| Nov 30, 2007 @ 10:41 AM |
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DiamondRain
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This is what we are up against people.
Thousands of Muslims with weapons demanding death for an innocent teacher who was trying to help children.
Do you want this in your country? We must take steps to ensure it never happens here.
Thousands of protesters, many brandishing clubs and swords, took to the streets of Sudan’s capital Friday, demanding the execution of a British teacher who let her students name a teddy bear Muhammad.
Gillian Gibbons, 54, was found guilty Thursday of insulting Islam and sentenced to 15 days in jail. She was spared the more serious punishment of 40 lashes.
Read the article here...
Sudanese call for teddy bear teacher's death
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| Nov 30, 2007 @ 11:43 AM |
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Nightowl001
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We must take steps to ensure it never happens here.
What is it you want to stop from happening here? Conservative fundamentalists calling for a punishment for something they view as a crime and demonstrating in support of their position? Here,.in the United States, that would violate their rights to free speech and right to assembly. If you want to outlaw this demonstration, you'd outlaw demonstrations at abortion clinics by conservative Christians. Fact is, you can't stop any Muslim group here from a similar demonstration without violating their rights.
I don't know why you keep referring to her as innocent. She was found guilty of breaking a law in that country.
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| Nov 30, 2007 @ 11:47 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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I find it admirable that at least one Republican insists that civil rights be protected. Admittedly, only when it applies to a foreign government, but it's a start...
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| Nov 30, 2007 @ 12:06 PM |
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DiamondRain
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I don't know why you keep referring to her as innocent. She was found guilty of breaking a law in that country.
And you consider a law against naming a teddy bear a certain name a just law?
No mater how unjust the law, how tyrannical the society and how barbaric the punishment, if someone violates that law, they cannot be an innocent person?
What is it you want to stop from happening here?
The exact steps that we are taking already but that the Democrats are trying to thwart.
Go overseas and kill these barbarians wherever they are before they come here to kill more of us. Just like we have done in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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[Edited on 11/30/2007 12:14 PM]
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| Nov 30, 2007 @ 12:16 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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Going over to kill the barbarians before they kill us, just like we have done in Iraq and Afghanistan.
So you're in favor of invading a third country, when we're already over-extended in two countries?
And killing barbarians is a short-term solution which produces as many problems as it solves. Cutting off their source of revenue would be a better long-term solution. We're spending a lot of money and a lot of soldiers' lives to get that cheap oil, so it'd be nice to leave the region to descend into the Stone Age, as they very much wish to do.
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| Nov 30, 2007 @ 12:17 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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DiamondRain..said this...."Going over to kill the barbarians before they kill us, just like we have done in Iraq and Afghanistan.."....!!!
"The Muslims Are Coming...The Muslims Are Coming"!!! 
The same kind of mentality the poster is showing is what we are faced with in most Muslim countries today!
I am wondering is "The Sky Falling"? Or, does he have his finger "Stuck Into The Dike"? 
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| Nov 30, 2007 @ 12:20 PM |
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kjac
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Invading Iraq is what turned it into a terrorist hotbed. Only an idiot would think that creating another terrorist hotbed is a solution to fighting terrorism.
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| Nov 30, 2007 @ 12:24 PM |
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Nightowl001
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Let's see. We should go over there and kill all of them before they come over here and kill any more of us. Where have I heard that? Oh, yeah. That's what Bin Laden wants.
I don't know why you two don't get along better, DR, since you want the same thing.
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| Nov 30, 2007 @ 12:27 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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Invading Iraq is what turned it into a terrorist hotbed. Only an idiot would think that creating another terrorist hotbed is a solution to fighting terrorism.
Ah, but at a cost of only around 80k civilian deaths and 4k American deaths (among the military; no idea about the mercenaries), we've finally contained the terrorists.
Sure, the ethnically- and religiously-diverse regions are now pretty much homogenous, and we have to keep 450k troops on hand to keep them from each others' throats still...
We've got another half a million troops lying around, don't we?
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| Dec 1, 2007 @ 12:05 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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Sure, the ethnically- and religiously-diverse regions are now pretty much homogenous, and we have to keep 450k troops on hand to keep them from each others' throats still...
We've got another half a million troops lying around, don't we?
Can you say Iran?
Am for this war and the next!
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| Dec 1, 2007 @ 12:12 AM |
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iam7545
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dr - I just read this - the freakin Teddy Bear was named after a student in the class whose name is -
You guessed it - Mohammed! Not the freakin Prophet!
I think we should ignore these assholes and let them continue to kill each other off - these same Muslims just murdered 2-300,000 people in Darfur in the past couple of years!
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| Dec 1, 2007 @ 7:12 AM |
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SHYBLONDE48
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Thousands of Muslims with weapons demanding death for an innocent teacher who was trying to help children.
Well I think those people are nuts but the teacher did break the rules over there  . Of course that rule is stupid to me and I think those people are nuts.
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| Dec 2, 2007 @ 4:31 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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I think we should all give "Muhammad Teddy Bears" for Christmas. Insulting Islam is not a crime. It is an example of freedom of religion and free speech.
I am now calling for the invasion and partition of The Sudan. Lets round up the Janjaweed Militia that crosses into our unilaterally declared Darfur DMZ and hang them all on the spot as war criminals for being armed in a DMZ.
A free and independent Christian State of Darfur makes a lot of sense to me, since the Sudanese Moslems screwed everything up there and have demonstrated to the world that they are unworthy of ruling the people of Darfur.
