth.[/B] 2 My soul shall make its boast in the LORD; the humble shall hear it and rejoice. 3 O magnify the LORD with me, and let us exalt His name together. 4 I sought the LORD, and He answered me, and delivered me from all my fears.
Psalm 62:8 Trust in Him at all times, O people; pour out your heart before Him; God is a refuge for us. Selah.
Luke 18:1 Now He was telling them a parable to show that at all times they ought to pray and not to lose heart,
Luke 21:36 But keep on the alert at all times, praying
Ephesians 6:18 With all prayer and petition pray at all times in the Spirit, and with this in view, be on the alert with all perseverance and petition for all the saints,
Deuteronomy 14:23 "And you shall eat in the presence of the LORD your God, at the place where He chooses to establish His name, the tithe of your grain, your new wine, your oil, and the first-born of your herd and your flock, in order that you may learn to fear the LORD your God always.
Deuteronomy 19:9 if you carefully observe all this commandment, which I command you today, to love the LORD your God, and to walk in His ways always-- then you shall add three more cities for yourself, besides these three.
Proverbs 23:17 Do not let your heart envy sinners, but live in the fear of the LORD always.
Proverbs 28:14 How blessed is the man who fears always, but he who hardens his heart will fall into calamity.
1 Corinthians 15:58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your toil is not in vain in the Lord.
Ephesians 5:18-20 18 And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit, 19 speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody with your heart to the Lord; 20 always giving thanks for all things in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to God, even the Father;
Philippians 4:4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, rejoice!
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 16 Rejoice always; 17 pray without ceasing; 18 in everything give thanks; for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
Psalm 35:27-28 27 Let them shout for joy and rejoice, who favor my vindication; and let them say continually, "The LORD be magnified, who delights in the prosperity of His servant." 28 And my tongue shall declare Thy righteousness and Thy praise all day long.
Psalm 70:4 Let all who seek Thee rejoice and be glad in Thee; and let those who love Thy salvation say continually, "Let God be magnified""
Psalm 71:14-15 14 But as for me, I will hope continually, and will praise Thee yet more and more. 15 My mouth shall tell of Thy righteousness, and of Thy salvation all day long; for I do not know the sum of them.
Isaiah 51:13 That you have forgotten the LORD your maker, who stretched out the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth; that you fear continually all day long because of the fury of the oppressor, as he makes ready to destroy? But where is the fury of the oppressor?
Hebrews 13:15 Through Him then, let us continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that give thanks to His name.
I don't think you're getting the thread topic.
a perfect Diety would not create anything. there would be no need, no interest.
Scripturally, the only purpose of man is to worship.
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| Oct 10 @ 11:33 PM |
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alivenwell351

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Scripturally, the only purpose of man is to worship. And realistically, the only purpose of man as far as religion goes is to profit from the "salvation for profit" scheme, started so long ago...
I swear, if some of the guys who started this whole scam and wrote this bible could somehow come back and check things out today, they'd either be in shock or laughing their asses off. I doubt if even they could believe how many folks have bought into the original Ponzi scheme...
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| Oct 10 @ 11:34 PM |
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j_goose

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Let's not forget good old Pauls words....
[QUOTE]I Corinthians 10:31 “So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God”
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| Oct 10 @ 11:38 PM |
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Angel54214

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a perfect Diety would not create anything. there would be no need, no interest. Name one "Perfect Diety" that you hold your comparison opinion too...
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| Oct 10 @ 11:38 PM |
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Jankia

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Like I said...How can people that tend to be filled with so much knowledge from the Bible about God not know who God is? Because they havent looked beyond studying someone elses words to find God personally for themselves.
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| Oct 10 @ 11:43 PM |
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Angel54214

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Let's not forget good old Pauls words....
[QUOTE]I Corinthians 10:31 “So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God” Why are you "cherry picking" (Deb accuses Pastor Don of doing this), and not notice that Paul is referring to God's GLORY, which is only one attribute of God himself?
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| Oct 10 @ 11:47 PM |
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j_goose

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Like I said...How can people that tend to be filled with so much knowledge from the Bible about God not know who God is? Because they havent looked beyond studying someone elses words to find God personally for themselves.
Off topic as you have no idea what or whom I've studied.
You don't even know who/what god is yourself. No one could.
Angel, there is no need for a comparrison to anything. A perfect being would be just that. Perfect. He would be in a state of harmony and peace with no need for outside worship (or ego strokes) or love, or happiness, or companionship.
Ego is a human trait, along with pleasure, need, love, hate, jealousy, etc, etc, etc.
For a god to have any of those traits makes him not perfect.
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| Oct 10 @ 11:52 PM |
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j_goose

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Why are you "cherry picking" (Deb accuses Pastor Don of doing this), and not notice that Paul is referring to God's GLORY, which is only one attribute of God himself Show me how this is cherry picking, or are you that desparate to call out Deb?
Paul said it himself, didn't he?
"Do all to the Glory of God"
Thats not an attribute, Angel, it's worship. That's what giving glory mens.
Do you need the definition?
Glory: •a state of high honor; "he valued glory above life itself" •rejoice proudly
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| Oct 10 @ 11:57 PM |
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Angel54214

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Angel, there is no need for a comparrison to anything. A perfect being would be just that. Perfect. He would be in a state of harmony and peace with no need for outside worship (or ego strokes) or love, or happiness, or companionship.
Ego is a human trait, along with pleasure, need, love, hate, jealousy, etc, etc, etc.
For a god to have any of those traits makes him not perfect. Then God would not be a "living" God, but just a God made of wood, stone or metal. A God that does not feel, nor does not share feelings to another. A god made of material things can not create a living being.
A "living" God can love, can hate, can be jealous and even repent...a morbid man-made god can not.
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| Oct 11 @ 12:21 AM |
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Jankia

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goose- Off topic as you have no idea what or whom I've studied. No I dont....sorry,I had no idea that everyting you write on here is a copy and paste of someone elses work.
You don't even know who/what god is yourself. No one could. Wrong in my opinion,but that was yours.
BTW-If what I questioned you about...Let's not forget good old Pauls words.... wasnt off topic....why was my question pertaining to your quoting Paul off topic? I can only assume its because you couldnt answer it right?
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| Oct 11 @ 12:58 AM |
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bunnybiz

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Man's purpose on earth? to serve woman, of course.
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