| Nov 26, 2007 @ 8:17 PM |
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onoudn
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I can remember clearly the assassinations of the Doctor Martin Luther King, Malcom X, the Black Patchers, JFK, and his brother Bobby Kennedy. There was an inherent message in the murders of these civil rights icons. For many African-American that message was that Martin Luther Kings dream of cultural equality was just that, nothing more than an idealistic dream.
Fast forward to 2007. For the first time in American history an African-American is running a realistic bid for the President of the United States. But, as I consider who I should cast my vote for during the upcoming Nevada primary, I can't help but feel an anxious concern for Senator Barrack Obama. Can he win ? Has American evolved to the point that an African-American can actually become President ? Or will history simply repeat itself ?
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| Nov 26, 2007 @ 8:29 PM |
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iam7545
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He has a better chance than Billary - There hasn't been a Political assassination in many moons! I wouldn't worry about - there is too much apathy.
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| Nov 26, 2007 @ 11:14 PM |
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whatagal
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I'm ready to put a black WOMAN in the white house. Condi for president!! 
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| Nov 26, 2007 @ 11:16 PM |
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iam7545
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Condi - don't we wish! I love her!
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| Nov 26, 2007 @ 11:22 PM |
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onoudn
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She won't run. How about Ophrah ?
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| Nov 26, 2007 @ 11:26 PM |
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iam7545
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O - with all of her money - she could buy her way in! Thats for sure!
FAct is that Obama is only the Fifth Black Senator in History - the first two were in the late 1800's and were from of all places - Mississippi!
It was almost 100 years before the next Black was elected to Senate!
It is unlikely that a Black could be elected - sad as it is!
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| Nov 27, 2007 @ 12:43 AM |
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Say_Yes
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I doubt that America is ready for a black president. Perhaps if Colin Powell was to run, he might have a chance, but otherwise, I doubt it.
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| Nov 27, 2007 @ 1:48 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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Sure, America is ready for a black president, the question is only which black American should be president?
Dr;. Bill Cosby? Justice Clarence Thomas? Condoleeza Rice? Who?
Most certainly not any Black :Liberal Democrat President and that IS NOT a racist remark, since it is well known that I would oppose any Liberal for president no matter what his or her race is.
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| Nov 27, 2007 @ 6:24 PM |
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Bj864
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Most certainly not any Black :Liberal Democrat President and that IS NOT a racist remark, since it is well known that I would oppose any Liberal for president no matter what his or her race is.
You have only told us about a thousand times how you feel about "liberals". 
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| Nov 27, 2007 @ 7:23 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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You have only told us about a thousand times how you feel about "liberals".
So it is no surprise to anyone that I would support a black conservative over a white liberal when it comes to Presidential politics.
I guess that puts any hope of calling me a bigot into the toilet.
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| Nov 27, 2007 @ 7:45 PM |
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Nightowl001
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From Wiki:
A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own.
Don't worry, Para. You still qualify.
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| Nov 27, 2007 @ 8:15 PM |
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uab_5
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Some how the title of this thread reminds me of a line from Blazing Saddles.... 
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| Nov 27, 2007 @ 9:01 PM |
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Loreli
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America is ready for a GOOD president.
Whether we get one or not is a crapshoot.
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| Nov 27, 2007 @ 9:44 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own.
It appears that this is the precise definition of a LIBERAL.
A LIBERAL is a BIGOT that is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of persons of varying opinions from their own, such as prolife supporters, tax cutters, or those who support the military; and if someone is opposed to the gay legislative agenda and does not support the lifestyle of the gays or trans-gender identity swappers then the Liberals say such person is not fit for high public office.
Liberals are so intolerant of other opinions, straight lifestyles, or natural gender identities where men are sexually attracted to women, that it can be said that they ar Bigots, according to the definition posted above.
What was the source of that great quote?
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| Nov 27, 2007 @ 10:09 PM |
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willsmalto
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not just a black president but is America ready for a good, selfless, a-man-of-his-word kind of president? I mean a president who's ready to bring change and unite the country, a president who doesn't go to war based on false intelligence, a man/woman who's capable of 1) putting an end to the war in Iraq without any casualties and carefully bringing our troops back home safely. when I look at all those big mouth politicians, Obama seems to be the only one that one can really trust, not cos I'm black too but that guy's ready to unite and bring change to this country.
