| Jan 5 @ 8:38 PM |
Is the US Guilty of Being a Terrorist Nation?
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Novalite
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If you believe so, under which definition of terrorism do you make that assertion with? 
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| Jan 5 @ 8:41 PM |
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Gallows_Humor
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... me..nope..  ..
... but my perception of reality is skewed to one side...
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| Jan 6 @ 1:21 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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Is the US Guilty of Being a Terrorist Nation?
Only in the viewpoint of the true terrorists and to those who give them aid and comfort who are the like-minded fellow travelers of the Anti-American road.
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| Jan 6 @ 1:29 AM |
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Novalite
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Tonight, there seems to be none of those on this board. The US has, as you know supported terrorist groups and, continues to do so. However, that does not mean that they are a 'terrorist nation.'
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| Jan 6 @ 6:25 AM |
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kjac
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The US has, as you know supported terrorist groups and, continues to do so. However, that does not mean that they are a 'terrorist nation.'
Using that logic, Iran is not a terrorist nation.
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| Jan 6 @ 6:54 AM |
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Novalite
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kjac Using that logic, Iran is not a terrorist nation.
Correct. Iran has never been a terrorist nation rather, it was always, and, continues to be, the world's leading sponsor of terrorism.
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| Jan 6 @ 7:58 AM |
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Mission_Impossible139
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If you train terrorists ( School of the Americas)
If you invade countries and murder and kill for your own political agenda (Nicaragua, Iraq, Panama..etc), if you harbor a known terrorist who bombed a jet (Carilles) and so on, I'd consider the USA a terrorist nation.
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| Jan 6 @ 4:26 PM |
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Novalite
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mi If you train terrorists ( School of the Americas)
If you invade countries and murder and kill for your own political agenda (Nicaragua, Iraq, Panama..etc), if you harbor a known terrorist who bombed a jet (Carilles) and so on, I'd consider the USA a terrorist nation.
That is your own definition. I was hoping for something more widely accepted. In any case, under your definition, every country that has taken part in training their own military and special forces and, been part of an operation in another country is a terrorist nation.
That would mean, China, Russia, Iraq, France, Poland, Netherlands, Britain, Syria, Egypt and pretty much every country on earth.
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| Jan 6 @ 4:33 PM |
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Nightowl001
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Nova:
If you believe so, under which definition of terrorism do you make that assertion
Nova:
That is your own definition. I was hoping for something more widely accepted. (emphasis mine)
You can't even accept your own conditions for responses. Which is why none of the more reasonable debaters have risen to the bait of the question; why answer just to be bashed for our answers? You're not interested in what our beliefs are, only on whether or not you can call us wrong.
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| Jan 6 @ 5:01 PM |
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Bj864
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]Which is why none of the more reasonable debaters have risen to the bait of the question; why answer just to be bashed for our answers? You're not interested in what our beliefs are, only on whether or not you can call us wrong.
That is exactly why I did not get involved.
It is a legitimate question, but there can be no true debate (about any subject), with people who only want to argue to try to prove themselves right. They always seem to want to do it at someone elses expense. It becomes sidetracted into a shouting match very quickly.
I have found myself staying out of a lot of the threads because of this. I just don't want to be involved with all the insults and negativity anymore.
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| Jan 6 @ 5:15 PM |
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Novalite
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nightowl You can't even accept your own conditions for responses. Which is why none of the more reasonable debaters have risen to the bait of the question; why answer just to be bashed for our answers? You're not interested in what our beliefs are, only on whether or not you can call us wrong.
I did accept his definition though. And, commented on it citing other countries that would fall under his definition.
So, other than just showing up to troll, why did you post?
bjThat is exactly why I did not get involved.
You did though. Why the hell did you show up to post nothing?
bjI have found myself staying out of a lot of the threads because of this. I just don't want to be involved with all the insults and negativity anymore.
Same as above, why the hell did you show up to post nothing?
If either of you cannot stick to the thread then please, troll somewhere else.
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| Jan 6 @ 5:23 PM |
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Nightowl001
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If either of you cannot stick to the thread then please, troll somewhere else.
When I get done laughing at the irony of THAT, you can report me to the mods.
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| Jan 6 @ 5:45 PM |
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Novalite
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nightowl When I get done laughing at the irony of THAT, you can report me to the mods.
I wasn't surprised that you would be the first clown to show up. Not once have you ever provided a genuine point on any thread that I have been on rather, only show up to disrupt with your imagined intellectual superiority. This thread here, was actually a discussion and, I did take mi's definition and legitimized it then replied to it in kind,
You and bj on the other hand, showed up to simply troll.
Report you to the mods? You and bj are trolls. Everybody knows that so there's not much to report.
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| Jan 6 @ 5:59 PM |
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uab_5
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Quite a few Americans are guilty of sending money to the IRA, so yes the U.S. is guilty of being a terrorist nation 
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| Jan 6 @ 6:08 PM |
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Novalite
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Uab Quite a few Americans are guilty of sending money to the IRA, so yes the U.S. is guilty of being a terrorist nation
What's your criteria and or definition for terrorism and being a terrorist though?
And wondering, if one person supports terrorism, does that make an entire nation guilty or, what is the margin from not being to being one?
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| Jan 6 @ 7:15 PM |
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uab_5
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When the government of a nation allows aid and comfort to be openly given to a known terrorist group such as the IRA.
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| Jan 6 @ 7:16 PM |
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Mission_Impossible139
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That is your own definition. I was hoping for something more widely accepted. In any case, under your definition, every country that has taken part in training their own military and special forces and, been part of an operation in another country is a terrorist nation
The American trained terrorists at "The School of the Americas" has nothing to do with what is considered "normal" military activity. You refuse to see the truth. America is also keeping a known terrorist away from being prosecuted....He bombed a damn jet full of people man! That's what the whole world considers being a terrorist nation. You need to check out Carriles...he worked for the CIA and is a US sponsored TERRORIST. No matter what, we all know, even with proof, you won't accept the truth. You aren't BIG ENOUGH in mind to accept the facts.
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| Jan 6 @ 7:31 PM |
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eastham
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The United States Country Reports on Terrorism 2006, a document developed by the US Department of State, defines a state sponsor of terrorism as a state that "repeatedly provide[s] support for acts of international terrorism."
If we hold ourselves to our own definition, then yes, we are a state sponsor of terrorism.
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| Jan 9 @ 4:23 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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If we hold ourselves to our own definition, then yes, we are a state sponsor of terrorism.
And what "acts of terrorism" do you allege that USA is guilty of?
Proof please.
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| Jan 9 @ 4:43 PM |
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eastham
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Put on your bifocals, Para. The definition from State does not require that we actually commit the acts, but that we provide support for surrogates.
In previous posts, the examples given were support for terrorist groups in Central and South America -- death squads and the like. Some would make an argument that the US turned a blind eye to front groups that raised money for the IRA. More recently, we gave support to Jundullah, a Pakistani-based terrorist group that launched attacks inside Iran, and Mujaheddin-e Khalq, a Iran-based terrorist group dedicated to the overthrow of the current Iranian government.
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