| Apr 24, 2007 @ 8:28 PM |
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spongebob777
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Where the hell is the media on this growing Chinese food story? When dangerous chemicals were found to be killing pets it made big news but the media seems to have forgotten the story even though more pet food brands are being recalled almost daily. Now that melamine has been found in hog feed in both California and South Carolina, the media doesn't seem interested in talking about it.
I'm finding quite a bit in print but the TV talking heads just don;t seem to have any interest in the story.
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 8:38 PM |
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MarysPlace
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Ummm... Do I see you actually advocating saying anything against minorities? You want all the Chinese... I mean Chinese Americans to stop doing the laundry and delivering food? So unPC Sponge! 
You're a very bad European American of a pale complexion!
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 8:46 PM |
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FeliciVagano
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no..you are not...and it is IMHO a bigger story than being reported.. They just are getting their ducks in a row for the big lie.. Lets blame it all on the chinese!!
plastic cookies for everyone 
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| Apr 25, 2007 @ 12:53 AM |
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kjac
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I've said it before, I'll say it again. Free trade, China, and William Jefferson Clinton killed my dog.
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| Apr 25, 2007 @ 1:02 AM |
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ToucherinSparks
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Lets blame it all on the chinese!!
If the shit is coming from China, who the hell else are you going to blame?
No, wait... it's becoming clearer now.... It was Bush and Cheney wasn't it? They snuck over to China and dumped a bunch of Melamine on the wheat, probably out of a black helo..... I'll bet the Melamine came from a secret stash that Haliburton made up and hid in the WTC 7 building....
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| Apr 25, 2007 @ 7:23 AM |
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spongebob777
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Apparently it's now being found in several states and also chicken feed in Missouri.
http://www.forbes.com/forbeslife/health/feeds/hscout/2007/04/24/hscout604007.html
Unfortunately there's plenty of blame to go around. China has always cheated on trade and have always poisoned their people (as well as people in other poor countries), We have the WTO dictating what we buy and where. And finally there's greed in this country.
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| Apr 25, 2007 @ 2:53 PM |
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Loreli
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This story has been on the local news several times.
We had some of the tainted dog food, but we have no chickens or pigs.
I'm staying away from Chinese food for awhile. Never did like the plastic cookies anyway....
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| Apr 25, 2007 @ 3:19 PM |
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FeliciVagano
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No, wait... it's becoming clearer now.... It was Bush and Cheney wasn't it? They snuck over to China and dumped a bunch of Melamine on the wheat, probably out of a black helo..... I'll bet the Melamine came from a secret stash that Haliburton made up and hid in the WTC 7 building.... sigh.....some people..... 
anyway...
from sponge bobs link.....
...In addition, he said, the FDA has begun to test several types of imported protein supplements used both in human and pet food for the presence of melamine, a chemical used to make plastics and fertilizers.
The imported melamine found in dog and cat food was apparently used to boost the protein content of the foods, and has sickened and killed an unknown number of animals.
"The FDA will begin testing a variety of protein ingredients in finished products commonly found in the U.S. food and feed supply for the presence of melamine," Sundlof said. The agency will focus on newly imported products as well as products already in the country, he added.
Products to be tested include wheat gluten, rice protein concentrate, corn gluten, corn meal, soy protein and rice bran, Sundlof said. Other products may be added to the list later.
These ingredients are used widely in human foods, Dr. David Acheson, FDA's chief medical officer at the Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition, told reporters. "Things like breads, pastas, cereals, pizza dough, energy bars and protein shakes," he added.......
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| Apr 25, 2007 @ 3:50 PM |
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spongebob777
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We had some of the tainted dog food, but we have no chickens or pigs.
I'm staying away from Chinese food for awhile.
Unfortunately its not quite that simple. It stopped being about pet food when we started finding it in livestock feed and we in turn eat the livestock. Also many of the unpronounceable chemicals you see on a can of ravioli or chicken soup may come from China.
Among the things that I've found while digging around. Hogs on Chinese factory farms are routinely given antihistamines to keep them lean. In 1996, 87 children in Haiti died as a result of drinking cough syrup made in China that contained some form of deadly industrial chemical. Just last year we found that Soy sauce containing cancer causing agents was being made in China and shipped all over the world including here. The hair sauce ended up in institutional settings like schools and hospitals. China was a leading food supplier to Iraq under the oil for food program and I shudder to think what they were eating.
There's plenty of blame to go around. China doesn't care about their own people let alone the rest of us. The WTO forces trade deals on us that are harmful to all but the big money makers. And then there are the big money makers who couldn't care less how much damage they cause as long as their stocks look good.
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| Apr 25, 2007 @ 4:14 PM |
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Loreli
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Oh, but I'm a vegetarian for the most part...
the chinese I get is veggie-but I'm STILL staying away from it for awhile.
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| Apr 25, 2007 @ 10:21 PM |
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kattsmeow
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 Things like breads, pastas, cereals, pizza dough, energy bars and protein shakes," he added.......
Products to be tested include wheat gluten, rice protein concentrate, corn gluten, corn meal, soy protein and rice bran, Sundlof said. Other products may be added to the list later.