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| Dec 2, 2007 @ 5:32 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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para.....That would be something you should write a letter to Bush about. Since he has allowed the genocide to continue while he counted his money stolen from our treasury!
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| Dec 2, 2007 @ 7:39 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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the teacher did break the rules over there
The TEACHER DID NOT NAME THE BEAR MUHAMMAD. One of the Children says he named the Bear after himself.
The Teacher is being charged with allowing the children to name the bear.
The rules over there need to be abolished and freedom of religion and freedom of speech should be made the law of the land, if need be by force of arms.
What the Sudan is doing to the Teacher is called Crimes Against Humanity
Anyone who can show me a provision in the Koran that says that a Teddy Bear cannot be named Muhhammad, please step forward and show me.
An "insult" is a slur in the mind of the recipient. Sometimes, an innocent has no concept of why an Islamic fanatic would take offense at a particular word or deed.
This is why Islamic states must be banned and only states authorizing freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and bona fide civil rights should be tolerated to exist in the 21st Century.
[Edited on 12/2/2007 9:34 PM]
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| Dec 2, 2007 @ 7:55 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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para...Remember a few years ago a young man went to I believe Singapore...took out a can of spray paint and sprayed grafitti on some building or whatever? Well, he got forty whacks for his sophomoric prank!
My meaning is this Americans or any other nationality needs to understand when entering another country you are bound by their laws! BTW, the young man learned his lesson he has not, to my knowledge, sprayed any more buildings!
Do I believe what they did was right in the womans situation...NO!
Muslim countries have laws that we would not tolerate! But, those laws are their laws of the land!
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| Dec 2, 2007 @ 9:43 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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Muslim countries have laws that we would not tolerate! But, those laws are their laws of the land!
"Insulting Islam" in the case of the Teddy is pretty vague. When I insult Islam, it does not have to be constructive because its overt.
The world needs to band together and abolish state religions and the secular government punishment for religious crimes. Religious crimes are an example of Crimes against Humanity.
Actress Mia Farrow launched a fund to support survivors of the fighting in Sudan's Darfur region Sunday, and said that the jailing of a British teacher in the African nation showed the cruelty of its leadership.
"This is the first genocide of the 21st century and the one genocide that is ongoing as we speak," said Farrow, a goodwill ambassador for UNICEF who has visited Darfur seven times since 2004. "We have a regime that launched a military campaign on an unarmed population for no other reason than that they are not Arab."
At a news conference at a London hotel, Farrow said the imprisonment of British teacher for allowing her students in Sudan to name a teddy bear Muhammad "demonstrates the palpable insanity and cruelty of that regime."
Farrow said she hopes the international media coverage of Gibbons' ordeal will open the eyes of the West to what is happening in Sudan.
"One white woman in peril with a teddy bear has captured more media attention than the past three years of our brothers and sisters in the Darfur region," she said.
At least 200,000 people have died and 2.5 million been forced from their homes in four years of fighting between the Sudanese government and local rebels in Darfur.
The international community spends over $1 billion a year to alleviate suffering in Darfur, yet world powers have proved reluctant to send troops or costly equipment like helicopters to protect civilians and aid workers, who face growing threats and lack of access.
Money donated to the newly created Fund4Darfur will be used to help survivors of the conflict and refugees, Farrow said. Aegis Trust -- an independent, international organization dedicated to eliminating genocide -- will operate the fund.
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| Dec 4, 2007 @ 8:34 AM |
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Blondino
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Gillian Gibbons today in England said
Ms Gibbons was flown overnight from Sudan to London, where she was met by her son John and daughter Jessica at Heathrow airport after her flight touched shortly after 0700 GMT (1800 AEDT).
She now plans to spend Christmas with her "long suffering family" and then hunt for a new job, possibly overseas.
And she had plenty of praise for Sudan, despite her ordeal.
"I am very sorry to leave Sudan," she said.
"I had a fabulous time there. It's a really lovely place and I managed to see some of the beautiful countryside while I was there.
"The Sudanese people I found to be extremely kind and extremely generous and until this happened I only had a good experience.
"I wouldn't like it to put anybody off going to Sudan.
"In fact, I know of a lovely school that needs a new ... teacher."
Asked if she was terrified during her stint in prison, Ms Gibbon's replied: "I was. That's an understatement."
Remember not to use stereotypes and labels when discussing a Regime .. she loved the people
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| Dec 4, 2007 @ 4:15 PM |
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DiamondRain
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One theme is obvious...
Apologists for Islamic terrorism and barbarism (both Muslim and non-Muslim) are always looking for someone else to blame and never EVER blame the actual terrorists for their behavior. Their favorite whipping boy being the United States.
As bazaar and twisted as that is, it's easily understandable because they know that they are free to speak about the US in such a way without fearing reprisal. Try doing that with these Islamic aholes.
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| Dec 4, 2007 @ 4:36 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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DiamondRain...said this..."One theme is obvious...
Apologists for Islamic terrorism and barbarism (both Muslim and non-Muslim) are always looking for someone else to blame and never EVER blame the actual terrorists for their behavior. Their favorite whipping boy being the United States.
As bazaar and twisted as that is, it's easily understandable because they know that they are free to speak about the US in such a way without fearing reprisal. Try doing that with these Islamic aholes.".....!!!!!
I see you don't like our Constitution or the Bill of Rights! OK...maybe you need to move to Russia? Or China...Sudan....just pick a place and move, please!
You are one of those people that are always going around saying it is ok for me to say what I want but, anyone else saying anything it is against the law....my law....gods law...republican law...or anyone else's law you want to name it except...The Law Of The Land!!! 
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