| Dec 26, 2007 @ 11:06 PM |
do you think the police were wrong for killing tattiana the siberian tiger
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icon23
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this contraversy about this tiger attack has been on tv alot, i hate the police shot this animal. i am a animal lover and do not like to see bad things happen to them. they could of trankulized her i belive she was being picked on and she just snapped
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| Dec 26, 2007 @ 11:24 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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No matter what the circumstances, Siberian Tigers should never be killed by mankind when tranquilized and subdued will be enough to regain control of the tiger.
As an endangered species, it should be bred and kept in the gene pool.
I know it has attacked a human before but that is immaterial. The survival of the tiger species is at stake.
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| Dec 26, 2007 @ 11:28 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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I hope they determine how the tiger got loose, to prevent tragedies like this in the future.
From the reports we're seeing in the news, the tiger was sitting near its second victim. While officers watched, the tiger resumed attacking the man, already mauled. When the officers approached, the tiger charged them.
I don't think tranquilizers are immediate-action remedies. The drug needs to circulate through the body and reach the brain (I think... someone who knows more about this should chime in with more relevant knowledge). In that time, the tiger could have killed the second and third victim, both lying within easy reach.
If there had been animal abuse, I hope it is exposed. If the tiger was released from its cage, I hope the perpetrator is convicted. This is a tragedy, doubly so given the rarity of the species. It must not be allowed to happen again.
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| Dec 26, 2007 @ 11:32 PM |
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burnslikethesun
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its a risk. I understand why they did it. One look at a fellow human being torn to shit and mawed isnt pretty. The risk wouldnt be worth it. Going home, or not, Im pulling the trigger to up the odds. Tranqs and what nots are locked up and secure. When the pistol is at the hip. four got chewed upped in less then 10 mins.
I love animals, even the human animal.
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| Dec 26, 2007 @ 11:44 PM |
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Jankia
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The police werent wrong in eliminating a threat,the wrong was done when that threat was caged up so humans could walk by and view.Leave them in the wild where they belong.
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| Dec 26, 2007 @ 11:50 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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Unfortunately, humans have moved into the wild spaces where these animals live. The only pragmatic/realistic hope of saving the creatures may lie in keeping a breeding population in zoos and wildlife parks, until such time as humanity matures.
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| Dec 26, 2007 @ 11:51 PM |
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iam7545
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It is more than unbelievable that the zoo did not have provisions and a plan for a situation like this. Having to rely on Police to decide what to do in a case like this reveals a total lack of responsibility by the zoo. There should me an armed guard equipped with a fast acting tranquilizer and/or bullets for situations like this or what happened to the handler there last year.
The Zoo officials should be fired immediately. They take great responsibility for human life and the life of an endangered species when they accept responsibility for such an animal -
THEY BLEW IT!
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| Dec 26, 2007 @ 11:52 PM |
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SunBabe
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PAL said:
No matter what the circumstances, Siberian Tigers should never be killed by mankind when tranquilized and subdued will be enough to regain control of the tiger.
As an endangered species, it should be bred and kept in the gene pool.
I know it has attacked a human before but that is immaterial. The survival of the tiger species is at stake.
Oh yeh, like there was time for the cops to go find a vet, a tranquilizer gun, and the proper dosage to administer to the tiger.  Meanwhile he should be allowed to chew off a few more heads and spread blood and guts all over the zoo grounds just because the tiger's "endangered" and human beings aren't? 
It was an emergency situation. Plain and simple. It WAS kept in the gene pool for breeding. THAT'S why it was allowed to remain after the other mauling incident. No one else was in danger after that attack. THIS time there were a lot of other PEOPLE at risk, including the poor guy who was being chewed up yet still alive AND the police who were trying to protect everybody...including themselves.
Maybe next time you and icon will volunteer to be dinner and let the poor tiger live. 
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| Dec 26, 2007 @ 11:56 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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Oh yeh, like there was time for the cops to go find a vet, a tranquilizer gun, and the proper dosage to administer to the tiger.
At a zoo, such items should be readily available. I am surprised that the law does not require zoo security to be so armed and available at all times.
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| Dec 26, 2007 @ 11:58 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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Once they yelled at that cat it turned to them. I would have done the same thing. Shame it had to die but it had killed already! Those people had no clue what that cat was going to do!
The speed, the quickness and agility of these big animals is just unbelievable. I have seen Cougars or Mountain Lions, if you prefer, in the wild! They are truly magnificient.
They did what they had to do!
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| Dec 26, 2007 @ 11:58 PM |
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ISSUESWOPTIONS
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Well, if you promote FEAR in little kids, those little kids grow up to be adults with the same promoted fears; like Siberian Tigers are dangerous animals and should be killed. If you are looking for someone to blame, good luck because society tell you that it is ok to kill such an animal if it is away from a "normal" habitat/expected enclosure.
There is no wrong, just differences in measures that could have been taken when dealing with the situation. 
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| Dec 27, 2007 @ 12:12 AM |
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iam7545
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At a zoo, such items should be readily available. I am surprised that the law does not require zoo security to be so armed and available at all times.