Wheat gluten is most popular in China, where it was first developed, as well as in the cuisines of other East and Southeast Asian nations. In Asia, it is commonly found on the menus of restaurants catering primarily to Buddhist customers who do not eat meat, but who nonetheless enjoy eating meatless versions of meat dishes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_gluten_(food)
Soy protein
Food uses
Soy protein is used in a variety of foods such as salad dressings, soups, imitation meats, beverage powders, cheeses, non-dairy creamer, frozen desserts, whipped topping, infant formulas, breads, breakfast cereals, pastas, and pet foods.
Functional uses
Soy protein is used for emulsification and texturizing. Specific applications include adhesives, asphalts, resins, cleaning materials, cosmetics, inks, pleather, paints, paper coatings, pesticides/fungicides, plastics, polyesters and textile fibres.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soy_protein
Needless to say, even if you don't eat meat,,,you need to watch where your food is coming from.
I would say to try to find out on the labels of your food, where it is from.
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| Apr 26, 2007 @ 4:22 PM |
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FeliciVagano
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so...what are you (we) going to do about it?...
WASHINGTON Apr 16, 2007 (AP)— Just 1.3 percent of imported fish, vegetables, fruit and other foods are inspected yet those government inspections regularly reveal food unfit for human consumption.
Frozen catfish from China, beans from Belgium, jalapenos from Peru, blackberries from Guatemala, baked goods from Canada, India and the Philippines the list of tainted food detained at the border by the Food and Drug Administration stretches on.
Add to that the contaminated Chinese wheat gluten that poisoned cats and dogs nationwide and led to a massive pet food recall, and you've got a real international pickle. Does the United States have the wherewithal to ensure the food it imports is safe?
Food safety experts say no.
With only a minuscule percentage of shipments inspected, they say the nation is vulnerable to harm from abroad, where rules and regulations governing food production are often more lax than they are at home...... Last month alone, FDA detained nearly 850 shipments of grains, fish, vegetables, nuts, spice, oils and other imported foods for issues ranging from filth to unsafe food coloring to contamination with pesticides to salmonella.
And that's with just 1.3 percent of the imports inspected. As for the other 98.7 percent, it's not inspected, much less detained, and goes to feed the nation's growing appetite for imported foods.
Each year, the average American eats about 260 pounds of imported foods, including processed, ready-to-eat products and single ingredients. Imports account for about 13 percent of the annual diet.
"Never before in history have we had the sort of system that we have now, meaning a globalization of the food supply," said Robert Brackett, director of the FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=3044468
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| Apr 26, 2007 @ 4:35 PM |
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spongebob777
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I noticed and expected the FDA answer to be "give us more money" and they don't disappoint. Personally I blame the WTO and globalism the most. Not that we should be isolationist or anything but we need to make and break our trade deals with our own interests in mind.
It's one of those issues that liberals and conservatives can agree on if we really want to. It's a case of us (nearly all the people) against them (nearly all the government)
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| Apr 26, 2007 @ 8:31 PM |
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eastham
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Sigh....We've been trading with the Chinese since Nixon went to China. Huff and puff all you want about the WTO (gee, who was protesting against globalism at the last international meetings? Conservatives, don't think so...) these problems rest with us. WalMart shoppers need to take a good look in the mirror. When Sam Walton died and his cretinous sons started paying attention to those shopper surveys about lower prices, they stopped buying from US suppliers and started moving toward China.
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| Apr 27, 2007 @ 6:30 PM |
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Bj864
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Personally I blame the WTO and globalism the most. Not that we should be isolationist or anything but we need to make and break our trade deals with our own interests in mind.
This is EXACTLY where the blame lies.
The MAJORITY of our food now comes from other counties. WHY would our government put us in such a dangerous position? As we know, our friends today, may be our enemies tomorrow (Look at Sadaam and Bin Laden).
Kucinich is one of the few in Washington that is fighting against all these trade agreements.
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| May 1, 2007 @ 4:23 PM |
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FeliciVagano
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..The pet food sent to the farms later was discovered to have an ingredient, rice protein concentrate, imported from China that was tainted by an industrial chemical, melamine. Testing also revealed other related and similarly banned compounds, including cyanuric acid.
.......SOUTH CAROLINA: Urine tests done on some of the 800 hogs now quarantined at a farm have tested positive for low levels of melamine. None went to slaughter. According to the state veterinarian, none of the suspect feed was fed to the hogs. Federal tests on the feed have come up negative. The positive urine tests could not be immediately explained, although contaminated feed could have escaped detection during tests, the FDA said.
and the beat goes on.....
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| May 2, 2007 @ 10:17 AM |
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eastham
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Here's a very chilling story from this week's New York Times on the Chinese practice of adding melamine to the feed. Apparently, it gives a false number for the protein content. Lovely.
Melamine
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| May 8, 2007 @ 6:32 AM |
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midnightthunder
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I'm finding quite a bit in print but the TV talking heads just don;t seem to have any interest in the story.
Lou Dobbs talks about it everyday
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| May 8, 2007 @ 8:35 AM |
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spongebob777
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Lou Dobbs talks about it everyday
He's one of the best. 
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| May 8, 2007 @ 11:06 AM |
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Bj864
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Don't think I am going to want any chicken for awhile.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/07/AR2007050701685.html
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