| Jan 11 @ 9:24 AM |
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jimbo242
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Sorry... I'm in Bush overload too but the media keeps reminding me that "His Goofyness" is still in office.
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Yes Virginia....only seven years into his presidency and our not-ready-for- prime-time president is working on his legacy.
Who knows? With Duh'bya's inate ability to ferk-up everything he touches, things might work in reverse. That situation couldn't get much worse, so for the first time President Schmuck has encountered something he can't ferk-up even more.
If it ain't broke, let the Dweeb Administration fix it!
GWB's real legacy: Cheerleader a pom-pom short, oilman with no oil, fighter pilot with no fight or plane, cowboy with no horse, rancher with no cow and man with no clue.
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| Jan 11 @ 9:37 PM |
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uab_5
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Jim,
What did Bush try to do to rectify the situation?
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| Jan 11 @ 9:49 PM |
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MusicMonster
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Good question.. I'd like to know too.. 
Did he solve the problem or just do a photo-op? I wish he'd stay home in Crawford and just wait out his term.. Maybe he could take guitar lessons, mend some fences, or learn about his computer with Video Professor? I'm always concerned that he is going to screw something up when he goes abroad to represent us.
Why is it that the long-long list of Bush faux pas' just gets longer and longer and we tend to forget and forgive everything, heinous as it is, after a little time? We didn't do that with Nixon, or anyone else..
I'm actually stunned he wasn't gone a LONG time ago! Any other president would have been. What is the key to his amazing staying power in spite of everything?
Do people really still want to go have a beer with him?? And if so, why? Shouldn't we be a little more selective with our drinking buddies?
-MM 
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| Jan 11 @ 9:56 PM |
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Bj864
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Maybe he didn't go before because they had to hire 10,000 security guards for him. They had to close down a big portion of the city, so it was major complications. Also, he had to be diverted because of a missile threat.
Don't forget that he is very much hated in a lot of the world and we have to pay for most of this security.
He lives in a big bubble that has probably cost us more in security than any other president.
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| Jan 12 @ 5:34 AM |
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Novalite
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Jimbo Yes Virginia....only seven years into his presidency and our not-ready-for- prime-time president is working on his legacy.
I thought The Road Map For Peace was announced by Bush in 2002 and, has continued, albeit with problems since then. So, it would seem he began working on his legacy six years ago.
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| Jan 12 @ 6:39 AM |
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eastham
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Announce, smannouce.
That the President of the United States did not visit his biggest ally in the region in the first seven years is troubling.
The "Road Map" was unveiled in 2002 and was supposed to work to its fruition, a signed agreement, by 2005. Guess what, no one was named to spearhead this for the Administration until this Thursday, when Bush named Gen. William Fraser, a deputy at the Joint Chiefs.
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| Jan 12 @ 6:52 AM |
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Novalite
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East, between civil war in Palestine, the death of an Israeli PM as well as a Palestinian leader, war with Hezbollah and Hamas and the election of a terrorist organization in Palestine, I think that things have gone fairly well.
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| Jan 12 @ 7:38 AM |
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eastham
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That point can be argued. Let's take the bombing of Lebanon for an example. Not defending the kidnapping of an Israeli soldier, but most of the Middle East experts were a bit perplexed that the US failed to play its traditional "good cop" role and to end the bombing sooner. The Israelis were waiting for it as a way to end the bombing and save face.
You trotted out the 2002 announcement and then presented it as if it were a commitment on the part of this Administration to broker a settlement. It was a PR ploy.
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| Jan 12 @ 2:39 PM |
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Gallows_Humor
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That the President of the United States did not visit his biggest ally in the region in the first seven years is troubling.
not to me... as I would have been surprised if he was even vocal about it, let alone visit.... if it appeared that it was Israel and the USA against sadam... all hell would have broken loose in the area.....
...... Bush's goal was Iraqi...
as it is... just before our election... I consider this as Him waving a red flag in the face of the people of the middle east...  nothing like a  little war to get the people to vote for a republican...
Israel's goal today is..... 
do they even know??
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| Jan 12 @ 6:48 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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I consider this as Him waving a red flag in the face of the people of the middle east... nothing like a little war to get the people to vote for a republican...
That recipe has been brewing for awhile. Look for an "October Surprise" that will bring the American Flag back to each and every household in America within thirty days of the November, 2008 general elections, where the voters will choose between a warrior who will defend them and a Pee Wee Hermanized capitulator Copperhead Democrat who will be viewed as being at home and abroad as being emasculated in the national defense arena.
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| Jan 12 @ 6:52 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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So you view the use of pre-emptive warfare as a valid policy of domestic politics?
Do you have any opinions that don't involve the deaths of third-world civilians?
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| Jan 12 @ 8:59 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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para...posted this.."...where the voters will choose between a warrior who will defend them and a Pee Wee Hermanized capitulator Copperhead Democrat who will be viewed as being at home and abroad as being emasculated in the national defense arena."..!!
I am just commenting on the "Pee Wee Hermanized capitulator Copperhead Democrat"!! 
That hit the funny bone!
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| Jan 12 @ 9:23 PM |
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Novalite
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Left I am just commenting on the "Pee Wee Hermanized capitulator Copperhead Democrat"!!
That hit the funny bone!
I wonder if Para even cracked a smile when he wrote that. Bet he didn't.
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| Jan 13 @ 12:07 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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So you view the use of pre-emptive warfare as a valid policy of domestic politics?
Do you have any opinions that don't involve the deaths of third-world civilians?
