| Oct 15 @ 9:06 PM |
Jesus is a space alien
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LanceVarden7
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OK, most floks think that there is probably (definitely) life elsewhere in the universe. In the infinity of space, even if the chances are infinitely small, if it is possible, it has to have happened again, many times over. The bible even points to this with the "I have other sheep in other flocks"
Anyhow. let's say for the sake of argument that there are many races, so strange and unimaginable it would have boggled the mind of the late Gene Roddenberry (Star Trek)
So, assuming these are sentient beings, and therefore have souls (if there is anyone out there wants to debate sentient=having a soul, I am up for that) but anyhow, assuming they have souls, and we obviously don't have the ability to go teach them about Yeashua, Yeashua must have made them a visit as well. So, if he did, how do you suppose he would appear to them? As a human? That would make as much sense as him appearing on Earth as a space alien.
So, if we extrapolate. If Yeashua did appear to alien races through out the universe as their one of their own, why would it be so difficult to believe that he might have appeared in different guises to the various cultures and peoples of the Earth?
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| Oct 15 @ 9:33 PM |
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iam01
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When I used to skydive we used to joke about flying through some time portal and landing somewhere 1000 years ago. We would have have been either worshiped as gods or killed as demons. Think about the cargo worshipers who build airplane shapes and worship them.
If Jesus was an alien then he was a species from another world. Not a god but an astronaut. There may have been many visitors who made contact on earth and they were the inspiration for Greek and Roman gods who often came to earth on fiery chariots and mated with humans. One has to take a look at Nazca lines in Peru where there are no mountains to see them from and wonder why there look like runways from the sky. And no, its not proof of ET but it is very fascinating. I hardly think an advanced intergalactic vehicle would need a runway.
As far as we know, the universe is teeming with such life but they cloak themselves from our primitive telescopes because they know how ignorant we are and may destroy ourselves with such knowledge. See Drake equation. Its not hard to comprehend that. Religious psychos have no rational boundaries.
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| Oct 15 @ 9:38 PM |
Jesus is a space alien
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LanceVarden7
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If Jesus was an alien then he was a species from another world. Not a god but an astronaut. That was not where I was going. What I meant was, if there is one singular all powerful being that could come to Earth in the guise of Yeashua, he must have also appeared to other sentient beings in other parts of the world. If so, it is reasonable toe expect that he did not go there as a human, but as an indeginous being, as he did with Earth.
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| Oct 15 @ 9:43 PM |
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iam01
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There is no reason to believe an advanced being could morph at will. We are just emerging from Type 0 and a Type 3 or Type 4 civilization will have complete capacity to control every process in the universe including physicality. That would also mean they are immoral. They would be a million years a head of us. The universe is 15 billion years old so there was enough time for such a race to evolve. The problem is we can not comprehend what a species a million years ahead of us would be like. They would be god-like in every respect and certainly beyond what we could dream up. They would have the power to travel anywhere in space, in time and control stars, create universes which, by the way, we in our lifetime may do at CERN.
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| Oct 15 @ 10:52 PM |
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Angel54214
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Reminds me of Applewhite and his Heaven's Gate cult...and we know what happened to him and his merry men. They definately are out of this world.
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| Oct 16 @ 1:13 AM |
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lacyvsq
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OK, if one reads the 'christmas' story, there are so many angel appearances. Nobody questions "Uh, what do you mean, an angel?" They just seem to accept something supernatural.
So maybe angels are aliens. An alien impregnates a young girl and then appears to her husband and says "Yeah, it's mine, but raise it like it's yours."
The shepherds out in the field see a host of angels...UFO? No, they identify these flying objects as angels.
Then a 'star' leads the wise men (astrologers) to Bethlehem with a stopover at Jerusalem. It came to rest over the place where Jesus lay. Sounds sort of like a helicopter with a spotlight huh?
When Jesus is baptized, there is voice from heaven -- or from a spaceship?
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| Oct 16 @ 4:53 AM |
Jesus is a space alien
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beckyiv42000
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why would it be so difficult to believe that he might have appeared in different guises to the various cultures and peoples of the Earth?  I dont know HOW many times I have posted that same thought.. and how much trouble I used to get into in religion classes at school because I thought this same thing.....we even had a thread here where I posted pictures of different religious leaders all so similar in appearance and even hand gestures.. why not??/ It would make TOTAL sense to visit and teach a people as someone they could understand and relate to...  especially since they ALL taught the same basic tenets
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| Oct 16 @ 9:59 AM |
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LanceVarden7
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The notion upsets a lot of Christian folks. Some will argue that everyone on Earth has the opportunity. That is why I brought up the idea of other sentient beings in the universe. If they exist, he must have appeared to them. If he appeared to them, he certainly wouldn't have done it as a human.
The same logic carries through on Earth. The native Americans had a "Great White Spirit" that some believe was Yeashua in another form.
We know that Yeashua, as the real flesh and blood person did not have the means to come to the west (let alone visit other planets)
Since the form he took as Yeashua was indigenous to the area, it stands to reason that, it he were to visit other cultures as well.
Breaking it down, here are six questions I would like folks to take a chance at
1. Do youy think there is probably sentient llife off Earth?
2. If so, do you think they have souls?
3. If they have souls, do you think the Christ visited them?
4. If so, do you think he went as a human, or as an indeginous life form?
5. Do you think he was executed there, as he was here?
6. Do you tink there was sentient life on Earth outside of where the teachings of the Christ could have reached?
7. If so, do they have souls?
8. If they have souls, do you think the Christ visited them?
9. If so, do you think he created himself there as a Jew from Nazarene, or as a person of the indeginous culture?
10. Do you think he was executed there, as he was here?
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| Oct 16 @ 10:23 AM |
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lacyvsq
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We know that Yeashua, as the real flesh and blood person did not have the means to come to the west (let alone visit other planets)
Well, no, we don't know that. He ascended into heaven -- maybe got beamed up -- and the Mormons claim he came to the Americas.
