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Dec 18, 2007 @ 4:35 AM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
Paralegal_at_Law


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Before the ForumMod posted Front and Center I was personally sharp with an antagonist on occasion. I regret having done that. Now I vent only against public figures and groups of persons without condemning any particular person. However, the following quotes are some, but by no means all of the examples of the prevailing hostile climate on MatchDoctor Forums with regard to personal attacks (and not all were directed against me) which the MODS have politely asked us all to refrain from:

Alievenwell351: Thank you Mr. PAL...Now take a few deep breaths, take a couple of valiums, and take a nap...you'll feel better!!!

Blondino: you are one of the bullies in here

any day steve .... Fatso

Youaremissed: lefty if you weren't so pathetically dense and mentally deranged you'd be funny...What do you not understand about the independent voter status Come on you big mouth fool, tell me the definition of an independent voter... Oh I forgot you avoid truth IMHO you need mental help, you are insane and should be gagged and locked up...

BJ864: consider just about every post I have read from you to be radical and arrogant.


Lefthandedlucki Like I said....about 12 years old!!

Now, you go and bother someone else...little boy!!

Steveemac it might be as simple as pulling your head out of your ass.

Sweetnapaguy: You want everyone to goose-step along with you? What is this, 1930s Germany? We live in a purported democracy, not some militaristic wet-dream of yours.

no-one can spew bullshxx rants better than you. Go, PAL!

Yes, PAL's plans for dealing with the Middle East (as paraphrased by myself, as you quoted) are pretty damn stupid, moronic, self-defeating, unrealistic, racist, and probably perverted.

Never mind the fact that PAL has been engaging in masturbatory fantasies in how the President can bypass Congress

You're a nobody. You might have been of some importance, ten years ago. Now, you're forgotten. Old news. History. Discarded refuse.

Youarmissed even duckie and he gets his undies in a bundie and cries mods... I'm telling ya he is sick,sick sick...

Eastham You are a fraud.

the myth that is Para. His reasoning is not usually very sound

Pete73052 Could you be any stupider?

Once again, Paralegal, you've shown yourself to be an idiot who hasn't the slightest clue what he's talking about

Nice job AGAIN - Windbag...

The truth, Mr. Paralegal at Law... is that he's now an Internet STAR and you are, and always will be an Internet Douchbag.

Just the facts, Douchbag, just the facts.
You're a Dumbass painting with a broad brush...
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Dec 18, 2007 @ 8:06 AM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
kjac


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You seem to have left out my favorites. The personal attacks from iam, you, DR, and yes, myself.
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Dec 18, 2007 @ 8:40 AM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
SweetNapaGuy


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kjac, it's only personal attacks if the Democrats are doing it. If the Republicans do it, it's patriotic posturing.
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Dec 18, 2007 @ 9:08 AM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
Blondino


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This is the actual conversation with Steve one of my fav posters and so as PAL took one little section out of this conversation I would say that is misleading and I am asking Mods to delete the section in OP ..

Steve
Strange as it sounds, I think I actually miss Mary-my smartass skills are gettin' as soft as my midsection...
Me
Steve ....
when she called you Fatso then you signed yourself Fatso .. made me laugh
you telling us Steve you got off on that ???? want me to call you names then

Steve
Well, I wouldn't say I "got off" on it-it was just fun pushing her buttons in that way; she was a worthy adversary.
And Blondino-yeah, call me names; hurt me, mock me, make me write bad checks, baby!!

Me By Invitation
lmfao ... write me bad checks .. any day steve .... Fatso



By only posting the last part to make me look bad I would say is not being civil

Quotes By PAL to KJ

Wanks are wanks. Thats terminal and there is no salvation in this world or the next for a run of the mill garden variety Wank.

Well, fellow Ghostbusters, "Who you gonna call"

So far, the only material comments were posted by UAB and Nightowl. SweetNapaGuy and Lefthandedluckie are both verbiose

Pal To Eastham before Mods locked thread
is all your sophistry really a sham and are you really a simpleton drooler who has a skull full of mush and cant make up her mind?

To Pete ( its a cracker )
I guess the difference between us, Pete, is that I am well grounded in what I know whereas you are obviously emotionally involved or have some sort of an unseen inside interest in trying to shield, as if he did nothing wrong, a loudmouth who asked a United States Senator about his blow job history in a public forum?
"



[Edited on 12/18/2007 10:11 AM]
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Dec 18, 2007 @ 10:52 AM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
steveemac


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This is the actual conversation with Steve one of my fav posters

Thanks Blondino-the feelings entirely mutual!

And Para-as far as "personal attacks," remember: it is the MODS that are demanding that people be civil-not me! I don't give a crap what anybody calls me here - 1) I've been called worse, by worse; and 2) My kids still love and respect me, so the rest of the world can lick my left marble. Your above example was directed at someone that isn't you; it was directed at someone that -among other things- has equated the fact that Democrats are more environmentally concious that they are necessarily in favor of some forms of rape. Does Diamond Rain need you to be his knight in shining armor now?
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Dec 18, 2007 @ 11:06 AM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
Paralegal_at_Law


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Its not that a particular poster needs another poster to defend them against personal attacks; its that according to the Rules of this "House" all personal attacks are prohibited, whether the attacks are deemed to be "consensual" or not, (FYI: Blondino vs. Fatso), whether the MODS take notice or not, whether it originates from the political left or the political right, if its name calling or a personal attack, its a MatchDoctor Forums prohibited activity.




