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hotdognchilli
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Why not, we got a drunk that committed vehicular homicide sitting his fat haunches on the seat for the Senior Senator from Massachusetts, his first elected post in his life, and a man who never had a real job but instead simply had accomplished brothers.
Um I recall no conviction of this particular Senator. 
Do you not even believe in basic jurisprudence...innocence until proven guilty? 
You probably believe OJ killed his wife too...even after AN ACQUITTAL 
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| Jan 4 @ 2:46 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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Um I recall no conviction of this particular Senator.
I remember Senator Edward Kennedy's Barnstable County, Massachusetts court appearance and his sentence to probation.
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| Jan 4 @ 3:22 AM |
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hotdognchilli
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I remember Senator Edward Kennedy's Barnstable County, Massachusetts court appearance and his sentence to probation.
and the charge & conviction was? 
Few extra pounds
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| Jan 4 @ 5:20 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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and the charge & conviction was?
Ted Kennedy Plead Guilty to Leaving the Scene of an Accident
- The Kennedy brain trust agreed it would be beneficial to have a local lawyer defend the Senator against the charge of leaving the scene of the accident on Chappaquiddick. Attorney Richard McCarron, was chosen represent him.
- McCarron was concerned about the mandatory 20-day jail term in all cases of leaving the scene of an accident where personal injury had occurred.
- The District Court Judge assigned to hear the case was James A. Boyle, known as a stickler for strict adherence to statuatory rules when it came to sentencing.
- Kennedy told McCarron, "Don't worry about it. He's already made up his mind."
- At 9:00 AM, the court clerk called the first case on the docket:
The Commonwealth of Massachusetts versus Edward M. Kennedy "This complaint charges that Edward M. Kennedy of Boston, Mass., on the 19th day of July, 1969, at Edgartown, did operate a certain motor vehicle upon a public way in said Edgartown and did go away after knowingly causing injury to Mary Jo Kopechne without stopping and making known his name, residence and the number of his motor vehicle."
The clerk addressed Kennedy directly, "How do you plead? Guilty or not guilty?"
Kennedy hesitated. He looked at his attorneys. "Guilty," he said in a choked near-whisper, hardly audible.
- After Police Chief Arena was sworn in, he read a summary of the evidence from personal notes written on a single sheet of yellow paper. He made no mention of the party at Chappaquiddick, or the possibility that the Senator may have been intoxicated at the time of the accident - no other witnesses were called.
- Incredibly, Judge Boyle did not question Kennedy about what he had done in the hours after the accident. He was satisfied that the Senator's plea of 'guilty' was a confession to the crime, and no further questions were necessary.
- When Kennedy's guilty plea had been entered, McCarron argued against confinement of the defendant. McCarron said. "We would ask that any sentence that the court may impose be suspended."
- The prosecutor, Walter Steele, proposed incarceration in the Barnstable House of Correction for a period of two months.
- Because the defendant's prior driving history would directly influence the sentencing, Judge Boyle asked the chief probation officer, Helen Tyra, "There is no record of previous violations?" The Associated Press had circulated a story appearing in that morning's newspapers listing Ted Kennedy's record of previous traffic offenses in Virginia, but apparently, Tyra hadn't read the papers. "None, your Honor," she said. - "Considering the unblemished record of the defendant," Boyle said, "and insofar as the Commonwealth represents this is not a case where he was really trying to conceal his identity....." "No, sir!" Steele interjected firmly.
Boyle continued, "Where it is my understanding that Mr. Kennedy has already been, and will continue to be punished far beyond anything this court can impose, the ends of justice would be satisfied by the imposition of the minimum jail sentence and suspension of that sentence - assuming the defendant accepts the suspension." McCarron wasted no time in saying, "The defendant will accept the suspension, your Honor." Kennedy stood up, and the court clerk said, "Edward M. Kennedy, on the complaint the court has found you guilty and has sentenced you to serve two months in the House of Correction at Barnstable. Sentence is suspended."
- Ted Kennedy had a record of serious traffic violations. Particularly bothersome was a June, 1958 conviction for "reckless driving."
