| Aug 1, 2007 @ 10:48 PM |
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iam7545
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Now before all of you liberals freak this is from the Washington Post - the article it is discussing was also published in the Washington Post - Now - suppose Fox news did a report like this - the moonbats would go nuts! So how do they get away with this?
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign has sent out a fundraising letter calling a Washington Post fashion writer's column on Clinton's cleavage "grossly inappropriate" and asking donors "to take a stand against this kind of coarseness and pettiness in American culture."
One week after the piece, by fashion writer Robin Givhan, took note of the Democratic candidate's low neckline during a speech on the Senate floor, senior Clinton adviser Ann Lewis urged donors to help fight treatment she termed "insulting."
Givhan, who won a Pulitzer Prize last year, said she disagreed "that there was anything in the column that was coarse, insulting or belittling. It was a piece about a public person's appearance on the Senate floor that was surprising because of the location and because of the person. It's disingenuous to think that revealing cleavage, any amount of it, in that kind of situation is a non-issue.
"It's obviously not the most important thing in the campaign. It's obviously not the most important thing Hillary Clinton has ever done by any means."
Stories about the appearance of candidates, from Al Gore's earth-tones wardrobe to John Edwards's $400 haircut to a bathing-suit shot of Barack Obama in a People spread on "Beach Babes," have long been an entertaining sideshow. But since no journalist has plunged into this particular territory, given the exclusively male nature of past White House contests, Givhan's Style column has sparked plenty of reaction, much of it negative. Boston Globe columnist Ellen Goodman wrote today that Givhan "managed to make a media mountain out of a half-inch valley."
Lewis, who has complained to Post ombudsman Deborah Howell, said she was "appalled" by the column but initially dismissed it as "an inside-the-Beltway story."
"I didn't realize the attention and the anger it was setting off nationally ..... Women either read it or heard about it. They were indignant on Hillary's behalf and also on their own." Lewis says she has not discussed the matter with the New York senator.
Lewis's fundraising letter begins: "Can you believe that The Washington Post wrote a 746-word article on Hillary's cleavage? ..... I've seen some off-topic press coverage--but talking about body parts? That is grossly inappropriate.
"Frankly, focusing on women's bodies instead of their ideas is insulting. It's insulting to every women who has ever tried to be taken seriously in a business meeting. It's insulting to our daughters--and our sons--who are constantly pressured by the media to grow up too fast."
Two years ago, Givhan chastised Vice President Cheney for wearing a fur-trimmed olive parka to a ceremony in Poland marking the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz. In April, Givhan took note of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her "generous collection of scarves" during a tour of the Middle East. The column on cleavage, as spotted on C-SPAN2, described Clinton's clothing choice as a "small acknowledgment of sexuality and femininity" that departed from her usual "desexualized uniform" of black pantsuits.
"Robin has consistently raised similar questions over the years about both men and women who are in the public eye," said Steve Reiss, The Post's deputy assistant managing editor for Style. "We know these people take a great deal of care in how they present themselves on TV and in public, and that is fair game for analysis." Noting that the newspaper has run dozens of articles on Clinton's policy positions and background, Reiss said, "I don't feel we have anything to apologize for."
Politicians often rip the media over what they see as unfavorable coverage, hoping to score points against an unpopular institution. But the cleavage letter is undoubtedly a first in the annals of campaign counterpunching.
"I would never say the column was about a body part," Givhan said. "It was about a style of dress. People have gone down the road of saying, 'I can't believe you're writing about her breasts.' I wasn't writing about her breasts. I was writing about her neckline."
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| Aug 1, 2007 @ 11:07 PM |
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LongRanger278
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Yup I agree, her cleavage is grossly. Bride of Chucky comes to mind 
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| Aug 1, 2007 @ 11:21 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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I did hear about this. I also heard some men somewhere discussing Hillary's "big butt".
It's disgusting.
I mean maybe it's just as bad when I talk about how hot John Edwards is...I don't know.
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| Aug 1, 2007 @ 11:37 PM |
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ToucherinSparks
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Yeah yeah.... So does she have a nice rack?
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| Aug 1, 2007 @ 11:40 PM |
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iam7545
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dont know - the WaPo didnt say - you will have to ask Rosary O'Donnell!
