| Apr 14, 2006 @ 7:30 PM |
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mailorderannie
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Now there's a subject we haven't discussed? Do you believe its possible?
My mom used to "fly" in her sleep and pick my daughter and nephew up to fly with her. Personally, I think that was a form of astral projection. My daughter has done it for years and one night shortly after she can come home from college for the summer, I woke up during the night saying "Jamie, get back in your body, hun" because I felt her zip through my room.
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| Apr 14, 2006 @ 7:57 PM |
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Pete73052
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Yes, I think astral projection is possible. I don't consider it the same as lucid dreaming although dreaming is said to occur on the astral plane. I think astral projection and his little brother remote viewing are both available to us even without too much spiritual work. A good exercise is to try lifting out of your body while meditating and seeing yourself. As you become accustomed to that, you can go further and further. If you consciously worry about leaving your body, and this hinders your progress, it sometimes helps if you can visualize a silver thread attaching your astral body to your physical body. And yes, I'm taking couch potato to a whole new level. 
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| Apr 15, 2006 @ 4:38 PM |
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Empath
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Pete! Pete! Hey, Dude...glad to see you are still around!! (I actually got excited there for a second!!  )
I was hoping that if you got a chance you might be able to tell me a little bit about Sacred Geometry. I haven't really been able to find anything useful. You mentioned that you use it on gemstones when designing cuts, and I was wondering what determines its application, and anything else you have time to tell me. Thanks!!
Astral Projection??? I'll bet that relates to Quantum Physics in a BIG way!!
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| Apr 15, 2006 @ 7:35 PM |
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Pete73052
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I can tell you about sacred geometry - but not right now, my kids are waiting for me to take them out to dinner. I'll try to get to it tonight and go into some detail for you.
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| Apr 15, 2006 @ 10:22 PM |
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Pete73052
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OK, so Sacred Geometry (or Golden Geometry) has a lot to do with proportions. We know it doesn't make sense to measure anything because units of measurement aren't universal. So what we're really talking about is the relationship between two things. Here's one way this plays out (it may help to draw this as we go along). Let's draw a 5-pointed star - point facing up. Inside the star is a pentagon (point facing down). If we connect all the points, we have a bigger pentagon (point facing up). Let's take a few measurements. Let's measure horizontally along one leg of the star - and call that 1 unit (it can be one inch, on millimeter, one mile, it doesn't matter. Now let's measure, again horizontally, across the small pentagon side. If the first measurement was 1 unit, this one is 0.618 units. Now let's measure horizontally along the bottom leg. We get 1.618 units. Interesting...
Now let's change our units. This time, let's assign a measurement of 1 unit to the side of the small pentagon. When we measure the leg of the star, we get 1.618. When we measure the leg of the large pentagon, we get 2.618. All very interesting.
The ratio of 1:1.618 (or 0.618:1) has been considered very sacred. When we look at the great cathedrals of Europe, we can see they all employed this ratio in the proportions of windows (height to width), ceilings, walls, domes, etc. There was something magical about this number.
In nature, the proportion of 1:1.618 is found in many places - the size of one chamber of a chambered nautilis compared with the adjacent one.
In gem work I use this ratio to build facets in the gems. This ratio is used to set up a relationship between one side of a facet and the other, or one tier of facets and the next.
In other work I do - architecture, for example, I will proportion work areas in this way, or room sizes or window sizes. It's a very good way to establish proportions that people are comfortable around because they are natural proportions.
Anyway, that's the short course on Sacred Geometry. There's much more to it of course.
Interesting note: The Ark of the Covenant (and tabernacle) and Noah's Ark are the only objects in the Bible that are dimensioned. God's instructions to Moses said the Ark of the Convenant was 1-1/2 cubits by 1-1/2 cubits by 2-1/2 cubits. To establish the proportions of length to width, we divide 2-1/2 by 1-1/2 and get 1:1.666 (pretty close to 1:1.618). Looking to Noah's ark, 50 cubits wide by 30 cubits high, we do the math and 1:1.666. Hmmm... Did God realize He was giving the EXACT same proportions?
So, I kinda love this stuff. Hope it isn't boring to everyone here.
