| Jul 7, 2009 @ 11:29 AM |
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CPUfan
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Yes, it was truly creepy Deb. Women were afraid to go out after dark anywhere in W Yorks at the time. New lighting had to be installed in frequented public areas so few were left dark. Even with new lighting all around the campus and the Technical College areas, he still managed to ambush that poor student. She lived just twenty yards from the pub in a fairly shadowy back alley. He was waiting for her behind a gate between the pub and her bedsit. No one heard a sound. Apparently he had tracked her and his MO was well-planned. It was truly a sickener and years went by before he was found.
The police had already pulled him in on two separate occasions. He was a lorry driver who drove long-distance through Europe and the questioning procedure had not revealed anything suspicious on either occasion. He was finally caught in a roadblock with the tools of the trade in his cab, along with numerous different blood traces in the carpeting.
For years the police set up roadblocks and checked vehicles all over the region. It was one such check that finally solved the case. Sadly, several more girls died after the second time he was interviewed, but there was absolutely no evidence against him when he was interviewed (in routine enquiries) and he seemed very mild-mannered, respectful and polite !!!
The name of the case came from the original 'Jack the Ripper' from London, on account of the striking similarities.
It wasn't something we cared to be associated with in our region though. It really was a terrible case.
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| Jul 7, 2009 @ 1:25 PM |
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Thor1960303
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I almost killed myself because of this foul belief. I had headaches and depression because of hellfire. Please, SOC and SL, at least study the words gehena, hades and tartarus before you say you know there is an eternal hellfire for unbelievers. The evidence against hellfire is much greater than the so called evidence for it. I could send you links if you want to look further.
I know what you're talking about, Deb. I've heard preachers talk about hell like they were born and raised there. Then you have these idiot churches on Halloween that have haunted houses, not the kind we had fun in as kids, but these horrid plays where they have bloodied actresses portraying women dying on an operating table while having an abortion and waking up in helll. The sick thing is, they encourage children to watch this sick crap.
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| Jul 7, 2009 @ 2:21 PM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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Hi Deborah. 
Cool off a bit. You misunderstand me. And from what I know of southernlass, you misunderstand her too.
You are mistaken to believe that either of us gets any pleasure at all from letting you know that the path your actions + beliefs are leading you along, will certainly take you to destruction.
It is not the Christian way to gloat. 
In His last commandment, Jesus instructed His followers in Matthew 28:20--"and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
Some people trying to pass themselves off as Christians might very well gloat and do other unGodly things. But you are incorrect in believing that they represent true Christianity.
That is simply untrue.
So rather than taking that stance, why don't you instead try to see Christian words telling you of impending doom, to be words of warning.
Or are you able to see into the hearts of men + women? If this is an unChristian gift you believe that you possess, then let me enlighten you about something: this ability of your's is leading you astray.
Personally it gives me no pleasure to give you such information of your certain doom. I'm only telling you what the Bible says about the destination your present path will lead you to.
I am not a know-it-all. Far from it. (I have made many posts in the past expressing a humble status.)
But I have been learning quite a bit about the Bible in the past 18-19 years. The information I post should be regarded as explanations of the words of the Bible.
I do understand that the words I post will often bite a little. My words might sting a bit.
I would never assume to create revisions of Biblical things though.
That would be a sin. ]
If you suspect that any Christian is telling you anything that is not Biblical--for their own gain, you might want to remind them of this verse.
Revelation 22:19--"And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophesy, God will take away from Him his share in the tree of life and in the Holy city, which are described in this book."
I have enough things in my own life to consume my thoughts. It'd be silly for me to add to that total by worrying about your life too.
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| Jul 7, 2009 @ 3:13 PM |
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iam01
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Personally it gives me no pleasure to give you such information of your certain doom. Haven't you been personally doomed in this life?
