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SweetNapaGuy
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Just passed a radio playing KSFO (right-wing talk show, interspersed with sports and UFOs, as well as the occasional computer talk) and apparently, some mock-jock named Levin (endorsed by Hannity and Limbaugh) was tearing Republicans a new one. Apparently, if you're not an ultra-conservative (i.e. selfish, narrow-minded, and bloody-minded), you don't deserve to be called a Republican.
Nothing could inspire more joy in me: seeing one (or preferably both...) of the major parties driving out their moderates. Let the extremists have their parties, I'd rather have the moderates take power without being beholden.
Sorry, only those who listened to the show in question (tonight at 9pm PST) will understand the amount of contempt the ultra-conservatives show for members of their own party.
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| Jan 16 @ 12:22 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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You had the privilege of running into radio talk show host Mark Levin, an attorney who has loose lips that sink democrat ships.
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| Jan 16 @ 12:29 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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And someone who thinks that, just because someone is only fiscally conservative, they don't deserve to be in the Republican party.
Is that level of venom often directed at the moderate majority of the GOP? I expected to hear it directed at the far-left of the Democratic party, and possibly at the moderate majority of the Democratic party, but directed at REPUBLICANS?
Isn't he aware that the ultra-far-extreme-right-wing needs Average Joe moderate Republicans in order to keep any power? The political parties are "umbrella" organizations. One Republican can be socially-conservative, but fiscally-moderate. Another can be fiscally-conservative, but socially-liberal. They don't have to agree on everything, as long as--on average--their views get some consideration from their representatives.
If you drive out all the mix-and-match crowd, the GOP will go the way of dozens of failed political parties in the past.
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| Jan 16 @ 12:43 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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Isn't he aware that the ultra-far-extreme-right-wing needs Average Joe moderate Republicans in order to keep any power?
We know that. "The Great One" is just blowing some steam, plus some party discipline sometimes is good.
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| Jan 16 @ 12:43 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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Parties which are generally no longer active within the United States:
Most of the following parties are no longer functioning. Some of them had considerable influence. In order of founding.
Federalist Party (c.1789–c.1820)
Democratic-Republican Party (1792–c.1824)
Anti-Masonic Party (1826–1838)
National Republican Party (1829–1833)
Nullifier Party (1830–1839)
Whig Party (1833–1856)
Liberty Party (1840–1848)
Law and Order Party of Rhode Island (1840s)
Free Soil Party (1848–1855)
Anti-Nebraska Party (1854)
American Republican Party (1843-1854)
American Party (“Know-Nothings”) (c.1854–1858)
Opposition Party (1854–1858)
Constitutional Union Party (1860)
National Union Party, (1864–1868)
Readjuster Party (1870-1885)
Liberal Republican Party (1872)
Greenback Party (1874–1884)
Anti-Monopoly Party (1884)
Populist Party (1892–1908)
Silver Party (1892-1902)
National Democratic Party/Gold Democrats (1896–1900)
Silver Republican Party (1896-1900)
Social Democratic Party (1900–1901)
Home Rule Party of Hawaii (created to serve the native Hawaiian agenda in the state legislature and U.S. Congress) (1900–1912)
Socialist Party of America (1901–1973)
Progressive Party 1912 (“Bull Moose Party”) (1912–1914)
National Woman's Party (1913-1930)
Non-Partisan League (Not a party in the technical sense) (1915–1956)
Farmer-Labor Party (1918–1944)
Progressive Party 1924 (1924)
Communist League of America (1928–1934)
American Workers Party (1933–1934)
Workers Party of the United States (1934–1938)
Union Party (1936)
American Labor Party (1936–1956)
America First Party (1944) (1944–1996)
States' Rights Democratic Party (“Dixiecrats”) (1948)
Progressive Party 1948 (1948–1955)
Vegetarian Party (1948–1964)
Constitution Party (United States 50s) (1952–1968?)
American Nazi Party (1959-1967)
Puerto Rican Socialist Party (1959–1993)
Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party (1964)
Communist Workers Party (1969–1985)
People's Party (1971–1976)
U.S. Labor Party (1975–1979)
Concerned Citizens Party (1975-1992) Become the Connecticut affiliate of the Constitution Party (then known as U.S. Taxpayers Party) with party founding
Citizens Party (1979–1984)
New Alliance Party (1979–1992)
Populist Party of 1980s-1990s (1984–1994)
Looking Back Party (1984–1996)
Grassroots Party (1986–2004)
Independent Party of Utah (1988–1996)
Greens/Green Party USA (1991–2005)
New Party (1992 – 1998)
Natural Law Party (1992–2004)
Mountain Party (2000-2007) Become the West Virginia affiliate of the Green Party July 16, 2007
Most of them are no longer active because they either fragmented, or they represented too narrow a platform. Our system is designed for two parties. Drive out enough of your base, and they'll either leave the extremists behind to form a new party, or they'll join the opposing party. Or the whole party will split into multiple fragments, and take a decade or two to regroup.
