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Heaveninawildflower
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View London said:
among Muslim families in the UK – which are three-times higher than the British average – Muhammad will become the most popular name for baby boys by the time the latest figures are released later this year.
"Muslim parents like to have something that shows a link with their religion or with the prophet, "commented Muhammad Anwar, professor of ethnic relations at Warwick University.
Muhammad means "one who is praiseworthy" in Arabic.
Actually, this supports IAM's contention about muslim vs. christian births, for whatever it's worth. In the US, by far the highest birth rate is for Utah, at 21.2, with Arizona and Idaho next at 16.2 (I don't know about Idaho, but Arizona has a large mormon population).
Edited to add - I looked, and Idaho also has a higher than average number of mormons in its population.
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| Jan 21 @ 11:44 AM |
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DiamondRain
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It's a good name for Muslim babies, but don't try naming your teddy bear Mohammad!
(Unless you live in the USA, then you can name anything, anything you want  )
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| Jan 21 @ 12:14 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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I actually do have a teddy bear named Mohamed. I got him in 8th grade. None of my Muslim friends who don't live in America cared much when I told them, either.
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| Jan 21 @ 1:19 PM |
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Blondino
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There are many ERs around this country, many who are connected with religious affiliations, who will not give a rape victim the option of taking the morning after pill. They simply refuse to distribute it. How do you feel about this? Do you think that it should be required to be a medical option to patients?? Or do you think it is the hospitals right to say "no way"???
the hospital i work for is a catholic hospital. However we do prescribe the morning after pill to rape victims, with out question. This is relatively new, as many ER nurses and doctors faught tooth and nail to be able to get it. Yet, because it is a catholic affiliation, my insurance will not cover birth control?? I think it is rediculous that because your insurance is connected to a catholic medical facility that there is zero coverage. Is this a common issue??
post from general thread .. by American ....  as she said .. its wrong
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| Jan 21 @ 2:52 PM |
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Heaveninawildflower
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Yet, because it is a catholic affiliation, my insurance will not cover birth control??
I've never heard of any kind of exclusion based on the nature of the facility providing treatment - however, I suspected it had more to do with whether birth control was covered at all, and found this:
writ.news/findlaw said:
Most women do not have insurance coverage for birth control. Indeed, studies estimate that two-thirds of large group insurance plans do not provide any coverage for oral contraceptives, the most commonly used reversible method of birth control, and nearly half do not cover any prescription contraceptive drug or device. Many plans do, however, cover surgical sterilization for both men and women.
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| Jan 21 @ 10:23 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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Abortion is soon to be a medical procedure to go away like a cold! RU486 is now doing the job more privately! And about time!!
RU486 is now leading the way on getting rid of unwanted pregnancies
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| Jan 21 @ 10:36 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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It's a step in the right direction, LHL, but I still say birth control is the best option. Preferably implanted and regulated to body chemistry...
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| Jan 22 @ 12:57 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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One good thing about abortion is that the Liberals who practice it are aborting their future voters while the conservatives are birthing and raising their future voters in America.
FYI, most of us get our politics from our families.
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| Jan 22 @ 12:58 AM |
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capitalview
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Actually, abortion issue cannot be dicussed separately from homosexuality and masturbation issues , since religion outlaws all three of those activities equally and FOR THE VERY SAME REASON - i.e. for not providing human cells conditions sufficient for them to realize their potential of developing into full-size human being.
Hence, from religious point of view homosexuality and masturbation are much worse cases of "murder" - its more like genocide
The point is - why don't "pro-choice" activists try and defeat those "anti-choice" people by simply making counter-demand of outlawing masturbation ? That will get the minds of those "anti-choice" control-freaks off the other people's genitals and onto their own ones.
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| Jan 22 @ 1:06 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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One good thing about abortion is that the Liberals who practice it are aborting their future voters while the conservatives are birthing and raising their future voters in America.
FYI, most of us get our politics from our families.
So you're in favor of a Mexican Catholic neo-USA? Better start brushing up on your Spanish...
Hate to tell you this, but on average, we're getting more Hispanic immigrants than European immigrants, they're breeding faster than your inbred fellow party members, and they're closer to their Mexican heritage than the European heritage...
By twenty years from now, you and I just might be minorities...
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| Jan 22 @ 1:09 AM |
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DoorWatcher
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One good thing about abortion is that the Liberals who practice it are aborting their future voters while the conservatives are birthing and raising their future voters in America.
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| Jan 22 @ 1:15 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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DoorWatcher, meet Para. He's never met anyone who's disagreed with that he hasn't classified as a traitor to the United States. "Treason" being defined as "daring to disagree with him"...
You get used to it. In a few posts, he'll launch into a ten-paragraph monologue about how great he is, how wonderful the world would be if everyone just kowtowed to him, and maybe include one or two sentences relevant to the subject at hand... or would be, if it didn't completely ignore the lessons of history, economics, basic human dignity, or just the physical laws of nature.
Welcome to the forums, by the way! 
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| Jan 22 @ 1:24 AM |
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MusicMonster
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Para shocked us by saying:
One good thing about abortion is that the Liberals who practice it are aborting their future voters
Oh now, you could have gone all day without saying a thing like that!! And I'm not even a liberal..!! 
It's a well-known fact though, as I'm sure you know, that liberals have a lot more twins, triplets and quads in the family than conservatives do..  I don't know why that is exactly, but in any case, it equates to 2, 3 or 4 times the future voting power.
Be afraid... Be very afraid.. 
-MM
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| Jan 22 @ 1:27 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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Dear DoorWatcher,
Welcome to the Forums.
