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First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear


Jan 11 @ 10:41 PM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
Paralegal_at_Law


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According to pollster Rasmussen, the number of Americans who identify themselves as Republican has risen to a two-year high, increasing nearly 2 percentage points in December to 34.2%.

The reason for this jump in self-identified Republicans? Greater confidence in the party to fight the war on terror whould seem to be the key. While it has not affected President Bush's approval ratings, recent international events -- including the improving situation in Iraq -- reminds voters why they prefer the Republican Party over the Democrats when it comes to national security.

The Kansas City Star newspaper, Friday January 4, 2008, at page B6

This reinforces my earlier posting that people flirt in the Primary Elections and vote to protest the status quo, but in the General Elections will cast a "survival vote" based upon who they deem to be the protective warrior as opposed to whom they perceive to be the terrorist appeasement wimp.

The unpopularity of George W. Bush does not automatically translate into a preference for Democrat leadership. In the face of GWB's unpopularity, Republican conversions are climbing. By November, the exodus from the Democratic camp will be legion in number with everyone scrambling to find standing room only aboard the Republican victory ship of state.

The antiwar Copperhead Democrats have voluntarily hung the carcass of the albatross of capitulation around their necks and with the surge working in Iraq, the stink of that dead bird is going to become overwhelming by election day in November.

The results? Four more years of a Republican administration in the White House.
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Jan 11 @ 10:48 PM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
iam7545


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para - Since Billary and Barak are for all purposes inexperienced and unelectable - I have already started to take bets from my liberal friends!

Nothing I like more than to get TAX FREE money from a left hander! I won a ton in the last two elections!
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Jan 11 @ 10:49 PM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
lefthandedluckie


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Had to check you out, para!! So, I went to Rasmussen and lo and behold there it was!

partisian trends 2 year high for republicans


edited to add this....Democrats are the most trusted on domestic issues...Democrats most trusted on domestic issues

[Edited on 1/11/2008 10:59 PM]
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Jan 11 @ 11:00 PM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
Bj864


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I think there is something wrong with this poll. Everything I look at tells me that many more people are registering to vote as democrats and that more democrats are voting, so what does this poll mean? Nothing.

I wonder exactly how the questions were worded..
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Jan 11 @ 11:06 PM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
Gallows_Humor


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The number of Americans who consider themselves to be Republicans jumped nearly two percentage points in December to 34.2%. That’s the largest market share for the Republican brand in nearly two years, since ........





tell me again how this means.....

First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear

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Jan 11 @ 11:08 PM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
iam7545


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I think there is something wrong with this poll. Everything I look at tells me that many more people are registering to vote as democrats and that more democrats are voting, so what does this poll mean? Nothing.

I wonder exactly how the questions were worded.

bj - of course you do!
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Jan 11 @ 11:31 PM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
Nightowl001


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Bj, it ws pretty basic. "Do you consider yourself to be a Republican, or a Democrat?"

Notice the phrasing: A 2-Year high. It's also 4% more than identified themselves as Republicans in May 2007.

From a Pew report published last year:
Even more striking than the changes in some core political and social values is the dramatic shift in party identification that has occurred during the past five years. In 2002, the country was equally divided along partisan lines: 43% identified with the Republican Party or leaned to the GOP, while an identical proportion said they were Democrats. Today, half of the public (50%) either identifies as a Democrat or says they lean to the Democratic Party, compared with
35% who align with the GOP.

See the last paragraph on Page 5 and the chart on Page 6 here:
http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/312.pdf

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Jan 12 @ 12:08 AM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
kjac


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Compare the votes. How many people in the primaries are voting Republican to how many are voting Democrat. There's your answer as to who's going to win the election.

And it's not even close.
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Jan 12 @ 12:40 AM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
Paralegal_at_Law


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Compare the votes. How many people in the primaries are voting Republican to how many are voting Democrat. There's your answer as to who's going to win the election.

And what if thousands of guys like me vote in the Democrat primary? What does that proove?

Who is the Presidential Blue Dog Democrat that I could vote for in a Democtratic Primay? Failing to find a Blue Dog Democrat running for President, what other choices would I have?