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| Jan 16 @ 12:49 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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The last time some "party discipline" was exercised, the ultra-extreme-far-right wing of the Republican party turned on its moderates (i.e. 1994 to 2004). It might work again. It might backfire. Either way, the moderates are getting sick of being told what to believe.
FYI, I went from a moderate Republican to a moderate (if reluctant) Democrat. And I'm not the only one. There are more Democrats than Republicans (42.6% D, 32.5% R, 24.9% Ind). I may not agree with many of the policies of the Democrats, but at least they're mostly centrist (certain party leaders excepted). The Republicans? Whew, their leadership went wacko fast...
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| Jan 16 @ 7:52 AM |
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eastham
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The Republicans are turning off many of their party stalwarts. I had friends who attended the Republican convention in VA when Jim Miller was up against Ollie North for the nod. They were aghast at the behavior of the North campaign and that's when loyalty oaths started appearing at Republican campaign events in VA. And what happened after North got the nod? John Warner and many other old war horses campaigned for Chuck Robb.
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| Jan 16 @ 12:34 PM |
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stormbringer99
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There is nothing I would more like to see in this nation than have a three party system. Then it would not be a choice of the lesser of two evils but a choice of people. Maybe no better but more options would not hurt.
There are more Democrats than Republicans (42.6% D, 32.5% R, 24.9% Ind).
These stats indicate that a very large percentage of people are not happy with being affiliated with either of the two main parties.
But back on topic it’s always interesting how many people who profess to be part of something still end up tearing it apart from the inside.
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| Jan 16 @ 1:32 PM |
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jimbo242
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Some animals will do that....eat their young!
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| Jan 16 @ 1:46 PM |
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MusicMonster
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Well, I think following the party line to the extreme, and making all your choices according to the party dictation, while very common, is very poor judgment. It's giving up your right to think for yourself. There are always some problems with how a party operates, or with a given candidate. But that doesn't necessarily mean someone should bail out. Like anything else, work within, to fix it, if possible.
Otherwise all elections would be the same. The party with higher numbers would always win. No campaign would be necessary, there would be no free choice. .
So while one may be a Republican for instance, the wiser ones are not likely to blindly accept everything their party does, all the time. Hence a degree of internal dissension is to be expected, and is healthy. That's how progressive change comes about.
-MM 
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| Jan 16 @ 1:57 PM |
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Nightowl001
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I saw Glenn Beck talking to Larry King last evening during the primary returns coverage, and he was just lambasting Shrub. "Don't talk to me about Bush. He's not a conservative!" He wasn't particularly laudatory of any of the current Repbulican candidates.
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| Jan 16 @ 6:17 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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God, I can't stand anything about freaking Mark Levin. I used to listen to him all the time when I was a senior in high school and had nothing better to do, and everything, from his opinions to his voice, makes me want to smash pumpkins.
I don't like either radical wing of either party that would like to rid their respective parties of moderates and accuses moderates of being "traitors"...they're annoying, and quite frankly, wrong. I think most people are quite moderate, so if you eliminate moderates from both parties, you're really not left with much, are you?
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| Jan 16 @ 9:43 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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The best thing about guys like Limbaugh and others is their listenership is falling! People are tired of their lies slur and the continuing attack on Democrats! After a while people do wake-up and see these pieces of filth for what they truly are....filth!
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| Jan 16 @ 9:45 PM |
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iam7545
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The best thing about guys like Limbaugh and others is their listenership is falling! People are tired of their lies slur and the continuing attack on Democrats! After a while people do wake-up and see these pieces of filth for what they truly are....filth!
do you have facts to prove that their listeners are falling?
You are confused with Air Communism
Prove this pulease!
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| Jan 16 @ 9:51 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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How about you proving I am wrong...use your "googler" there ol'googler not got one! 
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| Jan 16 @ 9:55 PM |
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iam7545
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How about you proving I am wrong...use your "googler" there ol'googler not got one!
I know you are wrong - so do you! You made a statement - put legs on it!
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| Jan 16 @ 9:59 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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I don't have to I said they were losing listenership...they are! Now, you prove me wrong or shut up!  
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| Jan 16 @ 11:21 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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You are confused with Air Communism
Leave them alone, my future wife works for them 
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| Jan 16 @ 11:24 PM |
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iam7545
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lgq - we are pals - she better get a job somewhere else! She will be unemployed soon! 
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| Jan 16 @ 11:28 PM |
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Jankia
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Or the whole party will split into multiple fragments, and take a decade or two to regroup. Not the Disco Sucks Party SweetNapaGuy,thats still bonafide. 
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