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| Oct 16 @ 11:25 AM |
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LanceVarden7
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Well, no, we don't know that. He ascended into heaven -- maybe got beamed up -- and the Mormons claim he came to the Americas. Good point. Let me clarify.
In a mortal, flesh-n-blood sense he didn't have the means. If he ahd the means to race the dead, and change water to wine, then he could have gotten over there. Speaking from a mortal, human angle, Yeashua never traveled more than 100 miles from his place of birth.
But that is all beside the point.
If he appeared to others in other places, how did he appear?
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| Oct 16 @ 11:40 AM |
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iam01
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Well, if we just stick to earth, we know other myths of raising the dead and turning water into wine. We see resurrection as a universal motif. This is due to almost all on this planet experiencing the change in the seasons. This is plausible because in parts of the world, such as the polar caps, those who inhabit those areas have a very different kind of mythology. For example, their hell is a very cold place. This makes sense because those from the middle east consider hell a very hot place. To folks in the ice caps, a very hot place would be heaven. Why is that? Because myths reflect the environment.
On other planets, the cycles of nature would be very different yet all would have cycles since all planets revolve around suns and suns revolve around black holes along with billions of other suns.. Suns supply energy and life depends upon energy. There would probably be people developing myths about the sun, life, death and resurrection too. They may have hero/savior myths and I wouldn't doubt that if such civilizations did exist. Some solar systems have binary stars so their myths may have twin gods. Myths are really reflections of people trying to make sense of the life they are living.
I would expect any civilization to have myths about light since stars are everywhere. Well, maybe. If there is a dark part of the universe were no light exists yet there is energy we would expect their god to say "Let there be darkness". Its all about where they are from.
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| Oct 16 @ 12:03 PM |
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Josuha
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1. Do you think there is probably sentient life off Earth?
No..
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| Oct 16 @ 12:04 PM |
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alivenwell351
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One of the most compelling convincing things I've ever seen was many years ago on the TV documentary of Von Daniken's "Chariots Of The Gods"....
The camera was set to show a close up of some "natives" dressed up in their ceremonial best, and just dancing their ritualistic asses off. As the camera slowly panned back to show the larger picture, it finally showed what these people were "worshiping". It was a very crude tree limb and straw mockup of a Piper Cub!!
Turns out these were the folks on the island somewhere in the S. Pacific, that had never seen anyone else but their own...until they were discovered by a group of scientists....who had landed on the island in a Piper Cub. These scientists were obviously "gods" to the islands inhabitants.
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| Oct 16 @ 12:07 PM |
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kjac
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Jesus was an alien.
Jesus was a zombie.
Which one is harder to believe?
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| Oct 16 @ 12:08 PM |
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lacyvsq
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Speaking from a mortal, human angle, Yeashua never traveled more than 100 miles from his place of birth.
Well, we don't know that either. There is a long space of time between his telling his parents at age 12 that he must be about his father's business until he began his ministry at age 30. There is conjecture that Joseph of Arimithea was his uncle and a wealthy merchant who sent him to England where he studied with the Druids. There is also some evidence that he spent time in Tibet studying the Tao.
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| Oct 16 @ 12:11 PM |
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Josuha
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Which one is harder to believe?
How about outside the laws of physics/time/space we don't understand?
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| Oct 16 @ 1:15 PM |
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beckyiv42000
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1. Do youy think there is probably sentient llife off Earth?
Sure why not
2. If so, do you think they have souls?
A soul, a life force, whatever you wanna call it yeppers
3. If they have souls, do you think the Christ visited them?
I thinks its quite possible a messenger of some sort visited them ..
4. If so, do you think he went as a human, or as an indeginous life form?
indigenous life form
5. Do you think he was executed there, as he was here?
no way to know for sure they might have been a peaceful beings unafraid of change so no need for violence
6. Do you tink there was sentient life on Earth outside of where the teachings of the Christ could have reached?
Oh heck yeah.. hence the need for OTHER messengers ..
7. If so, do they have souls?
I believe ANY living being has a life force.. be it plant or animal its all part of the whole
8. If they have souls, do you think the Christ visited them?
Maybe not Christ but Im sure that the universal message was sent out there somehow
9. If so, do you think he created himself there as a Jew from Nazarene, or as a person of the indeginous culture?
Indigenous ..people just dont listen to STRANGERS
10. Do you think he was executed there, as he was here?
I think that the messengers did what they had to get the attention they needed to impart their message.. if it meant sacrificing someone to bring the pity ploy to use them um maybe??
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| Oct 17 @ 7:56 AM |
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eyesofastranger
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at some point in evolution we ceased being (action reaction) animals and became sentient beings the ability to feel or perceive subjectively. Someone was the first. This someone was immortal same as you and I. This someone was able to take his life experience back to the cosmos,. Jesus.......ect.....ect ...pick one ....Isis.....(and some we have never heard of).....ect....... all the way back someone was first, and the myth began. Nothing alien about it. It was evolved right here on Earth.
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| Oct 17 @ 8:28 AM |
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CPUfan
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And Mitochondrial Eve was his mother.
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| Oct 17 @ 8:41 AM |
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eyesofastranger
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the mitochondrial Eve has been expanded with current knowledge. So it seems in the last ice age we where down to about 30 reproducing females only maybe 20 thousand years ago. Yash has stated we bread with Neanderthals further complicating our Deoxyribonucleic acid. The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time. all human females carry one specific gene. And we fight about what? If a guy wears a turban? Skin colour? Gimme a break. Eve is our mother. we're all from Africa.
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