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MarysPlace
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With all the brouhaha over Imus, a MUCH, MUCH bigger issue is slipping through the cracks of media attention. Oh wait, but these guys are white so it's not important after all. Never mind the fact that their lives ARE ruined, never mind that they suffered gross injustice, the guys are white and so it doesn't matter.
Where's the outrage over this? I ain't seen Sharpton or Jackson protesting over their civil rights. Surely they have them?
It's a sad state of affairs the liberals have brought this country to. One little remark on the radio directed at black girls is bigger than anything big, but three white guys wrongly accused, TRASHED THROUGH THE MEDIA for a year is no big deal.
Who can say fair and unbiased coverage? You telling me media isn't leaning left? Nah... It's just that I'm cranky this morning.
Duke lacrosse players cleared in sex assault case
By Gene Cherry Wed Apr 11, 5:33 PM ET
RALEIGH, North Carolina (Reuters) - Three student athletes accused of kidnapping and sexually assaulting a black stripper at a Duke University lacrosse team party were cleared of all remaining criminal charges on Wednesday, authorities said.
Prosecutors had earlier dropped rape charges against the men, all of whom are white, after their accuser told investigators she was uncertain about crucial details of the alleged assault at an off-campus house in Durham, North Carolina, in March 2006.
Closing the book on the case, which drew national attention, North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper said he was dropping outstanding charges of kidnapping and sexual assault against the men due to insufficient evidence.
"We have no credible evidence that an attack occurred in that house on that night," Cooper told a news conference in Raleigh, the state capital.
Some U.S. media had portrayed the case as a symbol of racial and class tensions in the U.S. South and the town where Duke, a top-ranked private university founded in 1838, is located.
But it unraveled quickly after laboratory tests found no trace of the defendants' DNA on the accuser and amid charges the original prosecutor, Durham County District Attorney Michael Nifong, had played up the case because he was seeking re-election.
The North Carolina State Bar filed an ethics complaint against Nifong in December for what it said were misleading and improper public statements in the lacrosse case.
The three players, Reade Seligmann, Collin Finnerty and David Evans, held a news conference later in the day at which they expressed relief the case had been dropped.
"I'm excited to get on with my life. It's been a long year," Evans said. "I hope these allegations don't come to define me."
Seligmann said the players' ordeal showed American society had lost sight of one of the nation's most fundamental legal principles, the presumption of innocence, and had exposed flaws in the U.S. justice system.
"If police officers and a district attorney can systematically railroad us with absolutely no evidence whatsoever, I can't image what they would do to people who do not have the resources to defend themselves," he said.
Cooper, who took over the case when Nifong was accused of ethics violations, said the case resulted from a "tragic rush to accuse and a failure to verify serious allegations."
"Based on the significant inconsistencies between the evidence and the various accounts given by the accusing witness, we believe these three individuals are innocent of these charges," he said.
Asked if charges would be brought against Nifong, Cooper said: "All options are certainly on the table."
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| Apr 12, 2007 @ 8:22 AM |
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Martin666
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There has been a big media issue over this for the last year. The prosecutor responsible is likely to be disbarred. The state/county will no doubt pay out millions in wrongful prosecution suits. Everyone in the country has been reading about this for a year. It was the prosecutor who mis-directed, not the media.
There's been plenty of outrage all around.
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| Apr 12, 2007 @ 8:29 AM |
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MarysPlace
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There has been a big media issue over this for the last year.
Yes, trashing the guys. Howzabout the same courtesy clearing them?
There's been plenty of outrage all around.
Yes, over 3 white guys "raping" a black girl. NOT over their civil rights being trampled up and down the media.
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| Apr 12, 2007 @ 8:52 AM |
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Martin666
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The realization that the charges were trumped up as a result of prosecutorial misconduct first came about late last year or in january of this year, and it was all over the media. You couldn't turn on an electronic signaling device without hearing the newscaster attacking the prosecution of the case. Wolf Blitzer was on my sons electric toothbrush, for gosh sake.
The story about the boys being unfairly accused has taken up more news airtime that Anna Nichol's boobs, if that's possible.
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| Apr 12, 2007 @ 9:19 AM |
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Whadda want Mary?
The persecutor is being charged, the kids are exonerated and being readmitted to school.
You can't changethe past. Sorry, I've tried that.
I do feel bad for those kids. The defense costs, the slander/libel to therir reputations, and lost time is irrepairable.
No one has to like it, only accept is has what has happen, and havethe courage not to let it happen again.
Of course thoses idiot mouth pieces Sharpton and Jackson were in the middle of the persecution last year...but we can't do squat to them. 
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| Apr 12, 2007 @ 9:19 AM |
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juzhey
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Funny, all I saw were articles trashing the boys. Nothing about them being found innocent til I saw this. So I guess the media hasn't been blasting all that hard about it.
