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| May 18, 2006 @ 1:49 PM |
John Lennon - A Dreamer, A Spiritualist or A Rebel
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sail_dancer
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I always thought that Imagine by John Lennon was the spiritualist theme song.
IMAGINE by John Lennon
Imagine there's no heaven
Its easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today
Ah....
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace
You...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will live as one.
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You....
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll joins us
and the world will live as one.
What do you think, was John a dreamer, spiritualist or revolutionary?
Could a world like this ever exist?
Would you be able to live in a world like this?
I believe that John Lennon was all three. You have to be somewhat of a dreamer to establish contact with the God's Spirit World, it helps to be a spiritualist or flexible in your beliefs and if you try to spread a spiritual message you are a rebel.
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| May 18, 2006 @ 1:56 PM |
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omkeerpunt
Posts: 511
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A good composer...
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| May 18, 2006 @ 2:03 PM |
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sail_dancer
Posts: 8,495
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omkeerpunt,
That is the shortest reply I've seen from you in the forums.
You must have an opinion, so:
What do you think, was John a dreamer, spiritualist or revolutionary?
Could a world like this ever exist?
Would you be able to live in a world like this?
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| May 18, 2006 @ 2:12 PM |
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TiNkErGrRrRrR
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I think he was a little bit of all three...Could a world like this exist?..you know anythings possible..
Would I be able to live in a world like he describes?...Yes...because I too am a dreamer..
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| May 18, 2006 @ 2:15 PM |
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omkeerpunt
Posts: 511
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That is the shortest reply I've seen from you in the forums
If you can give your opinion in 3 words why use more?
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| May 18, 2006 @ 2:29 PM |
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omkeerpunt
Posts: 511
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Cold Turkey
John Lennon
Temperature's rising
Fever is high
Can't see no future
Can't see no sky
My feet are so heavy
So is my head
I wish I was a baby
I wish I was dead
Cold turkey has got me on the run
My body is aching
Goose-pimple bone
Can't see no body
Leave me alone
My eyes are wide open
Can't get to sleep
One thing I'm sure of
I'm in at the deep freeze
Cold turkey has got me on the run
Cold turkey has got me on the run
Thirty-six hours
Rolling in pain
Praying to someone
Free me again
Oh I'll be a good boy
Please make me well
I promise you anything
Get me out of this hell
Cold turkey has got me on the run
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Dreamer? Yea right... More like halucinations.
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| May 18, 2006 @ 2:51 PM |
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sail_dancer
Posts: 8,495
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Another John had some bad trips too. Read Revelations closely.
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| May 18, 2006 @ 2:57 PM |
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omkeerpunt
Posts: 511
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Here another:
Watching the Wheels
John Lennon
People say I'm crazy doing what I'm doing,
Well they give me all kinds of warnings to save me from ruin,
When I say that I'm o.k. they look at me kind of strange,
Surely your not happy now you no longer play the game,
People say I'm lazy dreaming my life away,
Well they give me all kinds of advice designed to enlighten me,
When I tell that I'm doing Fine watching shadows on the wall,
Don't you miss the big time boy you're no longer on the ball?
I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round,
I really love to watch them roll,
No longer riding on the merry-go-round,
I just had to let it go,
People asking questions lost in confusion,
Well I tell them there's no problem,
Only solutions,
Well they shake their heads and they look at me as if I've lost my mind,
I tell them there's no hurry...
I'm just sitting here doing time,
I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round,
I really love to watch them roll,
No longer riding on the merry-go-round,
I just had to let it go.
And his lady replies:
O' Sanity
Yoko Ono
It's only sane to be insane
Psychotic builds a castle
And neurotic lives in it
I don't know what to do with my sanity
When the world's at the verge of calamity
O' sanity, o' sanity
What am I to do with you
Drink up, shoot up, anything you please
But you're always standing behind me like a devil in hell
O' sanity, o' sanity
Why don't you let me go
Let go, let go, cut it out!
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| May 18, 2006 @ 3:23 PM |
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omkeerpunt
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Another John had some bad trips too. Read Revelations closely
Sail sorry to burst you bubble but all christians are high on the Holy Spirit.
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| May 18, 2006 @ 4:18 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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omkeerpunt if your view about this amazing man is so completely unenlightened, why did you bother to answer at all? 
the song cold turkey isn't about hallucinations, anyone who thinks so doesn't know anything about what John Lennon is about.
John Lennon is all three of what the OP put forth, and that is what made him the absolute hero and example to humanity that he was.
Do I think a world like Imagine is possible? Not now.
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| May 18, 2006 @ 4:43 PM |
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FeliciVagano
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Could a world like this ever exist? ...Would you be able to live in a world like this?
thinking it has been tried before....
In this classic story from the Old Testament of the Bible, the people of the Earth were building a colossal staged temple-tower...that would reach heaven. ... the purpose of the tower was to provide a common religious center as a rallying point, lest the people be scattered. The builders of the tower were in open defiance of God's command (Genesis 9:1) (53).
In the ninth chapter of Genesis, God commands Noah and his sons to "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth" (9:1 NAS)..... Humanity was to subjugate the untamed Earth by dispersing themselves.