I can always reserve the right to switch my vote in November now, couldn't I?
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Jan 12 @ 12:47 AM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
kjac


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Now you're changing from something proven to what you're hoping for Para. There's a huge difference there. People are coming out in masses like never before to vote, and they're not voting Republican.

How that indicates a Republican Presidential victory is beyond me.
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Jan 12 @ 1:07 AM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
MusicMonster


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Food for turther thought - People identifying themselves and registering as Independents (not towing any party line or promoting any party rheroric), is at an all-time high.


-MM

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Jan 12 @ 1:13 AM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
iam7545


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Hmmmmm - we have had two primaries. Fewer people have voted in both of these States combined than reside in one Burrow of NYC. The percentage of minorities in both of the States is less than 5%.

So this is a TREND!
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Jan 12 @ 1:16 AM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
kjac


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The percentage of minorities in both of the States is less than 5%.

Considering minorities generally vote democrat, that's an even worse sign for the republicans.
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Jan 12 @ 1:20 AM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
iam7545


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Jan 12 @ 9:10 AM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
eastham


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Look at the number of independents who participated in the Iowa caucuses or voted in New Hampshire. Did they turn out for the Republicans? Not hardly. There were towns that requested extra paper ballots from Concord, because of the number of independents who voted in the New Hampshire primary.

That said, registration numbers in California show increases for Democrats, even in Orange County, which was a Republican bulwark until not so long ago.

In Connecticut, the more traditional Republican areas are trending Democratic. In Fairfield County, which has historically sent liberal Republicans (yep, there used to be such a thing) to Congress, Chris Shays has had an increasingly difficult time holding onto his seat. A recent article in the local Milford, CT paper -- a New Haven suburb and traditionally Republican -- discussed a recent trend in voter re-registration. Two individuals re-registered from Independent to Republican, 9 Republicans re-registered as Independents, and 26 re-registered as Democrats.

Hispanics citizens, who at one time were actively courted by Republicans mainly around the issue of abortion, are now registering as Democrats.
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Jan 12 @ 9:52 AM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
Mission_Impossible139


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However, if you want the facts, look at the bottom line which to Republicans, is the way to look at life. The bottom line is that the Republican National Committee has FEWER dollars than the DNC. Not just by a slim margin...by MILLIONS!

To say the Republicans have a chance at winning the presidency is absolutely absurd.
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Jan 12 @ 10:14 AM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
iam7545


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surfer dude - do you have a link to support that?
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Jan 12 @ 10:16 AM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
alivenwell351


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To say the Republicans have a chance at winning the presidency is absolutely absurd.

No it isn't....

I constantly rail about how I believe there's little difference of substance between the 2 parties...but there is 1 noticeable one. The Dems are significantly better at shooting themselves in the foot than the repubs are...the Dems had the most defeatably inept incumbent since Carter on the hook in 04, and managed to decidedly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory through a lousy candidate with an ineffective campaign. I can't see what will change that any this time around. The Repubs (particularly McCain) will have NO problem distancing themselves from Bushie...A McCain/Romney ticket would be a formidable one...one I suspect would carry the day against BillaryBama, in any combination. Despite what many would like to think, more govt handouts aren't at the top of any more peoples' wish lists than they've been in the last 2 elections...

This one is DEFINITELY up in the air...
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Jan 12 @ 11:19 AM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
Nightowl001


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the Dems had the most defeatably inept incumbent since Carter on the hook in 04, and managed to decidedly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory through a lousy candidate with an ineffective campaign.

I have to respectfully disagree, Alive. Not sure about the inept, but arguably the Republicans had the most defeatable incumbent ever in Bill Clinton in 1996. Despite being a Democrat and my view of Clinton having much less to do with his personal foibles than his political positions, I was SURE they were going to toss him out of office. Against Clinton, under scrutiny and investigation, and the constant subject of scorn by the national media, I figured almost ANY Republican could win in 1996. Probably the only less-electable candidate than Dole the Republicans could have put forward at the convention would have been Strom Thurmond.
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Jan 12 @ 11:22 AM First indications of a Republican Presidential Victory Now Appear    
kjac


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Probably the only less-electable candidate than Dole the Republicans could have put forward at the convention would have been Strom Thurmond.

And don't forget Thurmond's right Klan man, Trent Lott.
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