Sure hope the stripper gets lawsuits filed against her from all three of them, along with criminal charges by the courts. It was a really stupid thing for her to do, crying wolf and all.
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| Apr 12, 2007 @ 9:35 AM |
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MarysPlace
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The story about the boys being unfairly accused has taken up more news airtime that Anna Nichol's boobs, if that's possible.
I'm forever amazed by the liberal state of denial. I'm beginning to think it's a birth defect and therefore cannot be repaired.
Tell me this Martin: at THIS point in time, today and yesterday, what was given more coverage, Imus or Duke? In your opinion, what is worse, a radio slur or a misconduct of a DA and of these proportions?
In your opinion, should our esteemed civil rights activists say something about the Duke case, regardless of the fact that the boys are white?
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| Apr 12, 2007 @ 9:39 AM |
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MarysPlace
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Whadda want Mary?
The persecutor is being charged, the kids are exonerated and being readmitted to school.
What do I want? A bigger media outrage. Sharpton and Jackson to come out and fkn apologize on national TV.
If Imus, Michael Richards, etc have to apologize to every single black person that ever walked the face of the earth, then I want Sharpton and Jackson to do the same. Believe me, if the roles were reversed, that's precisely what they'd be demanding of the whole state of North Carolina.
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| Apr 12, 2007 @ 9:59 AM |
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Martin666
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I think Anna Nichols boobs are far more important than either Imus or the Lacrosse boys...
Have you heard that Dow Chemical Company is about to fall to a leveraged buy-out from a consortium of arab companies? (true story). And do you know what Dow is famous for making?
SILICONE!!
Anna Nichole died and Dow went on the chopping block, and now the TERRORISTS are going to own the crown jewel of the american chemical industry. All over a pair of outrageously pumped up boobies!
Wheres the outrage in THAT!!!
[Edited on 4/12/2007 10:05 AM]
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| Apr 12, 2007 @ 10:07 AM |
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MarysPlace
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Nope, Martin, I didn't expect you to actually answer the questions. I did however expect you to ramble about nothing, which you did as usual.
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| Apr 12, 2007 @ 10:20 AM |
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Martin666
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Thank you for the compliment 
I didn't answer your question because it's a witch hunt question that has no answer and is simply argumentative.
The Imus issue doesn't have anything to do with Sharpton or anyone else. If Sharpton or anyone else libels or slanders anyone, they should be held accountable for it. There's a difference between crappy and stupid racial slurs and libel/slander.
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| Apr 12, 2007 @ 10:40 AM |
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juzhey
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Mary – “What do I want? A bigger media outrage. Sharpton and Jackson to come out and fkn apologize on national TV.
If Imus, Michael Richards, etc have to apologize to every single black person that ever walked the face of the earth, then I want Sharpton and Jackson to do the same. Believe me, if the roles were reversed, that's precisely what they'd be demanding of the whole state of North Carolina.” LOL as if those who pretend to be so discriminated against would ever admit that they are the true racists. Never gonna happen.
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| Apr 12, 2007 @ 11:39 AM |
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MarysPlace
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LOL as if those who pretend to be so discriminated against would ever admit that they are the true racists. Never gonna happen.
Of course not. As longs as they have herds of Martin-like types who will defend them at all cost.
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| Apr 12, 2007 @ 12:47 PM |
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acslim
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Why is Jackson even allowed to chime in on this stuff anymore-- isn't he on record calling Jewish pplz 'Hymies'? And once you're on record you know, there should be no chance for redemption, no matter how long you hang your head in shame or how many times you apologize. There is no gooing back right? So why do we still have to hear from Rev. Asshole?
The PC loonie left is getiing totally out of control if u ask me, with all this 'let's expose him for a racist and all pile on' BS i mean really don't they have anything better to do?
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| Apr 12, 2007 @ 12:56 PM |
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It isn't just Jackson
Al Sharpton:
According to CNN.com, July 13,1998, in the article "Winner in Brawley suit says victory is bittersweet," Tawana Brawley, a 15-year-old black female, was found in a garbage bag with dog feces smeared on her body and racial epithets scrawled on her, after disappearing from her home on November 1987. With the help of Al Sharpton, she claimed a gang of white law enforcement officers had abducted and raped her. One of these accused men was former prosecutor Steven Pagones. Eventually, a grand jury pronounced her story a hoax, exonerating Pagones. The jury found Sharpton liable for $65,000 of the total damages for making seven defamatory statements about Pagones, many of which included Al Sharpton calling Pagones a "rapist." Sharpton never apologized for his remarks against Pagones. The case was obviously racially inflamed with the help of Al Sharpton, who demonstrated his unrepentant hatred toward whites.