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| Apr 15, 2006 @ 11:49 PM |
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Empath
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I don't find it boring at all......mostly I find it fascinating, but it takes me awhile to process it and come up with more questions. I have seen the pentagrams you speak of, but also a spiral type design that can be found on many snail shells.
How does Sacred Geometry relate to light, sound and emotion though? On one website I visited they put out a lot of technical info, but didn't connect the dots.
For example:
Fibbonacci number golden geometry Phi - consciousness
okay......I can honestly say.........I am lost. Pete, can you provide a map for that one?????? 
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| Apr 16, 2006 @ 11:29 AM |
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sweet_gal_in_ID
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Even though I've not been participating lately, I have been reading the posts, and all have been quite informative and interesting. Been busy with school assignments and fighting an ear and sinus infection. Yuck.
Anyways, I just wanted to pop in and say, "hi",  and wish everyone a
HAPPY EASTER!
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| Apr 16, 2006 @ 12:13 PM |
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Pete73052
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Fibbonacci number golden geometry Phi - consciousness
Another rushed day today.
Take a fibonacci number sequence. Let's do the first few:
3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233.
If you divide any of these numbers into the next highest number, you get our magic ratio - 1:1.618 (the higher you go in the sequence, the more accurate it gets). In olden days, a cubit was the length of the pharaoh's arm - elbow to fingertip. If you go look at the measurements of the Ark of the Covenant, you see that even with such crude measurements, 1-1/2 cubit x 2-1/2 cubits, God was shooting for this ratio. 1-1/2:2-1/2 = 3:5.
Pete
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| Apr 16, 2006 @ 7:15 PM |
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Empath
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Okay....that part I do understand...........however, how can it be related to conciousness? Or emotion, for that matter?
Happy Easter to you to, Sweet_gal.............and everyone else as well!!
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| Apr 17, 2006 @ 11:05 AM |
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Pete73052
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Okay....that part I do understand...........however, how can it be related to conciousness? Or emotion, for that matter?
That part gets more speculative, of course. I'll see if I can find some time tonight to write about it.
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| Apr 17, 2006 @ 2:45 PM |
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beachnutRU
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I am lost but facinated. hmmmm I like this stuff. Kinda like Engineering Spirituality.
Thanks.
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| Apr 17, 2006 @ 7:17 PM |
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sweet_gal_in_ID
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Hi all,
Haven't had much time to post lately with being ill and schoolwork, but wanted to pop in real quick.
Beach - Have you been able to get your hands on any amber?
Annie - You might check into reading a book called Introduction to Hermetics by Franz Barton. I believe it discusses astral projection, among other things. And no, it doesn't tell how The Great Carnac (the late Johnny Carson) was able to answer all of those hermetically-sealed questions. 
Scarletmerrow - Welcome! Glad to have you!
RE: Quantam Physics - There's a movie on DVD called What the Bleep Do We Know? Good and informative. It wasn't released in any major theaters, but played at smaller venues nationwide. Indigo Children is another good one.
Brave New World? The Celestine Prophospy is a new movie that's currently playing nationwide. Like What the Bleep Do We Know?, it isn't at any major theaters, but the website has a listing of where it's playing. It's based off of James Redfield's novel of the same name. http://www.thecelestineprophecymovie.com
SYNOPSIS
"If we pay attention, we can find a greater life, no matter where we are, no matter who we are, no matter what our circumstances are. If you tune into the mysterious coincidences in your life, if you discover and then follow your intuitions, you will find that there's a door of opportunity for a greater life for you. You can't be a victim and do it, but if you go beyond that, if you find a way out of whatever circumstance you're in, whatever block you think you might face, what happens is that it works. It always works. The only thing that holds any of us back is not believing that it works."
-- James Redfield
My church had a "sneak preview" of it this past Friday. It moves a little slow, but is well worth the time. It might last 1 1/2 hrs., if that. Most of it I was able to "get". Empath, as I was watching the movie, I kept thinking to myself that I wish you could see it. It's right up your alley. Maybe it will come out on DVD like What the Bleep... did.
I've read a few articles and books which make mention of our world evolving into one of love and light. This movie is based on that. Also there's a book called Mary's Message to the World by Annie Kirkland that addresses the New Age, Golden Age, etc. I find these things not only possible, but likely.
I hope this info is useful to some of you. Just wanted to share.
Peace to all.
