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Oct 26 @ 5:49 PM Mayan Calendar    
alaskenmike


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The calendar ends in 2012 and some mathmatitian played around with the I Ching and came up with the same date.

It is on a Dutch Website but the video is in English - it is rather long as there is a part 1 and 2 and both are 1 and a half hours long.


http://www.uitdetijd.nl/index.php/Ian-Xel-Lungold-Deel-1.html
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Oct 27 @ 6:21 AM Mayan Calendar    
dizzydoll


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And isnt that strange, the Mayans never had any telescopes or science to come up with that date and they lived between 250 - 950AD. Thanks for the link i will watch it later. Nostradamus also made the similar 2012 predictions even tho he never had access to the Mayan calender.

Many of Nostradamus' predictions have been uncannily accurate even tho he lived 500 years ago. His diagrams which are in Rome (i think) show a book with blank pages, the spokes have been removed from the wheel of fortune and 3 women have been reduced to 2. You can decide but he did use the words "the cunning will be expelled". He said much about what has already happened with weather conditions, war and destruction and will continue to happen and it seems to get worse. He says the world will be thrown into darkness.

That date 21/12/2012 is the date where they are aware of scientifically our Sun will be in alignment with the center of the Milky Way. The last time this happened was 26 thousand years ago and thousands of species disappeared. Its called the galactic alignment and it always brings some sort of chaos when we are in the age of Aquarius or Leo. There are other planetary activity during 2012 and they say there will be a total eclipse of the Sun.

Science says the magnetic fields are weakening, due to this students of his work say there could be a shift in the poles. According to them if this happened satellites would no longer work so communications and power would be lost. I suppose thats one way to expel the cunning but it would be the same for all of us

No-one knows what to expect but the world only comes to an end in 3797 according to Nostradamus. Personally, i dont ponder on it. The best way to live is in the present with a view to improving our future... we cant do anything more than that


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Oct 28 @ 12:46 PM Mayan Calendar    
dizzydoll


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It is on a Dutch Website but the video is in English - it is rather long as there is a part 1 and 2 and both are 1 and a half hours long.

I purchased the DVD some time ago. Although it sounds feasible throughout the end falls flat, as what he has predicted has not come true.
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Oct 29 @ 6:18 AM Mayan Calendar    
eyesofastranger


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i have posted the video from Ian Xel Lungold a few times. He died of cancer in 2006. If he knew what we know now that the gliphs have been decipherer he would be a very interesting man to have a beer with.
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Oct 29 @ 4:20 PM Mayan Calendar    
dizzydoll


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He died of cancer in 2006.

I didnt know that, he had tremendous energy. One could feel it in the way he spoke and moved. Quite sexy really
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Oct 30 @ 3:34 AM Mayan Calendar    
eyesofastranger


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Ian we could see was a nice man. What he predicted using the calender came true but not in the way he predicted it. Myself I have tried to use the calender to make predictions to find I was exactly wrong but something entirely different happened on the predicted time line. An elder in the Mayan civilization had to live 51 1/2 years to experience each katuun and understand it. Ian had a website that is still active. He commented often about world events from his perspective until he died. If interested google it's easy to find.
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Oct 30 @ 4:50 AM Mayan Calendar    
dizzydoll


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Hi eye

i am not really that interested in predictions cos i have always been of the belief that we can change the course we take. I am also not into doomsday predictions. So many times in the world people have predicted the end. All nonsense.

I believe its far better to focus on the present, even if you are in your own hell for that time.. stay there, lessons are learned from both negative/positive... we should embrace both in ourselves. Personally i prefer being upbeat, but then i have to balance the books.

have a nice day
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Oct 30 @ 6:45 AM Mayan Calendar    
eyesofastranger


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Mike posted asking WTF
I suppose me being the only one at MD that believes in the creation clock and creations intent I should answer him.
Creation has a clockwork and an intent. It can be used to make predictions but you can't predict events. Only patterns cuz in the quantum world that drives everything there is no symmetry. In the quantum world actually everything and anything is possible. All you have to do is wait for an eternity for it to happen.
The mayans turns out used brutal means to explore this intent and came up with some conclusions. I wish Ian was alive to read what the glyphs said. This advanced knowledge was recognized by the Christian church and then was summarily destroyed. Although most is lost we have some snippets of information that survived the book burnings.
2012 is the beginning of the end of Homo Sapiens in favour of a more advanced primate. We're already loosing our teeth and our hair (especially me)
The last time we passed through the rift the Cromagnons appeared and interbred with the Neanderthals producing the species we call Homo Sapien.
Then the intent of the cosmos resets. What will you notice on the morning of Dec 22? Not much. On Dec 22 2099 ya you'll be able to see what happened
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Oct 30 @ 1:24 PM Mayan Calendar    
dizzydoll