AMEN - I will bet the regular scum bag lawyers are already lined up -
Vegas has odds on who will get the case -
Geragos is even money -
Scum Bag Tacopina is 3-1
Gloria Allrad - is 5 - 1
There is even talk that John ($400 Haircut) Edwards may give up his run for Pres and take the case - he is 20-1
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| Dec 27, 2007 @ 1:00 AM |
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burnslikethesun
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At a zoo, such items should be readily available they are there. they ARE locked up. Drug addicts. Enough said?
Te pistols at the hip.
Parts of people missing. You follow a path of screams and blood and gore.. Human Gore. You are gona grab your pistol which is at your hip, BEFORE, you turn arround to go back for the tranqs, You know that a 300 lb cat is something not to mess arround with. You also are not gona wait 3 more mins while the guy with the key to the tranq to catch up. Now are ya?
Poor kitty. Poor families. Sad all arround.
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| Dec 27, 2007 @ 1:36 AM |
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Nightowl001
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Like Sunbabe pointed out, there was a human life in immediate danger. The first responders on the scene did not have tranquilizer equipment to the ready, and the threat had to be stopped. While I'm sorry we have lost another Siberian tiger, the police were entirely justified in their actions. The entire affair is a tragedy on several levels, and perhaps criminal in addition. I hope they do a thorough and proper investigation into how the animal came to be at large.
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| Dec 27, 2007 @ 2:00 AM |
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Angel54214
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Para...and the whole incident is now considered a crime investigation. Also this is what happened when they killed the tiger:
Police shot and killed the tiger after it turned toward them as they attempted to divert its attention from one of the injured victims on the ground.
Tigers are "wild" animals, they belong in the wild. Tigers as most of the wild cat family, are sensitive to smell and hearing as well as sight. They will attack if they are ill and that includes a painful toothache! lol.
Tigers are hunters and are a prey animal.
But this one got out or was let out intentionally or by unintentional carelessness. The walls are 20 foot high!
In India conservatories, the attendees wear masks on the opposite side of their faces; for some reason this prevents human attacks.
I do agree, the zoos should be prepared in this type of situation, for situations like this, puts the public at risk for their lives.
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| Dec 27, 2007 @ 2:15 AM |
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iam7545
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I do agree, the zoos should be prepared in this type of situation, for situations like this, puts the public at risk for their lives.
ANGEL - Isn't it strange that they had to wait for the Police? That is incredible! In 10 minutes an animal like that could kill a ton of people - as could many other zoo creatures!
I bet $500 on Geragos - and took the over bet - that they settle for more than $20 million!
ONLY IN AMERICA!
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| Dec 27, 2007 @ 2:27 AM |
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Say_Yes
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The police did the right thing, in shooting the tiger. At that point, it was a matter of kill or be killed, not just for them, but for the public at large.
As for the tiger being in a zoo, part of the reason for his being there, is an attempt by the western world to preserve the species, who were in danger of being hunted into extinction. There are approximately 600 siberian tigers in captivity today, as opposed to the 350 to 400 that are thought to remain in the wild. In 1991 alone, it is estimate that 1/3 of all the siberian tigers that lived in the wild were killed.
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Don't blame the cops who killed the tiger to save the lives of who knows how many people, and don't blame the west, for keeping them in captivity, in an attempt to preserve the species. The zoo may have been negligent or some idiot, may have wanted to "Free Willy" and set the tiger free. The manner in which the tiger gained its freedom will be discovered and once that is known, then blame can be placed where it belongs.
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| Dec 27, 2007 @ 2:59 AM |
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icon23
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well, for those who say the police were right for shooting this cat. well would it be right for me to shooot the police back in 1993 for the rodney king beating when several officers were hitting and kicking him. would it be right for me to shoot them
what about when malice green was beaten and killed by the police would i be right for killing them just as you all say they were right for killing this animal.
why is it when animals kill people that some of you agree that the cops were in the right to kill an animal. but what about when cops attack people what about when people kill other people do they deserve to be killed.
i am an animal lover. i strongly belive in the bible what god says about murder. and if i was in this situation i could not by all means kill this tiger. i would of tranqulized it. instead of killing it
this tiger had a long life ahead of her. she was only four years old. and she did not deserve this at all
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| Dec 27, 2007 @ 3:35 AM |
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KAOS2007
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I hate to see this beautiful animal caged up on display in the 1st place, to me that is the real tragedy because but for that fact, she would be alive and this incident would not have happened. What happened is indeed a tragedy, but I don't pretend to know what it was like there because I wasn't there. [from the police stand point]
All I can say is, being locked up and "gawked" at day after day might make me a little pissed as well. 
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| Dec 27, 2007 @ 3:47 AM |
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Nightowl001
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why is it when animals kill people that some of you agree that the cops were in the right to kill an animal. but what about when cops attack people what about when people kill other people do they deserve to be killed.
Icon, if the police were in a situation where a suspect was pointed out to them by multiple witnesses as someone who had just killed and was standing over a wounded person appearing to be ready to deliver a killing blow to a second victim, and they called for him to stand down and he instead turned in their direction with apparent intent to use deadly force, they would be justified in shooting him. In the same way, their actions were justified in this situation. There is no double standard at work here.
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