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Dec 18, 2007 @ 11:16 AM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
eastham


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And you are not the MOD.
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Dec 18, 2007 @ 11:25 AM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
Paralegal_at_Law


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And you are not the MOD.

Never said I was. However, I do recognize personal attacks when made against either myself or when posted against others. Even you appear to not have "clean hands" when it comes to violations.

I have apologised for my former behaviors that crossed the line but I see others continuing to call names and make these personal attacks and am attempting to raise the consciousness of the problem to everyone accordingly.

MatchDoctor Forum personal attacks have become a "current event" in their own right.
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Dec 18, 2007 @ 11:27 AM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
eastham


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Yes, thank you for elucidating everyone's faults, but your own.
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Dec 18, 2007 @ 11:30 AM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
Paralegal_at_Law


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thank you for elucidating everyone's faults, but your own.

What part of my public apology did you not understand?

Before the ForumMod posted Front and Center I was personally sharp with an antagonist on occasion. I regret having done that.

I have apologised for my former behaviors that crossed the line but I see others continuing to call names and make these personal attacks and am attempting to raise the consciousness of the problem to everyone accordingly.

MatchDoctor Forum personal attacks have become a "current event" in their own right.

Per KJAC:

You seem to have left out my favorites. The personal attacks from iam, you, DR, and yes, myself.

I was hoping that others would find them and post them as quotes on this thread to enhance MD Poster's awareness at how prevalent this practice really is. If you can find more "attack" quotes then by all means please copy and paste them to this thread so that the violators, such as even I was, can come forward, make an apology, and then "Go and sin no more."

Per ForumMod

discussing, defending/attacking and debating a topic in an adult manner is acceptable.

attacking a person is not.

posts will be locked if there's no way to remove the offenses without destroying the rest of the content.

the way to avoid locked, pruned or deleted threads is to focus on the subject not the poster.

[Edited on 12/18/2007 11:46 AM]
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Dec 18, 2007 @ 2:03 PM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
steveemac


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all personal attacks are prohibited, whether the attacks are deemed to be "consensual" or not,
If the comment/gesture is welcomed, how can it be deemed an attack?

From Wiktionary:
Noun

Singular
attack


Plural
attacks

attack (plural attacks)

1. An attempt to cause damage or injury to, or to somehow detract from the worth or credibility of, a person, position, idea, object, or thing, by physical, verbal, emotional, or other assault.
Blondino's words toward me, per this definition, cannot be deemed an "attack," because her actions 1) are NOT intended to harm me; 2) probably don't affect my credibility; the members of this site that hold me in higher esteem won't be swayed by what anyone else says, and those that hold me in lower esteem already feel that way to begin with. 3) I welcome her "banter," therefore I am not harmed.
As far as anyone attacking me, if the mods want to kick me off the site, suspend my using privileges, etc. it is their right to do so-but for the record: I have NEVER complained to the powers-that-be about anyones lack of civility towards me or anyone else...if the mods want to enforce a "civil" discussion, no problem-I can hold my own intellectually without getting personal; many of my posts prove that. However, I can -and will- crawl into the gutter from time to time, if I feel it is needed to expose bullies, eurosnobs, soccersnobs, liars, poseurs, and, most importantly, hypocrites. (NOTE: Para, I may have a lot of disagreements with what you say, and the way you say it, but I can honestly say that I do not find you to be hypocritical.) Why? Because I can: in real-life conversations, the type of people I'm talking about would likely resort to shouting, name calling or other forms of verbal bullying and manipulation to avoid being exposed for what they are; for in this particualr medium -the open forum- the above adversary does not have the option of shouting me down; I get to present my ENTIRE statement/rebuttal for everyone to see! And while the above opponent may not (likely not) read my posts, it is certain that others are, exposing that other person for what they are...engaging with ME, in here, is -for the above mentioned type of persons- like showing up to a gunfight with a water balloon.
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Dec 18, 2007 @ 2:42 PM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
lefthandedluckie


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para...posted this..."Youaremissed: lefty if you weren't so pathetically dense and mentally deranged you'd be funny...What do you not understand about the independent voter status Come on you big mouth fool, tell me the definition of an independent voter... Oh I forgot you avoid truth IMHO you need mental help, you are insane and should be gagged and locked up..."...!!!


I must admit I had not seen that one!!

I generally sign off when I run across one that really "steams" me! That night I did not and I did say that! But, mostly I will leave and let the steam subside before I respond! This is so I can think with a clearer head!

