| May 29, 2007 @ 10:30 PM |
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ToucherinSparks
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While they whine and moan about Iraq, the lefties are pushing haed to get the US involved in yet ANOTHER ground war. But because it's the left, everyone is conviently ignoring it....
US senator calls for American troops in Darfur
Tue 22 May 2007 2:17 AM ET
By Evelyn Leopold
UNITED NATIONS, May 22 (Reuters) - U.S. Sen. Joe Biden said that he would commit U.S. forces immediately to stop militia in Sudan's Darfur region as long as there were reports of genocide.
Biden, a presidential candidate and chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said on Monday that in his personal opinion nations had at "some point to cede their sovereignty" if they engaged in genocide.
Biden, a Democrat from Delaware, said U.S. President George W. Bush had made clear that sanctions would be the next step if the United Nations was not ready to send a large force to reinforce the African Union troops in Darfur.
More than 200,000 people have died and 2 million have been uprooted from their homes in the four-year-old conflict between ethnic African repels and the government, backed by the Arab Janjaweed militia.
"I would impose a no-fly zone immediately and I would commit (U.S.) forces to stop the Janjaweed now. But I am not making that decision," Biden told reporters.
Biden was leading a bipartisan delegation, which conferred with Security Council members, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and Sheikha Haya Rashed Al Khalifa, the General Assembly president on a variety of issues.
Sen. Bob Corker, a Tennessee Republican, and Rep. Benjamin Cardin, a Maryland Democratic, did not join Biden in calling for U.S. troops but stressed that a solution to the Darfur crisis was foremost in the discussions.
"The most urgent conversation was on Darfur and how quickly a (U.N.) force could get on the ground," Cardin said.
Sudan's U.N. Ambassador Abdalmahmood Abdelhaleem, however, was angry at the comments, saying the senators "should first come with clean hands and apologize to the U.N. for the mess the United States did in Iraq."
He said Sudan would decide on a peacekeeping force of more than 20,000 troops and police after the United Nations and the African Union had agreed on a plan and sent it to Khartoum.
"There is good momentum in the region," he said, calling Biden's remarks "unwarranted and out of context."
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| May 29, 2007 @ 10:49 PM |
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MarysPlace
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But this war is justified because...
Because...
Ummm...
Wait... I'm thinking...
Because...
Uh, I need a nap.
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| May 29, 2007 @ 11:21 PM |
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SensualGemini
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...Uhm I forget, is Bush on the far left? 
Bush Calls For More Muscle In Darfur
...Are you trying to trick us again? ... Bush is sending 7,000 troops.
...Geez, even your own posting includes Bush. Come on, can't anyone come up with some real BS about either... the left or the right? 
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| May 29, 2007 @ 11:23 PM |
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ToucherinSparks
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The President isn't proposing US forces in Darfur, he want's more African troops and UN support, NOT our troops in yet another 3rd world hell hole war.
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| May 29, 2007 @ 11:55 PM |
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SensualGemini
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Read the link... we are past the first sanctions stage, whereas Reuters is a day late and a dollar short in posting said news. The U.S. has been supporting with equipment and supplies to Rwandan troops since 2004 and today, Bush imposed another set of new sanctions with more troops from the UN and NATO.
...We will be sending either more troops or mercs, lots of money and equipment and especially SF groups that are already there. We are a huge part of NATO, which is increasing missions in support.
Bush Calls For More Muscle In Darfur
Excerpts:
Bush has concluded that peace talks will not halt the violence that has left tens of thousands dead and more than 2 million homeless in Darfur and that a more muscular military response is required, administration officials said.
After private talks with world leaders, including U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan, Bush decided to call for an additional 7,000 or more troops to be placed under U.N. command, along with the 7,000 African Union troops already there, because such an expansion would be the quickest way to intervene in the bloody conflict, the officials said. But many details of the policy shift need to be worked out, including how many U.S. troops would be part of the beefed-up international peacekeeping effort. Lt. Cmdr. Joe Carpenter, a Pentagon spokesman, said it is "premature to speculate" on potential increases in U.S. troops.
A U.N. or NATO mission supported by the United States would probably include more airlift capabilities, planners and logistics specialists, as well as leadership contingents, according to military officials. It was unclear how many U.S. ground troops, if any, would be included in such an effort.