The builders in Shinar banded together for a common ecumenical purpose. Genesis 11:6 suggests that this assembly would have given rise to projects of a purely secular nature. The people did not consider that their misguided enthusiasm may have been just a bit shortsighted. Considering the benevolent, omniscient knowledge of God it appears that the long-term consequences of the Tower of Babel might have resulted in a plight similar to the apostate state of humanity (Gen. 6:1-5) prior to the sanctifying flood of the entire Earth (Gen. 6:6-24).
.... God had promised Himself never to destroy the Earth with a flood again due to the disobedience of mankind (Gen. 8:20-22). God also made a covenant with Noah, his descendents and "every living creature," that He would never again destroy the Earth with a flood. Genesis 9:8-17 affirms that the rainbow serves as a personal reminder to God of His covenant.
Accordingly, God separated the people to different lands and languages to frustrate their self-destructive plans. Determined to stay faithful to His covenant, this was God's only merciful alternative in response to the tower. If the people were punished, it was a light affliction administered. The reproof was quite mild compared to the prior worldwide flood (Gen. 7:21-23). Similarly, the rebuke of God at Babel hardly parallels the subsequent fiery obliteration of Sodom and Gomorrah (Gen. 19:24-30).
Although at a casual glance this rebellion appears benign, it has been demonstrated that this autonomous or self-governing spirit would likely prove to be self-destructive. Willmington points out that the first person plural pronouns "us" and "we" occur no less than 5 times in this King James Version rendering of one sentence:
And they said, Go to, let us build us a city, and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth (Gen. 11:4) (50).
Nowhere in the entire passage referring to the Tower of Babel is there found the slightest indication that the builders considered God's will in their plans. The Bible goes to great lengths to confirm God's disdain for society's self-ruling ecumenical pursuits. The Psalmist writes of God's intervention into the affairs of humanity:
The LORD nullifies the counsel of the nations; He frustrates the plans of the peoples (Psalm 33:10 NAS).
...The Tower of Babel is extremely significant to the epic of the Bible. The story is much more than God indiscriminately interrupting an insignificant building project. The Tower of Babel marks the origins of the nations of the Earth.
edited for the link http://www.crystalinks.com/babylonian.html
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| May 18, 2006 @ 4:48 PM |
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FeliciVagano
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the song cold turkey isn't about hallucinations, anyone who thinks so doesn't know anything about what John Lennon is about
I lived thru the "Beatle" rise and fall...JL was not all that...
Cold turkey was him trying to get off drugs, including hashish and lsd...
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| May 18, 2006 @ 6:45 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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Felici I don't know if you're agreeing with me or not but that's what I was trying to say.
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| May 19, 2006 @ 12:47 AM |
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omkeerpunt
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Just to put things straight. I think this man was an extremely talented composer who abviously gave the world around him quite a bit of thought. Fact is he also tested everything this world had on offer. I loved his music but I will not put him on a pedestall as a superior being. He was just..... a good composer .
Then again his father clearly expected big things of him naming him after Winston Churchill. The beatles must have been a big shock to this poor misguided old man. I do have to apologize to all the offended people out there. I just had to have some fun with Sails words. After all he left me a gap as big as a barn door.
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| May 19, 2006 @ 10:02 AM |
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sail_dancer
Posts: 8,495
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omkeerpunt,
Just to put things straight. I think this man was an extremely talented composer who abviously gave the world around him quite a bit of thought. Fact is he also tested everything this world had on offer. I loved his music but I will not put him on a pedestall as a superior being. He was just.....
I did not try and put him on a pedestal, what I said was:
I believe that John Lennon was all three. You have to be somewhat of a dreamer to establish contact with the God's Spirit World, it helps to be a spiritualist or flexible in your beliefs and if you try to spread a spiritual message you are a rebel.
I expected reactions like yours. That's why I started the thread. It just shows how touchy non-spiritualist can get to harmless questions. If you're that insecure in your beliefs to react like that, I feel sorry for you.
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| May 19, 2006 @ 10:31 AM |
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omkeerpunt
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It just shows how touchy non-spiritualist can get to harmless questions
Sail did you miss the humor in ALL of that. I know enough about you to understand how to tease you and that I did. Beware it should probably happen again for no other reason that that I actually like you. Lighten up brother.
(Edit) Lets go play with Uncrazy. He has a nice thread asking a sensible question going.
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| May 19, 2006 @ 3:35 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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Sail, I was the one who "put him on a pedestal". How can I not? It comes so naturally to me. John is my hero, the only human being I could ever put in that position...well, I might be able to put George Lucas in that position, too, but that's beside the point.
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| May 19, 2006 @ 9:01 PM |
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ejdb
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I see John Lennon a being all three, and though i disagree with alot of his ideas or what he espoused, i think that basically, he was a good man trying to make sense of an insane world.
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| May 20, 2006 @ 10:56 AM |
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kattsmeow
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John Lennon was just another human being with tremendous(sp) talent.
He definately was a dreamer too. I believe he was trying to find his place in the world and left it before he ever did.(find it.)
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| May 20, 2006 @ 11:34 AM |
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sail_dancer
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Lets try to get back on topic. The purpose of this thread was to get opinions on the world described in the lyrics of "IMAGINE by John Lennon".
Could a world like this ever exist?
Would you be able to live in a world like this?
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