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| Jul 7, 2009 @ 3:29 PM |
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iam01
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SOC
Haven't you been personally doomed in this life? Can we go over those details which helps explain your delusional fantasies of doom and much more?
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| Jul 7, 2009 @ 3:32 PM |
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j_goose
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Revelation 22:19--
"And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophesy, God will take away from Him his share in the tree of life and in the Holy city, which are described in this book."
Using this quote and applying it to the entire Bible is wrong, SoC.. It only applies to the Book of Revelations.
Each book found in the bible was its own entity (that is, they stood alone and independent from each other) and were not compiled into "One" book until waaaaaay after John wrote those words.
Now. take a looksee at Deuteronomy 4:2
"Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.""
This quote speaks of the ten commandments and the OT mosiac law.  Didn't Jesus (according to christians) get rid of mosiac law? Don't they always quote Jesus' words of "I have not come to destroy the law, but to fulfill."?
Oh, and to add to the Revelations quote.
IIf nothing is to be removed from the bible, (If you insist on using this quote for the entire bible) then who's responsible for the following books being removed? They're all mentioned within scripture....
The Book of the Genealogy of Adam
The Book of the Wars of Yahweh
The writings of Jashar
The prophet Nathan
Gad the Seer.
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| Jul 7, 2009 @ 3:55 PM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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Okay. Thanks Goose.
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| Jul 7, 2009 @ 3:59 PM |
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iam01
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SOC
Tell us about the reasons for your own personal doom fantasies. Is it because you personally are doomed and have fantasies about others suffering as you have?
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| Jul 7, 2009 @ 4:13 PM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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And no. You are mistaken hammertime-iam #2. My life in the present tense is incredibly blessed. It is through the challenging and difficult situations that we grow spiritually as we learn.
The person who goes through life without hardships of any kind will remain spiritually immature. That person has no reason to grow. No reason to change.
But when the storms of life hit them, they will be unprepared to deal with the problems.
Sorry if I have been unclear about this. 10-20 times a day I'm blessed with giggle-producing thoughts. While things still occur in my life that I would rather not experience, the sad + unpleasant things are far outweighed by joyful things. 
I really thought I had made myself clear that my life is truly blessed??
Certainly not doomed. I've never expressed that thought. (And if you have such a quote on speed-dial, you're taking it out-of-context.) (Which you know full-well.)
But you are absolutely mistaken. I have not been personally doomed in this life.
What an absolutely absurd thing to say. 
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| Jul 7, 2009 @ 4:18 PM |
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j_goose
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<--------------------------------(is a doomed heathen)
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| Jul 7, 2009 @ 4:26 PM |
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iam01
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SOC didn't you say you hallucinated a conversation with God? Haven't you recently said you were brain damaged and partly psychotic? Haven't you isolated yourself from women over 25 years and haven't held a paying job for that long too too? Sounds like doom to me. Given those events, you take no personal responsibility but you do fantasize about others being doomed and for eternity. Haven't you also said you'd stone a woman if God told you?
I'm just trying to understand why you actually do take pleasure in saying things like
Personally it gives me no pleasure to give you such information of your certain doom.
Did you also read Anaastatis posts about the Virginia Tech killer being justified in killing 32 people and that many more should have died? Do you feel a connection with Christians like him?
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| Jul 7, 2009 @ 4:47 PM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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You amuse me hammertime. Until I think of what awaits you after you die though.
You so often try to provoke me. Hoping that in my anger I'll say something stupid, (as I frequently do). Then you'll be able to snap-up my words and play them back for us some time in the future.
Why are you so intent on illustrating your need to bring others down? What good does this do for you?
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| Jul 7, 2009 @ 4:49 PM |
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iam01
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I would be willing to illustrate my overwhelming love for God, by stoning the woman in-question. Why would you say this? You bring yourself down for saying such a thing.
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| Jul 7, 2009 @ 4:49 PM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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23 years hammertime. July 1986.