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| Aug 1, 2007 @ 11:44 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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So does she have a nice rack?
no but her butt is ok 
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| Aug 1, 2007 @ 11:44 PM |
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uab_5
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Did you hear about the Hillary Clinton special at KFC? 
It includes a left wing, two small breasts, and fat thighs! 
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| Aug 1, 2007 @ 11:45 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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good, fat thighs are the best kind.
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| Aug 1, 2007 @ 11:45 PM |
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iam7545
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HOPE THEY DONT BOOT YOU FROM THE GANG! But that is FUNNY!
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| Aug 1, 2007 @ 11:54 PM |
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uab_5
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I never liked Hillary.
The White House lawn ought to say vacant 'til 20012 because our choice of candidates is so poor. 
Unless a good, positive, Republican turns out next November, odds I'll vote Democratic as the default.
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| Aug 2, 2007 @ 12:00 AM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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i like rudy giuliani...i might volunteer for his campaign. i'm not a liberal like a lot of people think i am, lol.
and i think barack is out.....
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| Aug 2, 2007 @ 12:01 AM |
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Nightowl001
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Iam, I will say the same thing I would have said if this was on Fox, CNN, or Jon Stewart...
Somebody has Wayyy too much time on their hands and is ignoring a lot of important issues to bring this crap up.
(I kinda like firm thighs myself.)
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| Aug 2, 2007 @ 12:02 AM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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then you wouldn't like me....LOL
i always thought hillary was pretty, especially in the early 90s.
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| Aug 2, 2007 @ 12:05 AM |
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Nightowl001
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Shhhhh.... 
(I don't think Hillary is particularly unattractive until you include her personality.) 
Since you ARE the LipGlossQueen, which shade did you think looked best on Rudy?
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| Aug 2, 2007 @ 12:07 AM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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oh god.
uh...
let me think about it.
maybe a brown.
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| Aug 2, 2007 @ 12:15 AM |
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iam7545
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night - sumptin tells me that is Fox ran this all hell would break loose!
I never said anything nasty about her thighs - so when eastham comes back take responsibility!
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| Aug 2, 2007 @ 12:16 AM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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sumptin tells me that is Fox ran this all hell would break loose!
probably
'specially O'Reilly
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| Aug 2, 2007 @ 12:36 AM |
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Nightowl001
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Yeah, I'm sure they would have jumped on Fox. But I wouldn't have been part of the dogpile. Except, as I say, this was a non-issue to begin with. If the twit fashion reporter had mentioned and no one else had screamed it would have died a silent death. The fact that it was the Clinton campaign that created the furor about it apparently... well.. I don't know what to say. This is CREATING news by reacting to a nonissue, and nobody involved looks too smart for doing it, as far as I'm concerned.
I remember reading about (I was a precocious kid) President Kennedy's Innaugural Address attire (black top hat, gray morning coat with velvet lapels...  geez.. and of course Jackie couldn't peak out the window without someone reporting whether or not she had a hair out of place.
So, someone noticed her neckline. She should read it and say, "Hmm... I'll have to do that again!" (if she wants more attention for it) or say "Well, that outfit goes to Goodwill!" (if she doesn't.) End of value as a news story far as I'm concerned.
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| Aug 2, 2007 @ 2:18 AM |
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Gentlegiant127
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I wondered just how much cleavage she was showing, if it was really all that much, I looked online and found a photo of her on cspan that was supposedly what all the uproar is about and it didn't look like a big deal to me. Sure she is showing a little cleavage. So what? It wasn't a huge amount of cleavage from what I could see. I guess some old prudes might get offended by it, but I can't see most people caring about it if they see it. I think its being blown out of proportion. God forbid a woman in politics shows a little cleavage.
Here is the link where I saw the photo.
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| Aug 2, 2007 @ 2:38 AM |
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steveemac
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I never said anything nasty about her thighs - so when eastham comes back take responsibility!
Eastham most likely couldn't care less what you -or anybody else- said about Hillary's personal appearance; she has shown herself to be concerned with subtance...you seem to be the one more concerned with fluff; after all, you started this thread.
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