| Jun 2, 2006 @ 4:02 AM |
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omkeerpunt

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In a recent thread several people testified that they felt ill at ease with some topics, to the point where they felt themselves compelled to withdraw from posting. Personally I experienced it as a warning of danger and litterally immediately after reacting on this warning I sensed this uneasy feeling inside disappearing.
This made me think again about how we hear or experience God's voice. Can we develop a greater sensitivity for hearing Him? Are there more similarities (than mentioned in opening) in how we hear Him and what are they? What does the bible say about this?
Let us hear your comments.
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| Jun 2, 2006 @ 9:45 AM |
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ServantOfChrist2


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Omkeerpunt, I think that's a concern each of us should remain conscious of.
Each morning, included in my prayers is the request that He bless me with spiritual discernment and guidance. I make myself available to do His will, (even at the risk/expense of denying myself.
With Him doing the guiding, it is not often that I find myself in situations like you have out-lined.
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| Jun 2, 2006 @ 9:41 PM |
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dsma

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I believe I hear God's voice more clearly than I ever have. Even in minor everyday things I hear him guiding me. I hear him a lot at my job. I find when I don't follow what I think he said, it goes wrong. So I learn everyday to just listen and follow, no matter how crazy it may seem.
I think the one thing we need to remember to hearing God's voice is he will never tell us to do something that is against his Word. That is the measuring tool I use. Also, if I'm a little bit unsure what to do. I just wait and the answer will come.
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| Jun 3, 2006 @ 9:27 AM |
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mailorderannie

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Omkerpunt: I'm glad you brought this up, because I felt this way several weeks ago in this forum and had to stop reading in here. I didn't feel the danger you spoke about, but I got so confused and anxious about everything I feel that I KNOW in my heart is right that I couldn't handle it anymore so had to leave. Funny that I chose this time to pop back in here. And just for the record, it was not the spirtualist view points but the strong Christian viewpoints that were causing me the most amount of anxiety.
I had an AHA moment though during that time that also filled me with a peace and it was this.....God made us as individuals, He knows who we truly are and He knows how to reach each and every one of us on THAT individual basis. He wants to have a relationship on who He made us to be. I Know, I know many of you will disagree with me ...and this thread is NOT the place to argue this point.
The test for me to know if something is true or not is that sense of peace I get about it in my heart. God not only speaks to me in my brain, but right there in the middle of my chest too...hard to explain, but there is an aaaaahhhh feeling that accompanies truth. I've almost heard the voice there before I've heard it in my head.
Thanks again for opening this thread.
Edited to add: I just made one other post on another thread trying to defend my point, and the anxiety is starting again. I can't handle it....I'll see you people on the other threads...I can't stay in the religion section.
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| Jun 3, 2006 @ 11:12 AM |
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sail_dancer


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Annie,
Couldn't have said it better myself.
I just made one other post on another thread trying to defend my point, and the anxiety is starting again. I can't handle it....I'll see you people on the other threads...I can't stay in the religion section.
We'll miss you Annie. Drop by now and then to say hello.
Peace
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| Jun 3, 2006 @ 12:11 PM |
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kattsmeow

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Annie:The test for me to know if something is true or not is that sense of peace I get about it in my heart. God not only speaks to me in my brain, but right there in the middle of my chest too...hard to explain, but there is an aaaaahhhh feeling that accompanies truth. I've almost heard the voice there before I've heard it in my head.
This how it is with me too.
A calm peacefulness comes over me and I smile.
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| Jun 3, 2006 @ 3:40 PM |
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introspective1

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According to what I have read in the Bible, God speaks to us mostly in a voice, as most of the biblical references are as such. Here are a few....
Adam heard the voice of God Gen 3:8
Israel heard a voice (one out of the midst of fire) Exodus 19:19, Deut 4:12
Moses heard the call of God Exodus 3:4
Ezekiel heard a loud voice Ezekiel 9:1 and the noise of many waters Ezekiel 43:2
Elijah heard a still, small voice IKings 19:12
Daniel had a vision in which he heard the voice of a multitude Daniel 10:5-12
Peter, James and John heard a voice from heaven Matt 17:5
Peter had a vision in which he heard a voice Acts 10:13
Paul heard a voice Acts 9:3-7
John heard a voice as a trumpet Rev 1:10-12, Rev 4:1,
also a voice as a lion roaring Rev 10:3-8, and a great voice Rev 21:3.
I do believe God speaks to us all, but we must be in the mindset to receive the message and be still, listening for his voice. Also, I think as we obey the voice of God, we become ever more sensitive to it and hear it more often. And yes, it is always in line with his word, that is a good rule to follow. Has anyone ever heard it in a different way?
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| Jun 4, 2006 @ 2:15 AM |
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omkeerpunt

