| Nov 6, 2006 @ 2:34 PM |
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Bj864
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This article thinks so.
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1162595434813&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154&t=TS_Home
It is a long article, but well worth reading. I will have to say that I pretty much agree with it, as far as the damage they have caused. I can't say with any certainty that their power has ended, but I sure hope they are right about that too.
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| Nov 6, 2006 @ 2:51 PM |
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EvoPsych
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http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/4022/brennusandhislootneocontv9.jpg
Self Explanatory..
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| Nov 6, 2006 @ 5:37 PM |
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spongebob777
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The latest scientific CNN poll shows that the Democratic Party has attained a 211% lead over the Republican Party as of the day before the 2006 midterm elections.
A detailed breakdown indicates that respondents on the Democratic side were divided into 2% unlikely to vote, 43% likely to vote once, 21% likely to vote twice, 14% likely to vote three times, 6% likely to vote more often, and 14% ineligible to vote but expected to do so anyway, for a weighted average tally of 191% of eligible voters. On the Republican side, none of the five GOP voters contacted indicated any intention of voting, and one indicated that he had persuaded a friend not to vote, for a weighted average of -20%.
When CNN finally reached someone in at the national Republican Party headquarters after several phone calls and visits indicated that the building had apparently been deserted for some time, an anonymous source told our reporter, "Yeah, we're gonna lose. I'm not going to bother voting, myself, even." 
Actually I don't like making predictions but I would say that a slight democrat majority in the house is likely but I'm no Nostradamas.
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| Nov 6, 2006 @ 6:17 PM |
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swingpup
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Are you talking about Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after sexually explicit emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy. 
And let's not forget
Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper was arrested for soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
How about
Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
Deputy Dog
Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt of one prisoner's report here and his full report here. This is a MUST SEE. 
http://www.armchairsubversive.com/
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| Nov 6, 2006 @ 9:59 PM |
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Always_Striving
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I believe that the
Gagging
Old
Poopie
party in on the way out. I would like more green party members to aquire political seats.
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| Nov 6, 2006 @ 10:23 PM |
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MotownManiax
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Yep, looks like the Neocons are kaput. 
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| Nov 6, 2006 @ 10:28 PM |
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spongebob777
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The crats are gonna take at least 800 seats in the house alone.
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| Nov 7, 2006 @ 12:06 PM |
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Bj864
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Yep, looks like the Neocons are kaput
I think so too. What is interesting is how they are now turning on each other. I think we are going to see more of that, no matter which party gets elected. The American people have turned against the war, so the blame game is now in process. Actually, I think it is needed.
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| Nov 7, 2006 @ 12:13 PM |
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MotownManiax
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Yep, they had their chance at global strategy and failed. It will be interesting who will replace them.
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| Nov 7, 2006 @ 8:25 PM |
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sealacamp
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If you really want to see some damage look at 45 years of what the majority of democrats did in this nation. Maybe looking at a realistic historcal perspective would hurt your feelings. Denial is a terrible thing.
What party were the biggest slave owners? What party denied voting rights to blacks? What party calls right wrong and wrong right even now? What party continues to insist that embronic stem cells will solve all our health problems despite research that contradicts that premise? The list goes on and on but maybe you can get a clue from that.
S
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| Nov 7, 2006 @ 8:32 PM |
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DoorWatcher
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Do you truly believe the neo-con's are more devout that the regular democrats? If I didn't believe that the left followed the red lettered words in the New Testament more sincerely, I wouldn't be on their side. But I do, and I am....
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| Nov 7, 2006 @ 10:59 PM |
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Bj864
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If you really want to see some damage look at 45 years of what the majority of democrats did in this nation. Maybe looking at a realistic historcal perspective would hurt your feelings. Denial is a terrible thing.
What party were the biggest slave owners? What party denied voting rights to blacks? What party calls right wrong and wrong right even now? What party continues to insist that embronic stem cells will solve all our health problems despite research that contradicts that premise? The list goes on and on but maybe you can get a clue from that.
S
I agree with one (and only one) part of your post. Denial is a terrible thing. Sometimes it is downright dangerous.
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| Nov 7, 2006 @ 11:17 PM |
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DoorWatcher
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What party worked the hardest to rectify societal evils? What party promoted civil rights, and still does? What party attempts to work for the common man and doesn't openly, blatantly adopt big business as their primary platform?
Can someone say 'Wasting their time with greedy heartless partisans?" 
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| Nov 8, 2006 @ 12:07 AM |
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Always_Striving
Posts: 8,794
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O.k. everyone.......WHO'S IN DA HOUSE?
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| Nov 8, 2006 @ 12:13 AM |
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SunBabe
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Hot off the press...
Democrats close in on control of House
By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer
8 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Democrats captured more than enough Republican-held districts Tuesday to win control of the House after a dozen years out of power as voters demonstrated their disenchantment with a war, a president and scandals on Capitol Hill.
With 19 victories in formerly GOP districts, if Democrats hold nearly all of their party's seats, they would clear the way for Rep. Nancy Pelosi (news, bio, voting record) to become the country's first female speaker. By late evening, no Democratic incumbent had lost.
"We are on the brink of a great Democratic victory," the California Democrat predicted.
Faced with the inevitable, the White House made plans for Bush to call Pelosi first thing Wednesday morning, and Republican Party Chairman Ken Mehlman said: "It's possible that Nancy Pelosi will become House speaker.".
