| Dec 26, 2006 @ 12:22 PM |
30 days and a rope for Sadman
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Jankia
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BAGHDAD (Reuters) - An Iraqi appeals court on Tuesday upheld
Saddam Hussein's death sentence for crimes against humanity and said he should hang within 30 days.
"The appeal court has approved the death sentence. They (the government) has the right to choose the date starting from tomorrow up to 30 days. After 30 days it will be an obligation to implement the sentence," the head of the Iraqi High Tribunal, Aref Abdul-Razzaq al-Shahin, told a news conference.
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| Dec 26, 2006 @ 12:23 PM |
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nightrider3281
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too bad it isn't today
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| Dec 26, 2006 @ 12:23 PM |
30 days and a rope for Sadman
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ravensday
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Sucks to be him right about now!
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| Dec 26, 2006 @ 12:24 PM |
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budo13
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cover him in lard first then hang him 
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| Dec 26, 2006 @ 4:26 PM |
30 days and a rope for Sadman
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irish20835
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can't come quick enough . 
can't wait to see the Bush bashers try to come up with excuses to save him 
ya know I was having dinner with my best freind ...I vet of the Iraq war ....he was telling me that Saddam is one of the single worst enviromental offenders of all time ...that alone should garner support for his hanging from the left
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| Dec 26, 2006 @ 5:16 PM |
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Jankia
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Irish-Maybe Muhammad told the Glorious Leader that after the Democrats take over the Senate and the House of Representatives in January he will be freed to once again care for his people.Bush bashers cant possibly be infidels...right? 
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| Dec 26, 2006 @ 5:24 PM |
30 days and a rope for Sadman
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EvoPsych
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Watch...they'll swing him right before the State of the Union Address.
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| Dec 26, 2006 @ 6:09 PM |
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spongebob777
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*SNAP*
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| Dec 26, 2006 @ 6:12 PM |
30 days and a rope for Sadman
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Jankia
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If he spurs the horse himself will that make a martyr out of him?
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| Dec 26, 2006 @ 6:25 PM |
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spongebob777
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ya know I was having dinner with my best friend ...I vet of the Iraq war ....he was telling me that Saddam is one of the single worst environmental offenders of all time
Yeah I've thought about that a few times. Saddam used to show off diseased Iraqi children and blame it on the USA and sanctions. He never mentioned the fact that he was the reason humanitarian aid wasn't reaching the people or that he was building, storing, and dumping chemical weapons in close proximity to the people.
I read a story a few days ago about the fact that the "marsh Arabs" were returning to their homes in the south. This is due in part to the fact that we destroyed dams during the war and in part due to military engineers deliberately releasing the water back into those areas.
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| Dec 26, 2006 @ 8:58 PM |
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irish20835
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lets not forget the oil wells he set on fire
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| Dec 26, 2006 @ 9:17 PM |
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julia143
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Some Iraqis are celebrating. Some are protesting. Some are waging war. There are few flowers in the streets of Iraq today. There are, however, some bodies to be found.
Hanging the former leader of Iraq during a time of civil war, as the result of a trial run by a government that was established with the approval of the nation that occupies Iraq, seems more like a panicked attempt to erase the past than an expression of true justice.
Saddam Hussein did terrible things as leader of Iraq. However, the trial and sentencing of Saddam Hussein should not have been so much about the past as about establishing a better future. Whether or not the trial was truly fair, the circumstances of the proceedings have given enough reason for people to feel that they were illegitimate. At a time when it is uncertain who controls Iraq, a seemingly illegitimate trial and execution of the former leader will widely be seen as the foundation of an illegitimate new order in Iraq, whatever that order turns out to be.
Hanging Saddam Hussein won’t heal the wounds of the past. Hanging Saddam Hussein won’t solve the problems of the present. Hanging Saddam Hussein won’t help Iraqis or Americans achieve a peaceful future.
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| Dec 26, 2006 @ 9:32 PM |
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irish20835
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Julia just was i was not looking for ..a intelligent well thought out response ...i was hoping some wing nut would start spouting off about how saddam is just 1 more victim of bush's war crimes ect ect ...
nicely said
but lets play devils advocate ( no pun intended) ...say saddam's trail was not fair ...what defense do you use for the slaughter of hundreds of innoncents....I know there is much more but it was the murder of the 100 or so people that he is actually hanging for
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| Dec 26, 2006 @ 9:40 PM |
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uab_5
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but lets play devils advocate ( no pun intended) ...say saddam's trail was not fair ...what defense do you use for the slaughter of hundreds of innoncents....I know there is much more but it was the murder of the 100 or so people that he is actually hanging for
I was only following orders???
If you're gonna hang a man, hang him high! 
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| Dec 26, 2006 @ 9:44 PM |
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Jankia
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Whether or not the trial was truly fair, the circumstances of the proceedings have given enough reason for people to feel that they were illegitimate. At a time when it is uncertain who controls Iraq, a seemingly illegitimate trial and execution of the former leader will widely be seen as the foundation of an illegitimate new order in Iraq,
I looked pretty hard and found nothing that proves his trial wasnt a legitimate trial according to Iraqi law and held by Iraqis..
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| Dec 26, 2006 @ 9:46 PM |
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julia143
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I'll play 
If Saddams trial was not fair....
His defense should have been that he did it out of revenge for having an assassination attempt made on him.
I mean that's what we did right? Exacted revenge on Iraqi's for 9/11
Actually, if we determined that his trial was not fair, we should have had it
taken before an international tribunal, such as the International Criminal Court (ICC). An alternative would have been to set up a Truth and Reconciliation Commission, as was done in South Africa following the end of the apartheid era, and of course postpone the hanging.
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| Dec 26, 2006 @ 9:48 PM |
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julia143
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I looked pretty hard and found nothing that proves his trial wasnt a legitimate trial according to Iraqi law and held by Iraqis..
I did not say it was not fair.
Read it again....
for people to feel that they were illegitimate.
FEEL being Keyword here
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| Dec 26, 2006 @ 9:54 PM |
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Jankia
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I mean that's what we did right? Exacted revenge on Iraqi's for 9/11
Nope,your confusing revenge with a reckoning for murdering his own people.We are talking about his trial here.
I did not say it was not fair.
No you didnt Julia but you did refer to it as "seemingly illegitimate"
[Edited on 12/26/2006 9:57 PM]
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| Dec 26, 2006 @ 9:54 PM |
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irish20835
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what % of people in this world who are found guilty think they got a fair trial?
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| Dec 26, 2006 @ 9:59 PM |
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julia143
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The trial's fairness is dubious. It's problematic to try a political enemy – especially for using an unfair court to condemn people to death, ironically! – in a court that is itself perceived as unfair. Groups including Human Rights Watch, Amnesty and several UN bodies have challenged the tribunal's credibility, and there have been clear instances of political interference – the last judge was sacked by the government for claiming Saddam was not a dictator. This is why isn't a particularly sensible idea for dictators to be tried by their victims, who can be so determined to attain a conviction that they skimp on procedure.
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