On March 14, 1958, Deputy Sheriff Thomas Whitten had been on routine highway patrol outside Charlottesville, Virginia, when an Oldsmobile convertible ran a red light, sped off, then cut its tail lights to elude pursuit. A license check revealed the car belonged to Edward M. Kennedy, a 26-year-old law student attending the University of Virginia. Kennedy had previously been fined $15 for speeding in March 1957. Whitten was on patrol at the same intersection a week later, he testified, "And here comes the same car. And to my surprise, he did exactly the same thing. He raced through the same red light, cut his lights when he got to the corner and made the right turn." Whitten gave chase. He found the car in a driveway, apparently unoccupied. Looking inside, he discovered the driver, Teddy Kennedy, stretched out on the front seat and hiding. Whitten issued a ticket for "reckless driving; racing with an officer to avoid arrest; and operating a motor vehicle without an operator's license (Mass. registration.)" Kennedy's attorneys were able to win numerous postponements, but eventually he was convicted on all charges and paid a $35 fine. Court officials never filed the mandatory notice of the case in the public docket, however, and Kennedy's name had not appeared on any arrest blotter. Instead, a local reporter discovered the case when he spotted 5 warrants in Kennedy's name in a court cash drawer. Three weeks after his trial, Ted Kennedy was caught speeding again, and still operating without a valid license. In December 1959, Kennedy was stopped again for running a red light and fined $10 and costs. In Whitten's view, "That boy had a heavy foot and a mental block against the color red. He was a careless, reckless driver who didn't seem to have a
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| Jan 4 @ 5:29 PM |
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Mission_Impossible139
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America is ready for any color of president be it black, blue, purple or orange. If they can elect a moron for 8 years, they can surely be ready for an intelligent person of any race.Mark my words, the Dems are a shoe in no matter who runs. The Republican money has dried up, many of the old boys are jumping ship as the Tsunami of Dems rolls across America like a steam roller. You'll soon see the war over, better health care with the schip passing OVERWHELMINGLY next time round. You'll see a big change and it's about time. Thank God.
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| Jan 4 @ 5:51 PM |
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Nightowl001
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I think there are enough radical racists left in this country to make an Obama presidency more dangerous than if he weren't black. I don't think there are enough people left who think that way to keep him from getting elected.
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| Jan 4 @ 8:03 PM |
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iam7545
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hey surfer DUDE -
I must disagree - If all you say is true then answer this -
How many black Senators have there been since 1900?
Obama is the third!
There were 2 before 1900 - both from Mississippi of all places. There were 70 years in between.
Senator Brooke - MA
Senator Brown ILL
and
Obama ILL
That means all these years and all of the liberal States have failed to produce a Black Senator!
While I agree that this is quite sickening it is obvious that Blacks have a hard time winning statewide election - much less a nationwide election.
Look what happened to Harold Ford in Tenn last year. There was no one more deserving to win and he lost in an election where the momentum was in the Dems favor. Ford is also quite moderate.
I will take any bets that anyone wants to post!
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| Jan 4 @ 8:10 PM |
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kjac
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I'll say it. If America isn't ready for a black president, they'd better get ready. The republicans are destroying their own party, bashing each other to pieces. Hillary just has this aura of sneakiness that makes people not trust her, and Edwards is...
Well, he's a little better than his namesake that talks to dead people, but not much.
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| Jan 4 @ 9:23 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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onoudn...said this..."The more I read on blogs and forums here the more I'm convinced that, if you use some of the people on MD as a measure----America is definetly not ready for a black President."...!!!!
It is to be seen if he gets elected or not! BUT, you get ready, here comes Barack Obama ready or not!!
He won Iowa with a better than 90% white population! I would say that is something to "crow" about!
I congratulate him! 
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| Jan 5 @ 12:28 AM |
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hotdognchilli
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Ted Kennedy Plead Guilty to Leaving the Scene of an Accident
So you posted a quantum leap.........to drunken vehicular homicide sitting on his fat haunches...WTF
So if Ted had an MD profile his weight would be a few extra pounds.
- Ted Kennedy had a record of serious traffic violations. Particularly bothersome was a June, 1958 conviction for "reckless driving."
OMG a traffic misdemeanor which is kept on record for 5 years. Pal this is 2008... 50 years later. 
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| Jan 5 @ 12:37 AM |
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pamdemonium
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With all due respect, can you please all leave the Massachusetts royalty out of the Black president issue? 
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| Jan 5 @ 12:44 AM |
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hotdognchilli
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Is Paralegal from mass.  
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| Jan 5 @ 12:46 AM |
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pamdemonium
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| Jan 5 @ 12:48 AM |
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hotdognchilli
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Royalty in his own mind.
Psst. his profile says "a few extra pounds" instead of fat haunches
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| Jan 5 @ 12:50 AM |
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pamdemonium
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Psst....so does mine! 
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| Jan 5 @ 12:51 AM |
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pamdemonium
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 dbl. posts
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| Jan 5 @ 12:53 AM |
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hotdognchilli
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few extra pounds times 2
Psst. PL has a picture which is like allota extra pounds
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| Jan 5 @ 12:54 AM |
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pamdemonium
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I'll have to see if I can photo shop ya one!
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| Jan 5 @ 12:54 AM |
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Mission_Impossible139
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How many black Senators have there been since 1900?
That remark is about as relevant as the price of tea in China.
You still haven't committed to a candidate? What's up with that pussie?
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| Jan 5 @ 12:57 AM |
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hotdognchilli
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who's a pussie? 
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