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| Jul 7, 2009 @ 4:52 PM |
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iam01
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Why would you tell Deborah she was doomed to hell? Why would you even believe in such religious fantasies and have such delusions if it didn't compensate your own inadequacies in some way?
Why would you bring yourself down by saying?
I no longer need to employ either knowledge or logic in my life. I do not need to employ/use either logic or reason and then expect anyone to respect anything you say that doesn't come from knowledge, logic or reason?
Also, why would say you had no desire to learn about Temporal Lobe Epilepsy? Was it that part of the brain that was affected? Wouldn't you learn more about your hallucination of hearing God's voice whom you had a conversation with?
The real question is why won't Christians learn about their own brain, how it functions and how their dogma relies on aberrations of the brain's functioning? Many Christians here posted their hallucinations where they met Jesus and had a conversation with him. Hunt drove on the highway and picked up Jesus on the road. Isn't that a psychotic episode? Isn't it dangerous to hallucinate while driving? Didn't Bev see a bridge with two lanes turn into three lanes? Didn't she see someone's eyes change from blue to green to brown when they were being exorcised? These are hallucinations.
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| Jul 7, 2009 @ 5:10 PM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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I'm glad you asked me this question.
I would say such a thing because...
At the time we were having a conversation about faith. Then in your way, you manipulated the conversation, adding another condition after another.
I told you that according to the Bible, since the advent of Jesus Christ, (since His birth), things had changed.
But you kept at it.
You asked if I knew for sure that the voice I heard was God's, would I still stone the woman?
I told you that He does not instruct people to do such things anymore.
You would not relent though.
So you again asked, but if I knew for sure that the voice was God's, would I stone the woman??
I am as peaceful a person as imagineable, but meaning to illustrate the depth of my love for Jesus, (Who has given me so much), I stated that which you have gotten so much air-time out of. He has blessed every one of my days since July 1996. Perhaps my gratitude is something you are incapable of imagining.
Do these sound anything like your debating tactics??
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| Jul 7, 2009 @ 5:13 PM |
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iam01
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And yet with all those excuses you make now you still said I would be willing to illustrate my overwhelming love for God, by stoning the woman in-question. You have fantasies of doom and hell and torment for those are smart enough to brush off your religious delusions.
But the real question is what I posted above. To repeat....
The real question is why won't Christians learn about their own brain, how it functions and how their dogma relies on aberrations of the brain's functioning? Many Christians here posted their hallucinations where they met Jesus and had a conversation with him. Hunt drove on the highway and picked up Jesus on the road. Isn't that a psychotic episode? Isn't it dangerous to hallucinate while driving? Didn't Bev see a bridge with two lanes turn into three lanes? Didn't she see someone's eyes change from blue to green to brown when they were being exorcised? These are hallucinations.
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| Jul 7, 2009 @ 5:29 PM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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Okay...again hammertime I am glad you brought these things up.
Yes. I did say those 2 oft-repeated things you quote me as saying. (Again, hoping to get some laughs at my expense.)
The intentionality behind my words was nothing like what you have kindled them to mean.
"I no longer need to employ either knowledge or logic in my life.
I do not need to employ/use either logic or reason"
Yes. I did say both of these things. I said these things to illustrate the great love God has for me, (and all other Christians.)
I have also said on more than one occasion that although I may not need to employ either logic or reason, I still do use them both though. Several times I have confessed that my faith is not yet strong enough to assure me that He will look after things without my involvement. So I do continue to use both logic and reason.
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| Jul 7, 2009 @ 5:33 PM |
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iam01
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So the stronger your faith is, the less brain you need.
Or is it?
The less brain you have, the more faith you need....
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| Jul 7, 2009 @ 5:52 PM |
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sail_dancer
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Bottom line is that SOC loves his desert god and Jesus soooooooo much that he would kill for them and even go against his peaceful inclinations if they asked him to.
This is the sign of a very sick and unstable mind.
Peace
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