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I often experience that when struggling with a problem I am strangely drawn to a specific book or person where I will find unsolicited information on my problem. The other side of the coin is that I sometimes get this urge to speak to somebody about a specific subject and when I do I find that they have been struggling with some problem relating to what I wanted to say to them. Sometimes these people are complete strangers.
A friend of mine who's wife is an alcoholic took his daughter out for a ride to get her out of the house when things were particularly bad. On the road somebody waved him down (and in South Afica you dont stop if this happens unless you want to lose your car or life). He told me that only after some minutes he knew that he had to speak to this person and turned around. The guy was still at the same spot patiently waiting for him. His story was that earlier that day he was standing in a christian book store and on seeing a book about alcoholism he received a message that he was to give this book to somebody he will meet on the road that day. What transpired on the road that day changed the lives of everybody in my friends family.
The message however received will always be testable by the word of God and will always be towards saving and/or serving people with Gods love.
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| Jun 4, 2006 @ 6:50 AM |
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ServantOfChrist2


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Good morning Omkeerpunt.
After reading a few of the other posts here, I find that I don't want to leave the impression that His voice has not been heard for a while. That certainly is not accurate.
He is not a stranger.
No, rather what I was inferring was that while He has been increasing my sensitivity to hear His voice, He also has kept me almost completely sheltered in His love.
And I do give thanks for this. I understand how great is His blessing.
My eyes are open wide though.
Many, many Christians living elsewhere, (even some living close to me, undoubtedly many of you), face persecution and other spiritual trials far more often than I do.
Sometimes I wonder how I would/will respond when I find myself on the battlefield.
Daily I put on the Armour of God: Ephesians 6:10-18.
I understand as a Christian, that daily I will engage in warfare.
I am grateful for many things.
Among these things is the great joy given me every day.
It gives me pause to wonder how would I respond to the hardships faced by others? Would I be sufficiently strong? Or would I sell-out, and casually toss my friendship with Jesus Christ aside?
I admire those who suffer for His name's sake.
I pray that such spiritual strength is mine when the time comes.
God bless you.
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| Jun 4, 2006 @ 2:48 PM |
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bevrice

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Great posts intro, omkee, servant. So true intro, the only way to know the truth is to test the spirit. False spirits can imitate God and bring a false peace, but God's spirit is always true to the word. Anyone who worries about the spirit that speaks to them need only accept Jesus as their Lord, pray in Jesus name and ask for a baptism of the Holy Spirit.
It is all right to claim to be a spiritualist, but spiritualist and Christian are not even in the same ball park because the Bible expressly forbids communicating with the dead, it is called necromancy, and can get you into all kinds of trouble and deceptions. You can't be both a Christian and spiritualist.
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| Jun 4, 2006 @ 5:05 PM |
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Angel54214

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There is one special scripture I so adore! Psalms 23
1 The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.
4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.
How can one hear, but not listen? Why do we not take time out in the green pastures where serenity thrives and the calming waters rest?
If we block out all the noise man makes and welcome the sweet sounds of God, then we open the door that is the barrior between man and God, then all can be heard of his voice that nurtures our very soul of his true free gift of love.
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| Jun 4, 2006 @ 5:13 PM |
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sail_dancer


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Angel,
Excellent post
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| Jun 5, 2006 @ 5:41 AM |
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scorpiojoe

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Maybe people who hear God's voice are simply experiencing phychosomatic auditory hallucinations as a result of deep-seated core beliefs and convictions held by that particular individual.
Just a thought.
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| Jun 5, 2006 @ 6:28 AM |
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omkeerpunt

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Joe when I heard or experienced Him first my broken body was being kept alive by a ventilator some hours after my family was killed in a car accident. I never believed in this God up to then and certainly had no reason to like Him or want Him at that particular moment. I could even have laughed it off as a hallucination but having once experienced Him He kept on returning and His presence ultimately led me away from the path of selfdestruction that my mind had by then already chosen.
But that is just my experience.
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| Jun 5, 2006 @ 10:27 AM |
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DawolfLover

