| Apr 4, 2007 @ 11:15 AM |
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Blondino
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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says 15 British naval personnel captured in the Gulf are free to leave.
He repeated allegations that the British sailors and marines "invaded" Iranian waters, but said they were being released as a "gift" to Britain.
He said they would be taken to Tehran airport and flown home within hours.
Downing Street welcomed news of the release, while Iranian state media said the British crew members "shouted for joy" on hearing the news.
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| Apr 4, 2007 @ 11:40 AM |
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spongebob777
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What a wonderfull man 
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| Apr 4, 2007 @ 11:42 AM |
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12knots
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pftttt...
what do you expect?
But did you hear the Statement the Iranians made.... good for them! (Well on some parts.) Maybe the way they have been treated by not only the USA, UK and many other countries, will help go a long way to reconsider actions within the Middle East.
So far I have seen the Iranians just playing tit for tat and trying to get their voice heard to the world. After all who supplied the Iraqi's to go to war against the Iranians?
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| Apr 4, 2007 @ 11:46 AM |
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Blondino
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Never said he was a wonderful man ... but I am happy to see the sailors released
no shock and awe and bombing  .. bit of old patience and diplomacy 
I wonder if they were in Iranian waters 
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| Apr 4, 2007 @ 11:54 AM |
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Blondino
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The waters where Iranian navy forces seized 15 British sailors and marines are near an area long contested by Iran and Iraq, just outside the mouth of a muddy, 200 kilometer (125-mile)-long channel that separates the Arab and Persian worlds.
The neighbors don't even agree what to call it.
For the Iranians, it is Arvandrud, or Arvand River. To the Iraqis, it is the Shatt al-Arab, or Arab coastline.
Whatever the name, the waterway is formed by the confluence of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, which join at the Iraqi town of Qurnah and flow into the Persian Gulf, providing Iraq's only outlet to the sea.
Iranians and Iraqis have been squabbling over the waterway since before the creation of modern Iran and Iraq.
In 1639, the Persians and Ottomans signed an agreement dividing the territory, but without a careful land survey. Bickering continued for centuries, with Iraq claiming the entire waterway right up to the Iranian shoreline.
In 1975, however, the two countries signed a treaty recognizing the middle of the waterway as the international boundary. Five years later, Saddam Hussein tore up the treaty and invaded Iran, unleashing a devastating eight-year war.
Much of the fighting centered around the waterway. When the Iranians captured the Faw Peninsula on the southern end of the channel in 1987, Iraq lost its shipping lanes and had to turn to Kuwait and Jordan for help in exporting its products.
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| Apr 4, 2007 @ 11:59 AM |
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Martin666
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There was probably some quid pro quo behind the scenes with the US and Iran ?---just today also the US announced that Iranian reps would be able to visit for the first time with the five captured Iranians that the US is holding in Iraq.
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| Apr 4, 2007 @ 12:09 PM |
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Timmeh3000
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Anybody notice Ahmadinejad looks suspiciously like Bob Denver?
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| Apr 4, 2007 @ 12:17 PM |
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MarysPlace
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There was probably some quid pro quo behind the scenes with the US and Iran ?
There he goes again... 
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| Apr 4, 2007 @ 12:20 PM |
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Blondino
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Anybody notice Ahmadinejad looks suspiciously like Bob Denver?
well dont know Bob but he is an odd little looking fellow
The Pope made a personal plea to Ahmadinejad .... yesterday
[Edited on 4/4/2007 12:40 PM]
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| Apr 4, 2007 @ 12:49 PM |
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12knots
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There was probably some quid pro quo behind the scenes with the US and Iran ?
More than likely martin, as usual.
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| Apr 4, 2007 @ 12:53 PM |
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Kirkish
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Is there a possibility Putin could have had something to do with the release?
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| Apr 4, 2007 @ 12:55 PM |
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Blondino
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The Pope made a personal plea to Ahmadinejad .... yesterday
well the Pope is getting a lot of credit on tv at the moment & he is greatly respected in Iran
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| Apr 5, 2007 @ 4:40 PM |
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atropos9119
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Is he really? I thought someone issued a fatwa against him for his comments recently?
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| Apr 6, 2007 @ 2:58 PM |
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Blondino
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Nope dont think so.. first I ever heard the fatwa thing
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| Apr 6, 2007 @ 3:12 PM |
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atropos9119
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Perhaps... but I know he stirred up some hatred by making some comments about Islam.
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| Apr 6, 2007 @ 3:56 PM |
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Blondino
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well this I know for sure ... the pope was in an islamic country .. Turkey .. in Istanbul .. end of last year
he was praying and welcomed everywhere .. I was in Istanbul to visit my family and he was treated as a great man ... so any news I hear to the contary I dont believe because I was there and I saw.
He is respected there and loved . anyone who wants to tell me otherwise will need to prove this by having seen what I saw with my eyes .
Like christianity .. Islam is variable ,, and The Pope is a man of God ... 
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| Apr 6, 2007 @ 11:32 PM |
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Novalite
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12 Knots
After all who supplied the Iraqi's to go to war against the Iranians?
Less than one percent the US and the majority France, Russia, China, Germany and the like.
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| Apr 6, 2007 @ 11:44 PM |
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bryan2992
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the british captain of the vessel that was captured still says that he was over a mile and a half from iranian waters. also, the soldiiers once home said that they were kept in separate 8x8 cells with only blankets to lay on. the only female of the group was kept away from the others and was told for days that her shipmates had been sent home and that she was staying behind
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| Apr 9, 2007 @ 11:29 AM |
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juzhey
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After watching the news reports on this whole thing, I got the impression that it was just another pack of lies coming from the Iranians (don't believe the brits were in Iranian waters), they finally backed down because they knew they wouldn't be able to take the backlash, and are trying very hard to save face with all the foolishness of these "apologies". Brits had nothing to apologize for.
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| Apr 9, 2007 @ 11:57 AM |
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Blondino
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The waters where Iranian navy forces seized a group of British sailors and marines are near an area long contested by Iran and Iraq -- just outside the mouth of a muddy, 200-kilometer (125-mile) channel that separates the Arab and Persian worlds.
The neighbors don't even agree what to call it. For the Iranians, it is Arvandrud, or Arvand River. To the Iraqis, it is the Shatt al-Arab, or Arab coastline.Whatever the name, the waterway is formed by the confluence of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, which join at the Iraqi town of Qurnah and flow into the Persian Gulf -- providing Iraq's only outlet to the sea.
Iranians and Iraqis have been squabbling over the waterway since before the creation of modern Iran and Iraq.In 1639, the Persians and Ottomans signed an agreement dividing the territory, but without a careful land survey. Bickering continued for centuries, with Iraq claiming the entire waterway right up to the Iranian shoreline.
In 1975, however, the two countries signed a treaty recognizing the middle of the waterway as the international boundary. Five years later, Saddam Hussein tore up the treaty and invaded Iran, unleashing a devastating eight-year war The above being the case ... my criticism is that by being there ... shows lack of discretion & sensitivity. Ther Irananians had shown themselves for some days .. before the sailors were taken .... should have been a bit of a warning., but they had taken no notice.
People in that area should be armed with the knowledge that its disputed and act accordingly ... especially a third party
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