I support an Interstate Canal Network linking port facilities in all states to America's great rivers and great lakes and also the coastal waters of the United States, under the auspices of the proposed Federal Waterways and Ports Authority ("FWPA") that as an instrumentality of the United States, would be authorized to issue tax free quasi-municipal bonds, and would also operate all US Ports of Entry, establish new residential lakes, recreational lakes, public water supply reservoirs, agricultural irrigation water supply reservoirs, and wetlands for wildlife, create periodic intermodal LARS Ports (Land/Air/Railroad/Sea) with industrial parks with warehouses and US Foreign Trade Zones; act as a federal mortgage lender for development loans and end mortgage loans for the residential. commercial, industrial, and agricultural projects within the FWPA Benefit Districts along the trajectories of the canals, and also in the viscinity of the several residential lakes, recreational lakes, public water supply reservoirs, agricultural irrigation water supply reservoirs, and wetlands for wildlife, and the intermodal LARS Ports; and to act as a public utility for electricity, natural gas, drinking water, agricultural fresh water and salt water, sewer, and voice over IP telephone service for improvements within the FWPA Benefit Districts; to issue annual pleasure craft licenses to operate on Federal Waterways along with pleasure craft Master's Mates, and Pilot's annual permits to to operate pleasure craft on Federal Waterways; to act as a build-to-suit landlord for the public rental housing, commercial, industrial, and agricultural projects to acquire lands by eminant domain for its improvement projects, and to defray its tax free quasi-municipal bonds from its residential capital gains, public utility, landlord, and annual license issuance revenues, and thus be able to construct its canal and lake projects without necessity to utilize any tax dollars from the US Treasury.
I also favor mustering the municipal and county park rangers, county court process servers, bank guards, armored car guards, art gallery guards, museum gards, zoo guards, and school crossing guards into a county civil defense auxiliary police department, that would establish 400 new armed police officers in my county, and other similarly situated counties as well.
I favor the enactment of a National Public Safety Act of 2008 that creates in all 93 federal judicial districts, a 5-person Public Safety Authority Board of Trustees with authority to appoint a Federal District Fire Chief, Federal District Fire Marshal, and a Federal District Emergency Management Administrator, to authorize 100,000 new emergency, catastrophe, and disaster responders to protect federal properties, federal buildings, national forests, national cemeteries, arsenals and war industries facilities, nuclear power plants, and to enter into mutual aid contracts with state and local emergency response agencies.
Due to the presence of up to 20,000,000 illegal alien Mexican nationals in the USA, I now favor the annexation of Mexico so that its status will become US Territory, like Puerto Rico, and the USA would absorb Mexico's PEMEX oil monopoly into the US Dept. of Energy, with the profits from the nationalized Mexican oil indutry guaranteeing the stablity and liquidity of the social security trust fund, the issuance of new silver dollars by the US Bureau of the Mint utilizing Mexico's vast silver resources as the worlds 2nd largest producer of silver, and all Mexicans immediately obtain US citizenship, qualify for US minimum wage, Section 8 Housing, Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, Aid to Families with Dependent Children, and utilizing $8.00-$10.00 pre hour Mexican construction workers, to develop the Mexican Pacific and Gulf Coasts with FHA and VA mortgages so that new construction American style houses North of the Rio Grand that sell for over $100,000.00 would sell South of the Rio Grand for $65,000.00 creating a housing boom and also new resorts with Indian Casinos near the Cancun vacation playground.
Oh, and I don't favor "deaths of third-world civilians" other than the lawful enemies of the United States of America. However, if these parties are our lawful enemies, as defined by an Act of Congress or a UN Security Council Resolution for which the US Ambassador voted for the use of force, I do favor either their extinction, or their unconditional surrender, as is reasonable and proper.
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| Jan 13 @ 12:16 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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But you just posted that you'd like to see an October Surprise attack on the US, which would swing the country towards voting for an incompetent Republican over an incompetent Democrat.
You can't have it both ways. You are wishing for the start of yet another conflict (and given your views on the annexation of Mexico, your definition of "provocation" is very wide...), which would inevitably result in not only American casualties, but about twenty times as many foreign civilian casualties.
And save all that other crap for your other thread. Yes, we know you want to create implausible boondoggles all over the place. No need to spout that flight of fancy (including the inevitable perpetual motion machine idea: turbines which pump water upstream to come down and drive the turbines....) here as well.
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| Jan 13 @ 12:34 AM |
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Novalite
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sng turbines which pump water upstream to come down and drive the turbines
That's 'trickle up' economics.
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| Jan 13 @ 12:42 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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And it violates at least one of the Newtonian laws...
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| Jan 13 @ 12:42 AM |
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Nightowl001
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That recipe has been brewing for awhile. Look for an "October Surprise" that will bring the American Flag back to each and every household in America within thirty days of the November, 2008 general elections, where the voters will choose between a warrior who will defend them and a Pee Wee Hermanized capitulator Copperhead Democrat who will be viewed as being at home and abroad as being emasculated in the national defense arena.
Of course, if that happens it will prove the "enemy" (whoever the hell they are) are stupider than any second-year Anapolis student. Let's see... bomb the enemy just before they might elect someone who won't come after you so they will be scared into electing someone who will come after you... " Yeah....
Edited to add:
Now, I wonder exactly WHO would be more likely to be planning an "October surprise"?
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| Jan 13 @ 12:45 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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Actually, they kind of want to get invaded. The propaganda value, you see. Show the Americans as staging yet another Crusade, wanting to steal the oil and/or support the Israelis.
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| Jan 13 @ 12:47 AM |
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Nightowl001
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So, if the CIA was funding yet another black ops guerilla group by funnelling yet more illegal funds to, say, an Islamic group, enriching the "idealistic" leader into exhorting his minions to attack us, everybody would be happy, huh?
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