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| Apr 18, 2006 @ 2:04 AM |
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Empath
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Engineering Spriituality....hmm....Spiritual Engineering....yep...I think we can make it fly....LOL.... 
Thank you for all the suggestions, Sweet_gal. It sounds like those movies are right up my alley, for I believe the Age of Spirituality is upon us. The idea of One Spirit within us all, accessible to all individually and collectively is gaining momentum, and I hope to push that snowball just a little faster, harder (Beach, BE GOOD now!),  and put a little more conviction behind it....
Annie, I have never known anyone that knew anyone that could do, or had seen that sort of thing outside of the movies! That is just SO COOL!!
Pete, take your time, Hon, we know you are busy...just glad to know you are still our encyclopedia!! j/k 
Have I missed anyone?? Probably, but I will catch up on the morrow. Hope everyone had a great EASTER... 
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| Apr 18, 2006 @ 2:31 AM |
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sweet_gal_in_ID
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"....and I hope to push that snowball just a little faster, harder (Beach, BE GOOD now!), and put a little more conviction behind it.... "
Would that be a Beach ball?
Sorry Empath, I couldn't resist!...and you didn't say anything about me being good. 
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| Apr 18, 2006 @ 2:40 AM |
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beachnutRU
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More fun with two........Sweet gal thanks for asking if I got Amber, no I haven't going tommorrow I hope. Bout got my fix for the night......toodles.
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| Apr 18, 2006 @ 2:48 AM |
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sweet_gal_in_ID
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More fun with two........
I'll just have to take your word for it!
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| Apr 18, 2006 @ 10:17 AM |
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beachnutRU
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oops I really didn't mean it like it appeared.......
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| Apr 18, 2006 @ 1:24 PM |
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Empath
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Okay....maybe I need to be good....never thought that this thread would be fun as well as interesting....and certainly never considered the possibility of ...well, I'm sure you guys know, right Beach and Sweet_gal???? 
My Morning Profundity
(is that even a word?)
Yes, I do have free will; however, there are lessons in this life that I am meant to learn, and if I choose the wrong path, life events always seem to detour me back to the lessons I have not yet learned on my chosen path. I don't believe it is possible to avoid those lessons, as at times I have found myself repeatedly taken back to the very same one I could have learned years ago! And they are always harder to learn later in life, and more painful when I don't 'get it' the first time around. Seems to me there is a lesson in this....
Any thoughts or discussion on this???
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| Apr 18, 2006 @ 5:57 PM |
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scarletmerrow
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I went to a group channeling session and was informed that we choose to incarnate onto the planet and that we choose our life plan and the lessons we set out to learn. And if we don't learn in this life time we'll have to come back and do it again with the same agenda. It was explained to us that that's how our soul becomes more developed. Ever heard the term "old" and "new" soul? She said we choose our spirit guides to help us while we're here on this planet. It sounded very familiar to me and I couldn't explain why. To me none of us will truly know until we die what the other side or realm is like.
Sweet Gal My oldest daughter is an Indigo child. They are very special souls on this planet. There are a couple of really good books on the subject. What the Bleep Do We Know is an awesome movie. I had to watch it twice and learned more the second time around. I Heart Huckabees[I] is another good one. It has a funny twist on Quantum Physics. Thanks for the welcome.
[B]Beachnut Thanks for the welcome as well. I've enjoyed reading your Reiki comments. I've taken Reiki I and II and want to take III soon.
Many Blessings to All
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| Apr 19, 2006 @ 9:58 PM |
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Pete73052
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I guess they moved our thread. I was starting to worry it got deleted - too much good stuff in here.
Scarlet said:I went to a group channeling session and was informed that we choose to incarnate onto the planet and that we choose our life plan and the lessons we set out to learn. And if we don't learn in this life time we'll have to come back and do it again with the same agenda. It was explained to us that that's how our soul becomes more developed. Ever heard the term "old" and "new" soul? She said we choose our spirit guides to help us while we're here on this planet. It sounded very familiar to me and I couldn't explain why. To me none of us will truly know until we die what the other side or realm is like.
It probably sounded familar to you because it's the new-age stuff that's been going around since the '60's. Not that it's all necessarily wrong, but it's pretty much, once you've learned what you said above, you're done. There's much more to it than that, IMO.
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