"It's been kind of tough out there," conceded House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., who won a 11th term.
The magic number for control was 218 seats. By late Tuesday, Democrats had won 186 seats and were leading for another 34, which would give them 220. Republicans won 149 and were leading in 46.
Casualties of a Democratic call for change, three GOP congressmen lost in Indiana, three more in Pennsylvania, two in New Hampshire and one in North Carolina and one in Kansas. Democrats won open seats in New York, Arizona and elsewhere.
Scandals that have dogged Republicans on Capitol Hill appeared to hurt GOP incumbents even more than President Bush's unpopularity and the nearly four-year-old war in Iraq.
Republicans surrendered the Ohio seat once held by Bob Ney, who resigned after pleading guilty in a lobbying scandal, and the Florida district of Mark Foley, who stepped down after the disclosure that he sent sexually explicit messages to male congressional pages.
In Pennsylvania, Democrats defeated Curt Weldon in the fallout from a federal corruption investigation and Don Sherwood who admitted to a long-term affair with a much younger woman who says he choked her.
Midway through the evening, Pelosi, a grandmother five times over, briefly addressed a crowd of party faithful at an election-night fete at a Washington hotel.
"I thank all of you for taking us to where we are tonight," said Pelosi, who won an 11th term. As she left the stage, half the crowd started chanting "Madam Speaker" and the other shouting "Nancy, Nancy."
Ethics woes, the war and overall anger toward Bush appeared to drive voters to the Democrats, according to surveys by The Associated Press and the television networks of voters as they left voting places. Several traditionally hard-fought demographic groups were choosing Democrats, including independents, moderates, the middle class and suburban women.
Those early exit polls also showed that three in four voters said corruption was very important to their vote, and they tended to vote Democratic. In a sign of a dispirited GOP base, most white evangelicals said corruption was very important to their vote — and almost a third of them turned to the Democrats.
Two out of three voters called the war very important to them and said they leaned toward the Democrats, while six in ten voters said they disapproved of the war. About the same number said they were dissatisfied with the president — and they were far more likely to vote Democratic.
Additionally, eight in ten voters called the economy very important to their House vote, and those who said it was extremely important — about four in ten voters — turned to Democrats.
All 435 House seats were on the ballot, and most incumbents won easy re-election. The current lineup: 229 Republicans, 201 Democrats, one independent who lines up with the Democrats for organizational purposes, and four vacancies, three of them in seats formerly held by Republicans.
The fight for control came down to 50 or so seats, nearly half of them in a string stretching from Connecticut through New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana and Kentucky. All were in Republican hands, a blend of seats coming open and incumbents in trouble.
For months, national surveys have showed Democrats favored over Republicans by margins unseen since 1990 as voters have grown restless with the Bush administration and seemingly more ready for an end to one-party rule on Capitol Hill.
American casualties and costs have climbed in Iraq, and public support for the war has fallen, as have approval ratings for Congress along with the president.
In addition, GOP. Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas, was charged with participating in a campaign finance scheme, and he resigned from the House. Ney, R-Ohio, resigned, too, after pleading guilty in the Jack Abramoff influence-peddling investigation. A month before the election, Foley, R-Fla., stepped down when it was disclosed that he had sent sexually explicit electronic communications to former congressional pages.
Through it all, Democrats cast the race as a national referendum on Bush and Iraq, accusing Republicans of walking in lockstep with the president and rubber stamping his policies.
[Edited on 11/8/2006 12:16 AM]
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| Nov 8, 2006 @ 12:15 AM |
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SunBabe
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Republicans insisted the elections came down to choices between individual candidates from coast to coast — and that Democrats were liberals who would raise taxes, flee from Iraq and be soft on terrorists.
Initially, Democrats targeted GOP-held seats left open by retiring Republicans as well as districts where Bush won by close margins in 2004 — many in the Northeast and Midwest. In recent weeks, Democrats have been able to expand the battlefield, making plays for seats long in Republican hands, such as in Wyoming and Idaho.
The GOP, defending its majority, made serious bids for only a handful of Democratic-held seats, including two districts in Georgia that the Republican legislature redrew to make more hospitable to the GOP.
As the 2006 midterm election cycle began, Republicans were optimistic that they would be able to extend their reign because they had limited the number of GOP retirements, leaving fewer open seats that would be targets for Democrats.
Then violence increased in Iraq and scandals erupted in the House — knocking the GOP off course.
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| Nov 8, 2006 @ 12:49 AM |
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Always_Striving
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Now maybe impeach the president and vice president and all the administration responsible for F-ing over our country, the U.S. of A., and the world then put them on trial for treason to face the maximum penalty allowed.
Let the new female speaker of the house become the next president. 
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| Nov 8, 2006 @ 7:33 PM |
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suzieq0808
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^^^^^^^^^^ Yep!! What he said!!
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| Nov 8, 2006 @ 7:35 PM |
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SunBabe
Posts: 12,279
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That makes a whole lot more sense and more timely than blaming Democrats for slave ownership
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| Nov 8, 2006 @ 7:38 PM |
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irish20835
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Pelsoi president??
The grouper i had for dinner is coming up 
Pelosi to republican's is what pat robertsen is to democrats ..imagine him as president and ya know the feeling
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