Jesse Jackson:
An article in the Washington Post on Feb. 13, 1984, Rick Atkinson reported Jackson saying, “the most attempts to disrupt this campaign have come from Jewish people.” Toward the end of the article Atkinson states that “In private conversations with reporters, Jackson referred to Jews as ‘Hymie’ and to New York as ‘Hymietown.’ ‘I’m not familiar with that,’ Jackson said. ‘That’s not accurate.’ ”
As the controversy accelerated, Black Muslim minister Farrakhan warned Jews “if you harm this brother, it will be the last one you harm.” From that point on, Jackson had to deal with Farrakhan’s remarks as well as his own.
Jackson eventually condemned Farrakhan’s remarks as “reprehensible and morally indefensible.”
Louis Farrakhan, racist, bigot, and inciteful hatemonger:
"These false Jews promote the filth of Hollywood that is seeding the American people and the people of the world and bringing you down in moral strength…It's the wicked Jews the false Jews that are promoting Lesbianism, homosexuality. It's wicked Jews, false Jews that make it a crime for you to preach the word of God, then they call you homophobic!"
"And the Christian right, with your blindness to that wicked state of Israel…can that be the holy land, and you have gay parades, and want to permit to have a gay parade in Jerusalem when no prophet ever sanctioned that behavior. HOW CAN THAT BE THE ISRAEL, how can that be Jerusalem with secular people running the holy land when it should be the holy people running the holy land. That land is gonna be cleansed with BLOOD!"
"God does not love everybody. He said he loved Jacob but he hated Esau. So if God is our example and he can love and he can hate then don't be afraid to love and don't be afraid to hate."
There's only so much I can put in this blog, but there's a lot more on this a$$hole.
Rush Limbaugh
"the sports media, being liberals just like liberal media is elsewhere, have a desire that black quarterbacks excel and do very well so that their claims that blacks are being denied opportunity can be validated."
and just a little more on Rush the hypocrite
"There's nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.
"What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use. Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too."
Billy Graham
"This stranglehold has got to be broken or the country's going down the drain," the nation's best-known preacher declared as he agreed with a stream of bigoted Nixon comments about Jews and their perceived influence in American life.
"You believe that?" Nixon says after the "stranglehold" comment.
"Yes, sir," Graham says.
"Oh, boy," replies Nixon. "So do I. I can't ever say that but I believe it."
"No, but if you get elected a second time, then we might be able to do something," Graham replies.
And let us not forget this little comment from the first Bush president concerning atheists.
No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.
I've only listened to Imus once in my life I think, but if he goes, so should all of these guys. What he said was mild compared to most of this.
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| Apr 12, 2007 @ 1:04 PM |
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Martin666
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Sharpton defamed Pagones and was found guilty, and forced to pay.
The other statements shown as examples are not defamations. They're bad taste racist slurs against which everyone should be outraged, but the people who spoke them aren't legally liable.
Imus defamed the girls on the team the same as Sharpton defamed pagones. And like Sharpton he should be held legally accountable for it.
If Sharpton was prosecuted and fined, then you certainly would want Imus to be also, right? Isn't the whole drift of the argument here that the laws should be applied equally, black or white?
Or should Imus be exempt from the law Sharpton was fined under, simply because he's white?
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| Apr 12, 2007 @ 1:15 PM |
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acslim
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the difference here Martin, was that Imus wasn't trying to have the Rutger's women's basketball team incarcerated for a good chunk of their lives.
No imus should not have been fired or even fined for saying what he did ... that's not defamation its free speech. You shouldn't take what entertainment talk show hosts say as verbatim, if you don't understand what i'm saying intuitively then you probably never will.
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| Apr 12, 2007 @ 1:21 PM |
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Martin666
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Pagones didn't sue Sharpton for the Brawley case itself or anything that Sharpton did or didn't do to support or not support that case or those accusation, or for trying to put anyone in jail. Pagones sued Sharpton over defamations to his personal character that Sharpton made in public.
Theres a difference between free speech and defamation, and between defamation and stupid racial comments that are deplorable but not criminally defamatory.
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| Apr 12, 2007 @ 1:26 PM |
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acslim
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stop splitting hairs the Brawley case was about putting four innocent guys in jail for something they didn't do and Al Sharpton was a big part of it. Thats how the thing got started, no?
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| Apr 12, 2007 @ 1:30 PM |
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Asked if charges would be brought against Nifong, Cooper said: "All options are certainly on the table."
I certainly hope so!!!!!
The lives of these young men have been trashed, through the media and the courts. Nothing can really be done for them now.
Guilty before being proved innocent in this country!
how many people does this happen to that WE DON'T hear about???
I know of one, and we miss him dearly!!!
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