| Mar 29, 2007 @ 10:03 AM |
Defeat In Iraq - The Only Chance For Democrats in '08
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DiamondRain
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It must be an awful feeling being a member of a party that bases its whole strategy on creating a defeat for America in Iraq.
The Democrats are so heavily invested in failure in Iraq, and have worked so hard to ensure it, that success there would leave them with no chance for victory in '08.
Instead of getting behind an effort to make the current strategy a success, they desperately want to absolutely ensure defeat by retreating before the '08 election so they can point to this as a failure, blame the Republicans, and declare their own victory. How horribly despicable.
America's success would lead to Democrat's failure. They have firmly wedged themselves into this corner. And the Democrats have decided that their political victory in '08 is more important than the future of the country. It could not be any more clear.
I have the new campaign slogan for the Democrats for '08:
"Victory in Iraq? Not on OUR watch!"
[Edited on 3/29/2007 10:47 AM]
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| Mar 29, 2007 @ 10:47 AM |
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acslim
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yeah well that's politics for u
why are we in Iraq again???
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| Mar 29, 2007 @ 11:30 AM |
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spongebob777
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Their biggest fault is in buying their own propaganda. In the end it will cost them.
They've managed to convince themselves that they're some kind of vast majority and it just isn't true. Even Chuck Schumer pointed out that they don't have a mandate. !0,000 votes was all that stood in the way of a GOP held house. (close enough to send democrats into screaming fits and fraud fantasies if they had lost)
Nancy Pelosi's surrender resolution was nowhere near the resounding victory she would have liked to claim. It cost 24 billion dollars in pork and only gained her 2 republicans and lost more than a dozen democrats. In the senate, passage means a veto and they won't be getting a 2/3 majority.
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| Mar 29, 2007 @ 8:17 PM |
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Bj864
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DR What is defeat to you? Is it being beaten (and how is that defined)? Is it giving their country back to them?
What you are calling defeat is bringing part of our troops home. Neither party has any plans to bring all our troops out of Iraq. The democrats simply want the Iraqis to settle or fight out their own issues, without our people in the middle.
What is victory? The way they have defined victory has changed everytime they reached the goal. What is it defined as now? The last one I heard was "when they stand up, we will stand down". That's victory? Fighting and winning on the side that is closely alligned with Iran? That's victory?
To me, it is a no win situation. The only thing I think we can accomplish by staying is to get more of our troops injured and killed.
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| Mar 29, 2007 @ 8:26 PM |
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thegoodideaman
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I wish I could find a way to spread this Theory on my lawn...
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| Mar 30, 2007 @ 3:07 PM |
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Bj864
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Which theory?
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| Mar 30, 2007 @ 3:33 PM |
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irish20835
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What is victory? The way they have defined victory has changed everytime they reached the goal.
Yes how true this is
but what is getting my panties in a bunch is how the democrats in congress seem to hold our troops hostage to push their political agenda
and the ignorant republicans refuse to even negotiate a time table is just as pathetic
not only does the government owe these troops at least a timetable but the american people as well
my support for the global war on terror and our troops has not or never will change but i feel enough is enough . we are in a no win situation when dealing with our selfish government as well as radical islamo fasicists
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| Mar 30, 2007 @ 3:44 PM |
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Bj864
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not only does the government owe these troops at least a timetable but the american people as well
my support for the global war on terror and our troops has not or never will change but i feel enough is enough . we are in a no win situation when dealing with our selfish government as well as radical islamo fasicists
Once in a great while we agree with each other. This is one of those rare times! 
I think as time goes on, more and more of us will agree about how the Iraq war came to be and how it should be ended.
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| Mar 31, 2007 @ 8:19 PM |
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MusicMonster
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Maybe we just shouldn'ta gone over there to begin with..
Maybe we shoulda kept after Bin Laden instead!!
WhattayaThink? 
-MM 
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| Mar 31, 2007 @ 8:22 PM |
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12knots
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Maybe we just shouldn'ta gone over there to begin with..
Maybe we shoulda kept after Bin Laden instead!!
ut oh....... an agreement!
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| Mar 31, 2007 @ 8:24 PM |
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kjac
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ut oh....... an agreement!
Between three people no less. MD might have to shut down for this one. 
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| Mar 31, 2007 @ 8:25 PM |
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eastham
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Make that 4!
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| Apr 1, 2007 @ 6:26 PM |
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steveemac
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And one for the thumb...
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| Nov 3, 2007 @ 12:40 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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Now that American combat deaths are down by 70% and the surge is obviously working, what will the Liberals do if the USA wins the war in Iraq?
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| Nov 3, 2007 @ 12:54 AM |
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DiamondRain
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Good question... and thanks for reviving this post and furthering the point with an update. I had forgotten about posting this, but truly enjoyed reading it again!
(Talk about yer self aggrandizement!)
My best guess at answering your question is that the Democrats will do their best to destroy the economy next (not that they aren‘t doing their best to accomplish that already! But since they seem to be losing their bid to make us lose in Iraq, I suspect they may now redouble their effort to ruin the economy). That is their other favorite tactic to seize political power without regard for the interests of the American people.
[Edited on 11/3/2007 1:01 AM]
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| Nov 3, 2007 @ 1:11 AM |
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budo13
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remember DR the demosolicalmarxsist want to save us from our own stupidity,as if we were children.they pray nightly for more causality's so the can say see told you so.and as for you my friend welcome back to the political fourms more voices of reason were needed" shine on you crazy diamond"
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| Nov 3, 2007 @ 1:19 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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Budo13 for El Presidente of an Independent "Freeworld Cuban government" whose seat is Guantanemo.
What Cuba needs is a rump government at Guantanemo in place, printing its own currency, and electing a Free Cuban President and National Assembly, as a government in being ready for the Communist state under Castro to collapse just like East Germany did.
Castro refuses to cash US checks for the rental of Guantanemo US Naval Base so at lease we can pay a Free Cuban government that rent.
Ya think?
Won't the Liberal Democrats scream if anyone actually attempts to undermine Castro!
Sounds better every time I think of it.
Plus a military victory in Iraq sounds pretty good to me too.
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| Nov 3, 2007 @ 1:22 AM |
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budo13
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alright Para i'll run but only if (in the words of Patton) "i can shoot that paper hanging son-of a bitch between the eyes"
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| Nov 3, 2007 @ 7:48 PM |
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Bj864
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Now that American combat deaths are down by 70% and the surge is obviously working, what will the Liberals do if the USA wins the war in Iraq?
Again I ask, what is winning?
To me, the "war" cannot be "won". Even if we get control of Iraq, look what we have done. Taken control of another country, killed many of its people and lost the lives of a lot of Americans.
To me that is not a win, that is a crime.
So you see Para, even though you want to stay until the fighting stops and we take over the entire country, not all of us would count that as a "win".
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| Nov 3, 2007 @ 9:36 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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So you see Para, even though you want to stay until the fighting stops and we take over the entire country, not all of us would count that as a "win".
I know America has Domestic Enemies who want America to lose wars.
But I know what a win is and what losers are and those whose opinions are respected think the same way.
Killing killers who want to kill Americans is not a crime. It is self defense
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