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iam7545

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O - she COMPLETELY missed the entire situation in Pakistan. Not a clue!
Unfortunately the two most experienced people for either Party Richardson and Biden, have dropped out. Their resume's were Presidential.
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| Jan 5 @ 5:28 PM |
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onoudn

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I guess people are sick of the same o same o. What's even more unfortunate is whats happening on the Republican side. Although, its starting to look bad for Romney. I must admit I'm going to be really happy not to have to see his smirking Ferret face any more. Good riddens to bad rubbish.
Biden missed his time. I don't know why he didn't do so well. Except he's up against candidates that bring the promise of a new America, one that we all can be proud of.
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| Jan 5 @ 5:31 PM |
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iam7545

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American Research has Obama up by 12 in NH -
>>>>>>>>>>>> Billary Be Cooked <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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| Jan 5 @ 5:32 PM |
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Nightowl001

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Friday's Rasmussen Reports said:
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Hillary Clinton slipping back below the 40% level of support nationally.
In the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, it’s Clinton 38%, Barack Obama 26% and John Edwards 18%. No other candidate tops 2% nationally. It's funny that anyone can think it's over for Clinton in light of still leading her nearest contender in national polls for the Democratic contender's spot by 12%.
It's going to take a big slide, or an even bigger bump for Obama, for her not to carry Super Tuesday. With over half the total delegates up for grabs on Super Tuesday, no one can campaign in all 20 (or is it 21 now?) states holding their primaries or caucases that day within the next month. It will be a much better barometer of where the nation's preferences lie than Iowa was.
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| Jan 5 @ 5:33 PM |
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onoudn

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Even if Obama does win New Hampshire Hillary is still ahead by 20 points in the national polls.
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| Jan 5 @ 5:36 PM |
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onoudn

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Still, it was a decision to pay a price he could have gotten out of. So I will still refer to him as a hero.
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| Jan 5 @ 5:42 PM |
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iam7545

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O - the national poll is not as timely as the current primary polls which they do just about every day. Also, the domino effect is in play or MOmentum. Below is a video of Billary being booed at a Dem event yesterday in NH! When Edwards drops out Obama will pick up most of his votes.
She needs to find some dirt on Barak or she is a dead duck!
She better do it fast!
>>>>>>>>>> Billary BOOED at Dem Dinner! Eat that! <<<<<<<<<<<<
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| Jan 5 @ 5:47 PM |
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kjac

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Digging up dirt to avoid the issues is more a republican thing. They've been really good at it lately. Sadly, the only ones not avoiding the issues have no real knowledge of them.
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| Jan 5 @ 5:49 PM |
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onoudn

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I noticed you forgot to mention that she was cheered by her supporter. The people that booed were obviously Obama supporters, or someone other than Senator Clinton supporters. This isn't all that uncommon.
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| Jan 5 @ 5:53 PM |
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iam7545

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KJAC -- the Clintonistas are notorious for sliming people. They have had to scapegoat and fire several top aides already.
Do you recall-
Obama - maybe a Drug Dealer?
or
Obama's KINDERFREAKINGARDEN papers? They dug up a paper he wrote in PRE SCHOOL
No - the Republicans did not invent slime. The Billary Beast is quite good at it!
Looks like the Clintonistas have already started -
from Bob Parks -
>>>>>>>>>>>> More Slime from the Cintonistas <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Obama: "The Neighboring Boy" Saturday January 05th 2008, 5:39 pm Filed under: Bob Parks, Politics, Vox Populi
The traditional names were directed my way when I warned Barack Obama of the pending racism he'd receive from liberals. You see, I'm "sucking up to whitey"….
In order to illustrate the fact that the Democrat Party is home to the majority of racists in America, I promised to alert you to every incident of Democrat-on-Black racist comments as they occur. Seeing how I am so wrong and all the Black folk who piled on are so right, I shouldn't find any racist comments from the left.
Well it didn't take long….
To the horror of a poster at the Daily Kos:
UPDATE - Clinton fundraiser: Obama is "the neighboring boy"! by benthos Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 09:45:54 AM PST
Just listening to Democracy Now!, and Amy Goodman is hosting a roundtable discussion with supporters of democratic presidential candidates about the Iowa Caucus.
Ellen Chesler is representing the Clinton campaign. Here is her bio:
She is Distinguished Lecturer at the City University of New York and the author of "Woman of Valor: Margaret Sanger and the Birth Control Movement in America." Long-time friend and fundraiser for Hillary Clinton.
In trying to explain the victory of Obama, she just characterized him as "The neighboring boy," refering to him being from Illinois.
Does this raise any racist flags for anyone else, or am I just being paranoid?
I am sick of this level of crap out of the Clinton campaign. This statement is just as bad as the one that got that Shaheen guy fired.
So the big questions for me are:
Is Ellen Chesler speaking officially for the Clinton campaign? Who arranged her appearance on DN!?
Will the Clinton campaign sever its ties with Chesler after her remark?
They damn well should.
This kind of crap has got to stop.
[Edited on 1/5/2008 5:58 PM]
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| Jan 5 @ 5:58 PM |
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Nightowl001