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On Dec 22 2099 ya you'll be able to see what happened

sounds ominous,

In Nostradamus' before and after diagrams, first they show the pages in the book with writing and then the books pages are blank. The spokes have been removed from the wheel afterwards. What can that mean? And then three women are reduced to two. I wonder what that means?
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Oct 31 @ 5:11 AM Mayan Calendar    
eyesofastranger


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morning Dizzy
Well if nastradamus the Icheng and the Egyptians and and and ..... can't see past the rift then it is a new time where creation takes a new path and no one can see.
Nastradamus shows us an empty book. He used astrology and the patterns of our past history to see patterns then used vague quatrains to predict future based on these vague patterns. He had an unworldly ability to predict the severity of the repeated patterns. In the next rift the clock should follow the same patterns but I admit I'm as blank as Nastradamus. There is no record of all the changes and interactions and clan of the cave bear chit and patterns that happened all those years ago. I know only one of the Cromagnon remains is dated at 33,000 years??? I don't have an explanation for that except maybe it's a mistake as is often the case with carbon dating.
The cavemen that wrote the bible say that the next will leave only 1000 on Earth. Considering how resilient we are and the number of people with guns and 5 years of canned meat???? I suspect if this is true it is the number of advanced humans that will live among us at first. A true blond blue eyed cromagnon was far more advanced than a Neandrathal. Maybe if this happens again they will leave us to die. Or maybe i'm batshitcrazy. Just thinking aloud.

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Oct 31 @ 6:17 PM Mayan Calendar    
Jankia


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The calendar ends in 2012 and some mathmatitian played around with the I Ching and came up with the same date.

No need to fret just yet.
What the Mayans didnt know.
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Oct 31 @ 6:28 PM Mayan Calendar    
dizzydoll


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Hi Eye

Like you said earlier, we will just have to wait to see. I am a little apprensive about the galactic alignment with our sun to the center of the milky way. This last happened last 26000 years ago and many species became extinct. This is a scientific fact. Also they know when we are in the sign of Aquarius or Leo when the galactic alignment takes place some kind of chaos takes place

Still we have no alternative but to wait and see. I prefer to think nothing will happen


What the Mayans didnt know.

yup Jankia, i believe this too. Thoughout the eons people have come up with dates of the end of the world. We are still here and will be after 2012, me thinks.


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Oct 31 @ 6:35 PM Mayan Calendar    
CPUfan


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There's a real anniversary in 2012. > 100th Anniversary of the Titanic <

2014 is the 100th anniversary of the First World War.
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Oct 31 @ 6:49 PM Mayan Calendar    
dizzydoll


Posts: 666
Hi CPU

I will read your email tomorrow, promise. I have been putting a project together with Tom. Its so exciting. I will let you guys know later. This is big, this is very very very big.

2014 is the 100th anniversary of the First World War

put it behind you, after all its in the past. The present is where it is at now

[Edited on 10/31/2009 6:51 PM]
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Oct 31 @ 6:50 PM Mayan Calendar    
j_goose


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The ending of the Mayan Calender does not necessarily mean something catastrophic. It could just mean an "awakening" or some sort of "enlightenment".

It could be the introduction of a new god with major religious implications, or just the end of religious separatism.

It could also mean the coming of an intellectual/scientific realization.

No one knows. So there's really no sense in worrying about it.

As for Nostradamus, all his so-called predictions can be twisted to represent themselves as being successful. (Much like predictions in the Bible being read wrongly)

Hell, maybe the end of the Mayan calendar just means dinner's ready.
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Nov 1 @ 1:37 AM Mayan Calendar    
Angel54214


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2012 Doomsday Not Likely, Mayans Insist

Oct. 12, 2009 -- Apolinario Chile Pixtun is tired of being bombarded with frantic questions about the Mayan calendar supposedly "running out" on Dec. 21, 2012. After all, it's not the end of the world.

Or is it?

Definitely not, the Mayan Indian elder insists. "I came back from England last year and, man, they had me fed up with this stuff."

It can only get worse for him. Next month Hollywood's "2012" opens in cinemas, featuring earthquakes, meteor showers and a tsunami dumping an aircraft carrier on the White House.

At Cornell University, Ann Martin, who runs the "Curious? Ask an Astronomer" Web site, says people are scared.

"It's too bad that we're getting e-mails from fourth-graders who are saying that they're too young to die," Martin said. "We had a mother of two young children who was afraid she wouldn't live to see them grow up."

Chile Pixtun, a Guatemalan, says the doomsday theories spring from Western, not Mayan ideas.

A significant time period for the Mayas does end on the date, and enthusiasts have found a series of astronomical alignments they say coincide in 2012, including one that happens roughly only once every 25,800 years.

