| Jun 28, 2006 @ 9:15 PM |
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Classy_Blonde
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I feel there needs to be some clarification about speaking in tongues. When many of us hear about such goings on, I believe the first thing we may think of is something like the 'Tower of Babel', and how evil it was. Because of this, there has been a misconception about speaking in tongues.
Now, I am quite aware, there are those who are attention getters, and they flop on the floor, and start writhing around, and they can look pretty silly. If you are in fine tune with the Lord, it is possible to understand the words. It is a gift. Not all have that gift. If you have the gift, and you cannot discern the words, they are not from God.
Let us keep in mind, in heaven, we will ALL understand one another. It is as it is with God. No matter what language we speak, He understands our prayers. There is a reason for everything, in the bible. So many things are very symbolic.
There are verses in the bible about speaking in tongues, and I am really trying to get some of you to familiarize yourselves with scripture, so please do some bible study. See if you can locate anything on this subject, and prove me wrong.
God Bless. 
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| Jun 28, 2006 @ 9:37 PM |
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kattsmeow
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The book of Acts and Romans I believe have a lot on this.
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| Jun 28, 2006 @ 9:40 PM |
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Angel54214
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Here is one Classy...
Day of Pentacost, Acts 2
1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
12 And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?
13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
They were speaking in other languages which the Holy Spirit gave them these gifts. The apostles then could go out into these lands and preach the word in those various languages.
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| Jun 28, 2006 @ 10:03 PM |
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Classy_Blonde
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5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
These two verses, for me, have much significance. Notice how ALL mankind is included in this. No one is left out. Heaven holds people from all walks of life.
Verse 6 reminds me of this. Have you ever talked to a person, or even read a post here in these forums, where you have NO CLUE what the person's meaning is? I have discovered such, when I am not on the same spiritual level as that person. God 'confounds' scripture, in the same manner. If you do not have the Holy Spirit in you, God deliberately 'confuses' the message. You do not have the key to unlock His word. That key is given, when you accept God for who He is.
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| Jun 28, 2006 @ 10:16 PM |
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kattsmeow
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Has anyone here spoke in tongues?
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| Jun 28, 2006 @ 10:29 PM |
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Classy_Blonde
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I haven't personally, katt. It almost seems to be becoming a thing of the past. I have a friend who attended such a church one time, but she decided to leave. Either she wasn't in the spirit, or they weren't, because she had no idea what they were saying.  
I think you have to be totally immersed in the Spirit, in order to hear. Bev knows more about this than I do, so I will let her explain on a more indepth level.
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| Jun 28, 2006 @ 11:04 PM |
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redhairNfreckles
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Being brought up Baptist their doctrine doesn't believe in speaking in tongues so I never was exposed to it. Both of my children and their families attend a Church of God and I visit their church whenever I'm in NC. The first time I ever heard someone speaking it, I happened to be in the pew in front of her! All I can say is they were the most beautiful words I've ever heard. Her voice was so gentle and as it would raise in praise (I'm sure that was what it was), the hair on my arms stood straight up! I listened carefully, and it sounded like some of the words were maybe Hebrew. Anyways, I enjoyed being in church that day and a special memory and blessing for me was given.
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| Jun 28, 2006 @ 11:33 PM |
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Humpe
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To keep to some facts about it (No I wasn't turning to the bible then).
Technically, this psychological phenomenon is known as glossolalia.
Non-Christian glossolalia predates the modern version considerably, being described in very ancient religions and known in primitive societies untouched by Christianity. It was known to Plato, who described it in use in his day: Greek and Roman oracles spoke in tongues. Virgil wrote, in the Aenead, Book Six, about a Roman Sibyl who babbled that way. Moslems embraced the idea, too.
More information here: http://www.randi.org/encyclopedia/glossolalia.html
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| Jun 28, 2006 @ 11:41 PM |
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redhairNfreckles
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Technically, this psychological phenomenon is known as glossolalia
Technically, I don't care what it's called.....I heard it, and I believe it...I still prefer to call it a blessing.
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| Jun 28, 2006 @ 11:58 PM |
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Angel54214
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I like the story about Simon in book of Acts 8; Simon was a sorcerer and was bewitched. But when came upon Philip and saw him preaching the kingdom of God and Jesus Christ, Simon also believed, so he was baptized. Then when he saw the apostles laying on the hands and the people receiving the Holy Spirit, Simon wanted to purchase the Holy Spirit with money!
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| Jun 29, 2006 @ 12:03 AM |
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redhairNfreckles
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^^^^^^ Maybe that's where we get the saying, "You can't buy your way into Heaven".....
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| Jun 29, 2006 @ 12:21 AM |
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Angel54214
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...and I believe your so right 'freckles'.. 
The apostles received the gift through the Holy Spirit of speaking in tongues so they were to go out to the nations and coverse with their languages for the conversion of faith in God and Jesus Christ, that lead to Holy baptism. The apostles received the power through the Holy Spirit to call out demons from the Samaritans for the conversion of faith and receive the Holy baptism. This was their works and instructions from Jesus when he returned after he rose from the grave and transformed.
The apostles were not teaching this speaking in tongues so others could, they had a job to do and it was done. This was the beginning of Christianity as taught by Jesus himself.
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| Jun 29, 2006 @ 12:30 AM |
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kattsmeow
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Tongues, can be your own personal language in prayer to God. In order to do this, the Holy Spirit comes into you and speaks, helping you to speak Gods language. In this, it doesn't need to be interpeted.