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No - the Republicans did not invent slime. The Billary Beast is quite good at it! Who do you think she learned it from? They educated her quite well back when she was a Republican, before Nixon.
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| Jan 5 @ 5:59 PM |
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kjac

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Maybe they should teach Huckababy then. He tries really hard, but he's just not that good at it.
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| Jan 5 @ 6:00 PM |
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iam7545

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Hey NO - maybe the Clintonistas have Rove working for them - whatta ya think?
She sure better, she is a dead duck now!
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| Jan 5 @ 6:00 PM |
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Nightowl001

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Hillary is smarter than Huckleberry. She's probably a quick study.
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| Jan 5 @ 6:06 PM |
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kjac

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My cat is smarter than Huckie. Sadly, those even less intelligent than him are falling for his 5th grade politics.
I know some people attack Bush's intelligence, but I refuse to believe America as a whole is stupid enough to elect the village idiot to be president.
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| Jan 5 @ 6:11 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy

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All I can say is, for once iam is making me happy. Hillary is unelectable, what with her 48% automatic "wouldn't vote for her" status. Obama is a little better, but would prefer Edwards of the current bunch.
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@ kjac: Don't get too high an opinion of the American voters. They'd elect anyone, if they thought he'd be the kind they'd want to sit around and have a beer with. It's so Fahrenheit 451 (i.e. the parties are choosing candidates for superficial reasons, rather than for the depth of character, breadth of experience, and height of intelligence).
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| Jan 5 @ 6:12 PM |
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iam7545

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The slime is in the mail
Apparently Billary dropped a mailing in NH sliming Obama as we speak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THE SLIME IS IN THE MAIL! <<<<<<<<<<<<
MANCHESTER, N.H. (AP) - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton criticizes rival Barack Obama's record on abortion rights in a mailing sent to New Hampshire voters.
The mailer says that seven times during his time in the Illinois state Senate, Obama declined to take a position on abortion bills, while Clinton has been a defender of abortion rights.
During his eight years in the legislature, Obama cast a number of votes on abortion and received a 100 percent rating from the Illinois Planned Parenthood Council for his support of abortion rights, family planning services and health insurance coverage for female contraceptives. He voted against requiring medical care for aborted fetuses who survive, a vote that especially riled abortion opponents.
He also joined other state Democrats in voting present on some bills.
The mailing comes amid division within the Clinton campaign over how negative to go against Obama after his victory Thursday in the Iowa caucuses. The campaign has made a decision to hold off on any television advertising, positive or negative, until after a nationally televised debate Saturday night.
Obama also has been criticized by the political arm of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, which has endorsed Clinton. Seven international vice presidents sent a letter protesting the "wholesale assault on one of the great friends of our union."
"Supposedly, we are involved in this primary because we're concerned about access to the next Democratic president," the signers argued. "So why would we want to develop a hostile relationship with the man who could be that next president?"
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| Jan 5 @ 6:45 PM |
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Nightowl001

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MANCHESTER, N.H. (AP) - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton criticizes rival Barack Obama's record on abortion rights in a mailing sent to New Hampshire voters.
The mailer says that seven times during his time in the Illinois state Senate, Obama declined to take a position on abortion bills, while Clinton has been a defender of abortion rights.
He also joined other state Democrats in voting present on some bills. You call this slime? Is it true? Did Obama decline taking a position and vote "present" on 7 bills dealing with abortion during his term in the state legislature?
That's not slime. That's a legitimate criticism of his position as compared to hers.
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| Jan 5 @ 6:54 PM |
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iam7545

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NO - I really do not care what you call it. It is an attack mailing. A mailing that was NOT slime would only speak to the candidates position that paid for the mailing. You can call it a comparison mailing or whatever you want.
Obama has stuck to his promise to keep his campaign positive. Many attribute his success thus far for staging a decent campaign. He has taken much flak for his mostly positive position being called a wimp while people are clamoring for him to attack. I admire him for his well run positive campaign.
He has done an excellent job of exploiting Billarys childish attacks. He often refers to his kindergarten papers- tongue in cheek, in interviews. In the debates he goes after Billary in a sensible direct manner.
BTW NO - I agree with your statement below - - It is like he has lived his political life knowing he would be elevated at a rapid pace. When one tries to pin him down on his record it is like trying to find a ghost!
Did Obama decline taking a position and vote "present" on 7 bills dealing with abortion during his term in the state legislature?
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| Jan 5 @ 6:57 PM |
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kjac

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I wonder if Obama will take the same approach when he goes up against the republican slime machine?
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