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Bev were you referring to people that call themselves spiritual? or spiritualists?
If you are referring to those of us that call ourselves spiritual you are a little misunderstood about some of us. At least personally I call myself spiritual simply because I don't believe in some of the Christian teachings. But I most certainly believe in God. I read the Bible and understand what is said and sometimes realize it doesn't match up with some of the Christian teachings, hence the reason I seperate myself from that crowd. I don't talk to false spirits and my prayers are directly to God, not Jesus. You know I enjoy talking with everyone on here and I have nothing but love for everyone. But I just want people to understand the difference in labels isn't always clear.
Don't take this part too seriously it is only meant to gain understanding. Talking to dead people is necromancy and is considered very bad according to the Bible. Isn't Jesus dead?
Rock on and have a great day, i'm off to work.
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| Jun 5, 2006 @ 10:48 AM |
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sail_dancer


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scorpiojoe,
Maybe people who hear God's voice are simply experiencing phychosomatic auditory hallucinations as a result of deep-seated core beliefs and convictions held by that particular individual.
I agree with this but not the way you may want me to agree.
Some people, without deep -seated core beliefs, like omkeerpunt, have found a new meaning to life by hearing God's message directly. God does not need religion to do his work, he is constantly calling out to us.
There are many people however that do not hear his call directly, and in their search for God, have relied on various religions to help them see the way. The problem is that many truly just follow like sheep and do not use God's gifts to us to establish a direct link to Him. But there are also many poeple that as a result of deep-seated core beliefs and convictions have found that true link to God.
So the message and the map to God is there for people that wish to find it. They may find it in Hebrew teachings, Christian teachings, or Muslim teachings. They may also get lost in their religious beliefs, and only follow doctrine and not God's word.
So is an organized religion needed for a person to hear God's word? No, it's not needed. But for many people it is needed to help them see the light.
Peace
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| Jun 5, 2006 @ 1:19 PM |
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kattsmeow

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Don't take this part too seriously it is only meant to gain understanding. Talking to dead people is necromancy and is considered very bad according to the Bible. Isn't Jesus dead?
No.
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| Jun 5, 2006 @ 2:20 PM |
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bevrice

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Amen, kat, He AROSE from the dead and ascended bodily into heaven, Thomas stuck his hand in the wound in Jesus's side.
Wolf, yes, pray to God, the Bible says to ask it of the Father in Jesus name. There is a great difference between being spiritual and a spiritualist, wolf, namely the speaking to and listening to advice that comes from channeling or mediums, which is what they used to be called, from spirits that will never proclaim or worship Jesus is Lord, and they won't.
Christian teachings should always agree with the Bible, wolf, if they don't they are not Christian teachings.
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| Jun 5, 2006 @ 2:56 PM |
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sail_dancer


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Bev,
Christian teachings should always agree with the Bible, wolf, if they don't they are not Christian teachings.
I agree with you but have to qualify it:
1. not your interpretation of the bible.
2. without changing words in verses
3. without the need of bible school that teaches "white is only white sometimes, there are times when white means black".
Peace
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| Jun 5, 2006 @ 4:18 PM |
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bevrice

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Sail, sorry, but you are the one who takes the words out of context and really doesn't understand what the word says. Doesn't it strike you odd that the spirit filled people who are Christians all agree on the things we speak of?
Now, I am sure you can find other spiritists that are fed by other spirits that will agree with you, but we who have spent our life, who have dedicated our lifes to serving Him are in agreement.
I am not going to judge you, but if you truly seek the truth, sail, there is ONE way to get it. Receive Jesus as your Lord and savior, and ask for a baptism of the Holy Spirit. Then when you read the word, ask the Holy Spirit to instruct you and to lead you into all truth, to give you the true meaning of the word.
Not a single Christian changed the word to suit themselves, but rather, each one spoke of the truth and what the word says and took it in regard to the scriptures surrounding it.
Don't you think the Holy Spirit is much better qualified to teach and instruct you than some channeled spirit, sail?
Satan takes the word and twists the meanings just enough so they still sound true but are very far from the truth, far enough away from the truth as to endanger your salvation, sail.
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