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| Nov 27, 2007 @ 10:27 PM |
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onoudn
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Thanks wills. I'm just taken aback by the term bigot being used to describe liberals. It seems to me that its the conservatives that fit that bill. For instance, its Bush that wants a constitutional admendment to ban gay marraige, want faith-based organizations to be able to discriminate against employees' and clients based on relgion, has failed to provide funding to HUD and other civil rights enforcement menchanism, and is generally percieved by minorities and women as the party that doesn't care about them.
Now, I know the Republican party is the party of Lincoln, but its the democrats that passed the civil rights bill, it was Bobby and John Kennedy that fought the hardest against segragation. Hell Bush refused to meet with the NAACP, the first President to ever do that. But, given the fact that they were slandering him so much I might try to look over it, I might. Its just he's the President and people have a right to express their opinion about him. He should invite it, not punish people for expressing how disappointed they are in him.
Obama's people came to visit an Veterans organization that I do volunteer work for. I wasn't there but I here he's people made quite an impression on the Veterans. No other candidate seems to want to talk about the issue of Veterans that much. I'm starting to lean towards Obama a little more. I have been supporting Hillary Clinton. But, she's running on a platform of status quo. And has the nerve to criticized Obama for not being that experienced. I seem to remember a Governor from Arkansas running on a platform of change. How does she reconcile her oppositon towards Obama platform of change when her husband ran on the same message ? Is she now admitting that she's part of the system ?
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| Nov 27, 2007 @ 10:30 PM |
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Nightowl001
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Liberals are so intolerant of other opinions, straight lifestyles, or natural gender identities where men are sexually attracted to women, that it can be said that they ar Bigots, according to the definition posted above.
What was the source of that great quote?
The source was the definition of bigot according to Wikipedia. Learn to read. I wrote, "From Wiki:"
And it's not that liberals are intolerant of all those things you say (there ya go puttin' words in other people's mouths again; that's a really, really bad habit). We are tolerant. You can be straight as a ramrod. You can believe anything you like about gender identities. You can believe it's wrong to laugh on Sundays. You can believe whatever you want, no matter how wrong it is. You just can't foist your narrow judgmental moral code on the majority of people in this country (or the world) who believe differently than you do. And when you voice your barbaric calls for viciously wiping out other cultures or religions or races, don't be surprised if more enlightened people shout you down in great numbers.
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| Nov 27, 2007 @ 11:01 PM |
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onoudn
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You know night. I used to be really open-minded about a lot of things. But over the last 12 years or so the stakes have been raised on a lot of issues that hit home for me in a personal way. I've been discriminated against based on my religious beliefs more in the years since the republicans have had power than any other time in my life. Before it didn't matter. I practiced my faith and if people wanted to know about it I would discuss it. I had open and frank discussion with people in a civil manner. But, since this right-wing religious movement has been going on I've noticed there has been a aggressiveness on the part of christian conservatives in the discussion that wasn't there before. There has been what I've called a " call to arms" by a lot of people who seem to by in to the rethoric. There's the same aggressiveness in the manner issues like civil rights, immigration, abortion, same sex marraige. I have to admit I feel pulled up under the collar most of the time on a lot of issues, and its soiled my open-mindedness somewhat. Still I don't think that makes me a bigot. I am more anxious, guarded, fearful about where this country is headed though.
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| Nov 28, 2007 @ 3:29 AM |
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Say_Yes
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From Wiki:
A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own.
Don't worry, Para. You still qualify.
Not to worry, so do you Nightowl. After all, you are just as intollerant of conservatives, as they are of liberals. By the above definition, that would make you (and almost everyone else on here, including me) a bigot.
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| Nov 28, 2007 @ 7:22 AM |
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eastham
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It is remarkable that we still need to ask this question, yet given the behaviors witnessed in this campaign, it's apparent we haven't gotten past JFK's Catholic speech: Huckabee's whispering campaign that Brownback wasn't a "real" Christian because he's Catholic; the push polling in New Hampshire and Iowa about Romney's Mormonism; the campaign for Romney to give a Kennedy-like speech about Mormonism; the whispering campaign about Hillary Clinton's "relationship" with her assistant; and the list goes on.
Barak Obama is highly educated, served as a state legislator and now as United States Senator. We have elected men to the highest office with less experience.
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