Now, if anyone in my church gets up on the pulpit and starts speaking in tongues,,it does need to have interpetation.
This is what I have come to know so far.
Yes, I spoke in tongues one time in my life. Not for very long, and I believe it is not one of my Gifts.
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| Jun 29, 2006 @ 1:20 AM |
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Classy_Blonde
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| Jun 29, 2006 @ 1:40 AM |
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SunBabe
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 Now I gotta go pee! 
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| Jun 29, 2006 @ 2:16 AM |
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kattsmeow
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this is Haban, too lazy to log out and back in again.
My spiritual background was Baptist as well, and our understanding was that if we had anything to say to God, we could just speak in our own language. But I was also open to the Holy Spirit being able to do anything today that He ever did "back then." I just hadn't had an experience of it.
Then a few weeks ago, during a worship service, it happened. I was praying and singing, and i began praying in Spanish, as I often do when I'm feeling very close to God (It's my birth tongue). Suddenly my mouth just began pouring out so much praise and love that I couldn't form words, my heart just came pouring out of me. It was a very special time, and has happened again often since then.
There's a story told about a poor, uneducated man during a time of worship. During the time when everyone was praying, the worship leader stood next to the poor man, and heard him reciting the alphabet. He went to him after the serivce was over, and asked what he had been doing. "Ah, sir, you know that I've never had any education. I don't know how to say a 'proper' prayer. So when I pray, I just give God the letters, and ask Him from my heart to make them something beautiful for Him."
Romans 8:26 " In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words".
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| Jun 29, 2006 @ 2:55 AM |
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SunBabe
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On a secular note, I clearly recall a conversation where the word "froosh" suddenly came out...and we both instantly recognized the intensity and depth of the l-o-v-e it represented -- no explaination, no definition..."froosh" -- it summed up a million things said and unsaid. Still does. (Doesn't mean we didn't giggle about it afterward  It was like there was an entire 'eternal mutual understanding' compacted between the "froo" and the "oosh"  )
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| Jun 29, 2006 @ 2:56 AM |
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Classy_Blonde
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You reminded me, there probably is a more formal way to pray. I am often very casual with God, as though we have always been friends (makes sense  ). I just kind of chit-chat sometimes. He knows what I'm getting at, so I don't worry about it too much.
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| Jun 29, 2006 @ 6:42 AM |
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bevrice
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Katt is right, they are your prayer language, they are available to all who will receive them, very few that seek them fail to get them. When spoken in propecy in the church, there must be a translator, not just because they are tongues, many times unknown tongues, but the tongues or angels, other languages, however the Holy Spirit moves through you, but because if it is not translated, the prophecy will be lost.
When the power Holy Spirit begins to move through a church or a person, tongues are usually the begining, it is evidence of His presence. Now, I don't see people who roll on the floor or make a spectacle of themselves. I have seen people weep and cry when under the unction of the Holy Spirit, but not so often.
Your prayer language? Who knows better how to pray for you than the Holy Spirit, or how to praise? When I begin, even as I sit here to pray in tongues and let the Holy Spirit have His way with me, I begin to see things and know things that were unknown to me before, I begin to get answers to people's prayers, answers that they are seeking.
For instance and woman in my church told me that her sister was ill and they wanted to do an operation, for us to pray for her sister. I began to pray in tongues, then I saw a woman lying on a bed with a wind up key right in the middle of her chest. I said, "Lord, I don't understand." Lol, he said, "Just go tell her what you saw, she will understand." I went over to her and told her what I had seen, and she began to smile and praise the Lord,she was amazed. The doctors wanted to put a pacemaker in her sister's heart. This one makes me smile.
Tongues are also an evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit. When you pray in tongues, and you must pray in tongues and in understanding. Ask for the translation to the prayers you pray in tongues.
Praying in tongues can bring such joy and peace to you.
When you intercede for someone and pray in tongues, sometimes great travail can come upon you, you can even experience the pain the person you are praying for is feeling. When this happens, you can be sure that they have had a miracle and been healed.
It is an awesome, amazing, wonderous thing to be used of the Holy Spirit.
Many people speak with the same tongues and you will hear them in a church and realize that they use the same words. This does away with that psycho babble stuff, these are people who have never been the same church together many times, or you may have another language or a different tongue than someone else.
Just ask for the baptism of the Holy Spirit and evidence of His presence, or ask for tongues if you have the Holy Spirit. There is no need to be afraid. Just pray, Father, if tongues are of you, and real, then I want them, in Jesus name. You will receive.
This is one of my favorite scriptures, for it points out the necessity of the baptism of the Holy Spirit:
Acts 19
Paul in Ephesus
1While Apollos was in Corinth, Paul traveled across the hill country to Ephesus, where he met some of the Lord's followers. 2He asked them, "When you put your faith in Jesus, were you given the Holy Spirit?"
"No!" they answered. "We have never even heard of the Holy Spirit."
3"Then why were you baptized?" Paul asked.
They answered, "Because of what John taught." [a] 4Paul replied, "John baptized people so that they would turn to God. But he also told them that someone else was coming, and that they should put their faith in him. Jesus is the one that John was talking about." 5After the people heard Paul say this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6Then Paul placed his hands on them. The Holy Spirit was given to them, and they spoke unknown languages and prophesied. 7There were about twelve men in this group
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| Jun 29, 2006 @ 11:19 AM |
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kattsmeow
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The Tower of Babel,,it was a tower that was being built all the way to Heaven.
God made them speak in different languages so they could not complete it.
I think anyway.
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