Bush imposes a new set of sanctions...
...A little bonus, may be Sudan...
...How this is a far left issue, is beyond my comprehension. Biden is chairman of the Foreign Relations Committe, which is a unique little group of both parties that beat to a different drummer than mainstream Congress.
...To identify with the close minded absolutes of either far left, or far right and you are going to miss a hell of lot of what is going on in this world.
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| May 30, 2007 @ 12:34 AM |
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sparechange64
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uhm ....  ..... uhm ..... ... what hypocrites ... this should be a blog 
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| May 30, 2007 @ 7:15 AM |
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sealacamp
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Come on, can't anyone come up with some real BS about either... the left or the right
I can. Both sides have been hijacked and we are being taken somewhere that we do not know and never asked to go. I don't think very many people are very happy with either side in any issue these days. IMHO.
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| May 30, 2007 @ 9:41 AM |
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kjac
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Both sides have been hijacked and we are being taken somewhere that we do not know and never asked to go.
For the second time. It seems we learned nothing from Iraq.
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| May 30, 2007 @ 12:39 PM |
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SensualGemini
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kjac wrote:
For the second time. It seems we learned nothing from Iraq. ...If several worthless prior actions warranted acivity from the UN, I would think the ongoing genocide of a few million in Darfur should merit some input.
...Maybe Jackson and Sharpton will volunteer their time, money and efforts to better, to help their distant cousins. Without slavery of their ancestors, their butts would be there now. Maybe they will volunteer to join the Rwandan troops! Yes and the sun rose in the west this morning too!
...There is a growing concern of terrorist camps popping up all over Africa. And yes, there is also oil, but mostly run by British and Dutch contracts.
...Anyone can say what they want, as that is the beauty of the U.S. But, without any doubt, we are still the best damn Nation in the world. I would like to keep and maintain it as being so....
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| May 31, 2007 @ 1:35 AM |
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emptypages
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It's things like this that make me wonder what good the U.N. is for? What do they actually do besides sit sround a huge table bickering at one another? It's ridiculous. They all know about it, but won't send any kind of U.N. peacekeeping force to help? What's the red tape that's preventing anything from being done?
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| May 31, 2007 @ 1:45 AM |
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SensualGemini
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Oh, come on Empty... you know why; they ran out of those pretty blue hats... 
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| May 31, 2007 @ 1:47 AM |
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emptypages
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I second sending Sharpton and Jackson there. Odd how they haven't ever mentioned the issue themselves.
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| May 31, 2007 @ 1:58 AM |
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SensualGemini
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...No money in the people's pockets of Darfur for Sharpton and Jackson to reach into. And they damn sure are not sending any...
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| May 31, 2007 @ 2:04 AM |
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grumblebear
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Dutch Oil? as in Royal Dutch Shell?
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| May 31, 2007 @ 2:13 AM |
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SensualGemini
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Dutch Oil? as in Royal Dutch Shell? ...Yes, both Royal Dutch and BP have been in neighboring Lybia for a couple of years now; mostly for natural gas.
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| Jun 1, 2007 @ 3:48 AM |
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MortisDruss
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I thought we weren't suppossed to get involved in civil wars.
Huh......
Imagine that....
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| Jun 1, 2007 @ 11:56 AM |
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kjac
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I thought we weren't suppossed to get involved in civil wars.
And yet, we are in Iraq. Like I said, nothing was learned.
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| Jun 1, 2007 @ 12:18 PM |
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bryan2992
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kjac, the civil war in iraq started after we got there.
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| Jun 1, 2007 @ 12:28 PM |
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kjac
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Because we got there bryan, not after. We created the job vacancy, and the civil war started to figure out who should fill it.
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| Jun 4, 2007 @ 5:33 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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UNITED NATIONS, May 22 (Reuters) - U.S. Sen. Joe Biden said that he would commit U.S. forces immediately to stop militia in Sudan's Darfur region as long as there were reports of genocide.
Biden, a presidential candidate and chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said on Monday that in his personal opinion nations had at "some point to cede their sovereignty" if they engaged in genocide.
I am for this war, and the next.
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