But most archaeologists, astronomers and Maya say the only thing likely to hit Earth is a meteor shower of New Age philosophy, pop astronomy, Internet doomsday rumors and TV specials such as one on the History Channel which mixes "predictions" from Nostradamus and the Mayas and asks: "Is 2012 the year the cosmic clock finally winds down to zero days, zero hope?"

It may sound all too much like other doomsday scenarios of recent decades -- the 1987 Harmonic Convergence, the Jupiter Effect or "Planet X." But this one has some grains of archaeological basis.

One of them is Monument Six.

Found at an obscure ruin in southern Mexico during highway construction in the 1960s, the stone tablet almost didn't survive; the site was largely paved over and parts of the tablet were looted.

It's unique in that the remaining parts contain the equivalent of the date 2012. The inscription describes something that is supposed to occur in 2012 involving Bolon Yokte, a mysterious Mayan god associated with both war and creation.

However -- shades of Indiana Jones -- erosion and a crack in the stone make the end of the passage almost illegible.

Archaeologist Guillermo Bernal of Mexico's National Autonomous University interprets the last eroded glyphs as maybe saying, "He will descend from the sky."

Spooky, perhaps, but Bernal notes there are other inscriptions at Mayan sites for dates far beyond 2012 -- including one that roughly translates into the year 4772.

And anyway, Mayas in the drought-stricken Yucatan peninsula have bigger worries than 2012.

"If I went to some Mayan-speaking communities and asked people what is going to happen in 2012, they wouldn't have any idea," said Jose Huchim, a Yucatan Mayan archaeologist. "That the world is going to end? They wouldn't believe you. We have real concerns these days, like rain."

The Mayan civilization, which reached its height from 300 A.D. to 900 A.D., had a talent for astronomy.

Its Long Count calendar begins in 3,114 B.C., marking time in roughly 394-year periods known as Baktuns. Thirteen was a significant, sacred number for the Mayas, and the 13th Baktun ends around Dec. 21, 2012.

"It's a special anniversary of creation," said David Stuart, a specialist in Mayan epigraphy at the University of Texas at Austin. "The Maya never said the world is going to end, they never said anything bad would happen necessarily, they're just recording this future anniversary on Monument Six."

Bernal suggests that apocalypse is "a very Western, Christian" concept projected onto the Maya, perhaps because Western myths are "exhausted."

If it were all mythology, perhaps it could be written off.

But some say the Maya knew another secret: the Earth's axis wobbles, slightly changing the alignment of the stars every year. Once every 25,800 years, the sun lines up with the center of our Milky Way galaxy on a winter solstice, the sun's lowest point in the horizon.

That will happen on Dec. 21, 2012, when the sun appears to rise in the same spot where the bright center of galaxy sets.

Another spooky coincidence?

"The question I would ask these guys is, so what?" says Phil Plait, an astronomer who runs the "Bad Astronomy" blog. He says the alignment doesn't fall precisely in 2012, and distant stars exert no force that could harm Earth.

"They're really super-duper trying to find anything astronomical they can to fit that date of 2012," Plait said.

But author John Major Jenkins says his two-decade study of Mayan ruins indicate the Maya were aware of the alignment and attached great importance to it.

"If we want to honor and respect how the Maya think about this, then we would say that the Maya viewed 2012, as all cycle endings, as a time of transformation and renewal," said Jenkins.

"No one who's writing in now seems to remember that the last time we thought the world was going to end, it didn't," says Martin, the astronomy webmaster. "There doesn't seem to be a lot of memory that things were fine the last time around."
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/10/12/2012-doomsday.html

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Nov 1 @ 6:03 AM Mayan Calendar    
eyesofastranger


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world events are based on a quadrillion opinions coming to a quadrillion conclusions.

I am a little apprensive about the galactic alignment with our sun to the center of the milky way.

Like Dizzy said.... Maybe that's the point. We aren't going to go where we're going unless everyone feels this way. The Mayans left on this Earth are shaking their collective heads and saying it's just astronomy.
So you have to believe in Astrology to believe world events are patterned after astronomy. I actually do believe that but I don't believe the Mayans figured it out completely and we won't! until we lick quantum physics the double slit experiment and Schroeder's cat. Once we can figure out exactly how the dimensions are laid out then we can reverse engineer how things interact.
In the past evolution took the fast lane around an alignment. The only problem I see with this is the fastest organism's to evolve are always the simplest. So maybe in the years leading up to an alignment the Norwalk, West Nile, Ebola, Hiv and all the way to 2009 swine flu is just the beginning of an explosion in evolutionary changes to all species. New virulent viruses are not new but they used to happen every few hundred years then every 50 years and now few times a year. I'm worried the 2012 barrier might bring them by the thousands as part of what nature does.
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