By the way, I paid SweetNapaGuy $5.00 to say nice things about me, but he forgot to mention that I am the well-reasoned SuperHawk and that when diplomacy fails, and the US Congress utilizes its war powers, I DONT CARE IF THE ENEMIES are Caucasion, Negro, Indian, Asian, Polynesian, Aboriginal, or Albino, once they are lawful enemies of the USA my policy is to press them with military might and prowess till they call for an end to hostilities via unconditional surrender.
Naturally, the Leftist "Hate America First" crowd all want to twist my words into some sort of vendetta against "brown-skinned" populations but its not me that picks Amreica's enemies, its Congress. Once Congress has spoken and war is at hand, I am merely an instrument in the hand of my country performing a public service on behalf of a grateful nation.
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| Jan 22 @ 1:27 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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Just imagine: A Mexican Catholic majority that is intolerant of non-Christian religions (which includes Mormons)...
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| Jan 22 @ 1:35 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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DoorWatcher:
Stick around for a few days. Decide for yourself.
If you're a FAR right-winger, you'll agree with Para.
If you're a moderate, you'll find yourself uncomfortable at the frequency with which Para calls for the enslavement of Third World nations and the confiscation of their resources. He'll also show you how an education in law makes him an expert on hydrology, history, politics, foreign relations, economics, biology, educational theory, and so on...
If you're a liberal, you'll receive a great deal of scorn from Para.
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| Jan 22 @ 1:37 AM |
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newlife2006
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thegoodideaman
not having a uterus,
I'm Pro "it's none of My God Damned Business"...
Now, that's the most intelligent point of view on the subject possible
Donating one's OWN body or part of it for someone else's needs is heroism , but "donating" THE OTHER PEOPLE'S bodies or parts of the other people's bodies for ANY cause is nothing but crime.
Indeed , human longing for justice makes democracy possible , and human tendency to keep justice exclusively for themselves (while denying it to the others), makes democracy necessary...
The saddest thing about tendencies is - they have NO BOUNDARIES. The next thing you know - no one would be asked his/her permission to use ANY part or organ of their body if someone decides that his "right to live" outweights your right to be the judge of how to use your own body.
Now, here's the answer to those who are bringing higher powers into equation :
If , as you say, woman's body doesn't belong to her but it's God's property - then the issue should be BETWEEN THE WOMAN AND GOD. What's YOUR business here?
WHO ARE YOU to appoint yourself as God's executive ?
I have deep respect for BOTH points of view on the subject , since both views have "right to exist" in democratic society...as long as they are actually PRACTICED by those who preach them and are not imposed on anyone else.
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| Jan 22 @ 1:52 AM |
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DoorWatcher
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^^^ I do agree with that. As soon as pro-lifers appreciate ALL life, then I'll listen to their other arguments. i.e. Death penalty, etc.
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| Jan 22 @ 1:55 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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Heck, even caring about the new-born babies would be a good start. Once the baby is born, the neo-cons do everything in their power to disadvantage as many children as possible.
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| Jan 22 @ 2:06 AM |
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capitalview
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sparechange64
a fetus is a parasite?? how sad
will you tell your 2 kids they are just parasites?
LOL ...it's just as asking a woman how come she doesn't call her husband "rapist" , since he's doing exactly the same thing rapists would do with her - i.e. have sex
The only difference here ( and ALWAYS ) is (and always would be) - human being should have RIGHT to decide who he/she AGREES to let to use his/her body /body parts/organs and who's not welcome to help themselves. Human body SHALL NOT BE PUBLIC PROPERTY for anyone to use either for sexual pleasure, for food (as fetuses do) or for organ transplants . One's person rights (including right to live) ENDS where the other person's body starts. I might be in desperate need for someone's kidney , but does in make me ENTITLED for it? Doesn't the donor's opinion matter??? If I die without his kidney, will it make the potential donor "murderer"????
So , the answer to your question is : children were INVITED AND ALLOWED TO USE the woman's body for food , it was HER decision to let them do it. Uninvited fetuses FORCED on her body are TRESPASSERS.
sparechange64
You don't want a baby, don't have sex
Now, that's the most SEXIST comment possible!....
Would you EVER demand the same from MALES??? Just imaging how "IF YOU DON'T WANT A BABY ,STOP EJACULATING!" would sound. Thust me- that's as absurd as your statement is, pal. Sexual activity is natural for any live being reached puberty, it's instinct -i.e. a thing which we cannot choose. Decision about starting family . on the other hand, is a different story altogether. It's like saying : "if one doesn't want to get food poisoning , he shouldn't eat"....
LongRanger278
They want to live of life void of responsibility and accountability at someone else's expense.
Funny how the father has no say so in the matter............... where is his choice?
I guess you hit the nail right on the head , LR , and there's hardly anything "funny" about runaway "fathers" who , as you said, indeed, "made their choice to live life void of responsibility and accountability at someone else's expense"
And here lies the solution for the whole issue , since as long as impregnator
( sorry, but I cannot use the word "father" for such kind of monsters ) is been securely kept out of the equation , there's no fair solution possible.
Demand of punishment for the victim can only appear in the mind of someone who is absolutely sure it would never happen to him It's easy to be "humane" on someone else's expense, but it takes brains to come up with real solution. If fetus is a "baby" , then it should be eligible for child support. ( And if the pregnancy was a result of gang-rape , the lucky baby should be eligible for child support from EACH AND EVERY ONE of those rapists , no DNA tests for criminals! )
If a pregnant woman is a single Mother - then she should be getting alimony from impregnator (along with government support) while bearing the child ( if a woman knew that government would secure her job while she is getting rehabilitation and healing her wounds , bearing the child and making he necessary arrangements for the baby , there wouldn't be any need for abortions whatsoever.
JMHO
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