Sometimes things will be said within the heat of the moment! My personal thing is no name calling! Once you remove the name calling it makes the poster be innovative! Thus, making for a more informational typed confrontation! Wherein facts supersede ignorance!
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Dec 18, 2007 @ 2:46 PM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
LipGlossQueen9


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Unfortunately ( ), it's been a long time since someone's attacked me. I think it has something to do with the fact that I can attack much harder, due to mental instability, and my ability to use a string of "bad language".

However, I agree that the attacks have to stop...no matter who I personally deem to be "right" or "wrong". All it does is make the attackers (and there are a lot of you) look terrible in the long run. Dear Lord, it's only a different opinion. It doesn't make the other user insane....it doesn't make them a bad person. Look at me and Iam. We respect each other a lot, yet disagree on A LOT of things. Why can't you all find it in your hearts to do that, and yes, I am talking about both sides!

Why in the world do you think I stay out of here anyway? You know that politics is practically the blood that flows through my veins, yet I can't even get up the courage to post here because I don't want to deal with it, and a lot of you I consider to be friends, including Iam, DiamondRain, and Kjac. I don't want to lose you because quite frankly I don't agree with some of you.

[Edited on 12/18/2007 2:52 PM]

[Edited on 12/18/2007 3:00 PM]
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Dec 18, 2007 @ 2:52 PM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
Blondino


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Unfortunately ( ), it's been a long time since someone's attacked me. I think it has something to do with the fact that I can attack much harder, due to mental instability, and my ability to use a string of "bad language".

That was funny LGQ Bless you
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Dec 18, 2007 @ 2:54 PM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
LipGlossQueen9


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Oh, I'll most likely be here till 7 eastern time (that's when Chris Matthews comes on and does his POWER RANKINGS! )
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Dec 18, 2007 @ 3:02 PM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
DiamondRain


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kjac

You have accused me of lodging personal attacks.

I challenge you to quote one please, or apologize for your false accusation.
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Dec 18, 2007 @ 3:09 PM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
Blondino


Posts: 4,264
Its not that a particular poster needs another poster to defend them against personal attacks; its that according to the Rules of this "House" all personal attacks are prohibited, whether the attacks are deemed to be "consensual" or not, (FYI: Blondino vs. Fatso), whether the MODS take notice or not, whether it originates from the political left or the political right, if its name calling or a personal attack, its a MatchDoctor Forums prohibited activity.

1. To set upon with violent force. nope
2. To criticize strongly or in a hostile manner. nope
3. To start work on with purpose and vigor: attack a problem. nope
4. To begin to affect harmfully: a disease that attacks the central nervous system.
v.intr. nope
To make an attack; launch an assault: The enemy attacked during the night.
nope
1. The act or an instance of attacking; an assault. nope
2. An expression of strong criticism; hostile comment: vicious attacks in all the newspapers. nope
3. Sports nope
a. An offensive action in a sport or game. nope
b. The players executing such an action. nope
4.
a. The initial movement in a task or undertaking: made an optimistic attack on the pile of paperwork. nope
b. A method or procedure: Our attack on this project will have two phases. nope
5. An episode or onset of a disease, especially an occurrence of a chronic disease: an asthma attack. nope
6. The experience or beginning of a feeling, need, or desire: an attack of hunger; an attack of melancholy. nope
7.
a. Music The beginning or manner of beginning a piece, passage, or tone. nope
b. Decisiveness and clarity in artistic expression: a careful performance, but one lacking the rigorous attack the work demands. nope
OK so ... as we all know the Fatsogate was not an attack ....more like pillow talk
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Dec 18, 2007 @ 3:38 PM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
kjac


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Ok DR, since you asked.

You took the side of the enemy and propagandized against your own country in a time of war hoping that our soldiers would die and we would lose.

I have to admit. Your logic is so indecipherable that you leave me speechless. And you gotta go some to accomplish that!

My hat is off to you my nebulous friend.

OMG!

I actually agree with (some parts) of one of lefty's posts!

Even more frighteningly I actually understand some parts of one of lefty's posts!

.....Running off to the doctor ... make that a psychiatrist!

Who are you trying to appeal to? Morons?

Feel free... We don't want anyone who does not understand that the Democrats are the party of record standing for big government, high taxes and big government spending. Anyone who doesn't know that isn't smart enough to be a Republican anyway. You can have them.

I know you said quote one, but I couldn't decide, so I just posted a small number of them.
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Dec 18, 2007 @ 3:44 PM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
alivenwell351


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Keep it civil???...That's the pot calling the kettle black if I've ever seen it!!!

You reap what you sow....The main trouble in here is too many folks confuse opinions with facts..

To paraphrase one of the great philosophers of our time, Cool Hand Luke.........

Just cause you think you write all purty and don't name no names don't make it right boss.....

..

[Edited on 12/18/2007 3:49 PM]
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Dec 18, 2007 @ 3:47 PM Lets keep it civil without resorting to the personal attacks    
LipGlossQueen9


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Looks like my input goes virtually ignored, once again. Sometimes I don't know why I even bother to give it. I'm not asking for pity. On the contrary, just making an observation.

I guess you just can't change people who are intent upon not liking one another or seeing the good qualities in one another....that they all definitely do possess, and the sad thing is I know they do, for a fact.
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