| Jan 17 @ 6:48 PM |
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uab_5
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I'm against abortion except for rape, incest, or when the pregnancy could lead to the certain death of the mother.
Given that, I also believe greater incentives and funds should be allocated to promote adoption.
Why is it cheaper and easier for Angela Jolie to "buy" a baby from SE Asia when their are thousands of domestic babies in need of a loving mother?
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| Jan 17 @ 7:00 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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I don't want the government EVER telling me what to do with my body. EVER. It's mine. Period. Keep your god damned laws off my body. Until I turned 18, the only people who had a right to tell me what to do with it were my parents, and even they don't have a right to do that anymore. If I wish to terminate a pregnancy, or prevent a pregnancy, it's my right.
If you believe it's murder, don't do it. It's that simple. But anyone who believes that they have the right (especially a man, IMO, who never has to go through being raped or experiencing an unwanted pregnancy) to push their values on someone else is being foolish. If abortion was illegal, people would do it anyway. They did before, and they would again.
Once again, my body is mine to do what I want with.
And BTW- the fact that they try to legislate what kind of birth control we can use, or whether we can use it at all, and don't do anything about little blue pills that help old men get their dicks up which may result in more pregnancies is SICKENING.
Don't excuse my language.
I just had to add -
What's the use of implementing a law (and by default, a penalty for breaking the law) for something people will do anyway if it's illegal? That is just completely STUPID.
[Edited on 1/17/2008 7:06 PM]
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| Jan 17 @ 7:29 PM |
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uab_5
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Like cocaine or suicide?
That "it's my body and I can do what I want with it" does not hold water.
Come up with a better arguement.
Or better yet, don't screw unless you want a baby to come from your body!
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| Jan 17 @ 7:35 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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Like cocaine or suicide?
Yep. Suicide especially.
I am a completely pro-suicide individual. If I ever chose to make the decision to take my life, I would....unless I had children....and I don't plan to have any.
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| Jan 17 @ 7:51 PM |
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uab_5
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Even in my lowest moments, I'm damn glad I survived my suicide attempt. 
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| Jan 17 @ 7:54 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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I've survived a few, as well, but as I said...my body is my own, and if I ever feel like I can't use it anymore...it's my choice to end my life. I believe that's true for everyone.
I don't feel I owe my life to any god or any person...except perhaps the four members of a British band that saved it...and two of them are dead. So no one has any right to tell me what I can and can't do with myself, and abortion is part of that.
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| Jan 17 @ 8:02 PM |
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uab_5
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Personally, I avoid the whole abortion issues except in the abstract by not having sex with women.
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| Jan 17 @ 8:07 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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Personally, I believe that abstinence is b.s. when it comes to a species whose first instinct, besides fight or flight, is to breed.
But if it works for you, then that's wonderful and seriously, I applaud you. It doesn't work for everybody, though...especially when you live together...
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| Jan 17 @ 8:13 PM |
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uab_5
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That is a dilema.
No desire to do that, either. I'm still scarred from divorce.
I tell you what....
There are ump teen billion couples in the U.S. that would want a baby as beautiful as you, so why would you want to destroy her?
Give her up for adoption and allow a sterile couple to enjoy sacrificing every waking second for twenty years to your child. 
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| Jan 17 @ 8:16 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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There's not a large demand for American babies. I know a large community of couples who have adopted children because my cousin has adopted children, so I know them by default. My cousin's children are all Guatemalan, all their kids are South American, Korean, or Chinese. People just don't want to help their own.
I would NEVER want any human being that came out of me to live in a foster home, only to be abused and neglected and thrown out on the streets with little money when they were 18. I also would not want them to be a ward of the state. God knows how they'd be treated in a federal or state orphanage. I think if it were me, I'd rather be aborted than have to go through that.
Plus, uab---
I'd NEVER be that irresponsible to give ANYONE a child that could be mentally ill....and I'd never wish anyone to go through what I have and my parents have. Mental illness has run in my family for years. Chances are, a child of mine would be affected.
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| Jan 17 @ 8:36 PM |
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uab_5
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My mom had MS which sucks wind and carries a genetic trait.
You know I suffer from bipolar disorder which has a genetic trait.
Colon cancer and alcoholism, a mental illness, both run on both sides of my family.
My point: don't let flawed genes convince you to go "auto-Darwin" by abdicating yourself from the gene pool.
If I were a parenting type, which I'm not, I would love to adopt a LGQ baby.
Hell, I'd prefer a bipolar child over a "sane" child. I'd now how to raise a mentally ill child given my own difficulties.
I don't doubt you'd make an excellent mother to a mentally ill child because of your own experiences.
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| Jan 17 @ 8:42 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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I don't doubt you'd make an excellent mother to a mentally ill child because of your own experiences.
I'd be a crappy mom. I have no patience and I have no mothering instinct. Ever since I was little, I've hated children. I dunno. Plus, I want a career way too much to be able to have children.
But that's besides the point. The reality is, a mentally ill child is less likely to be adopted...and I'd never want a child of mine to be left in an orphanage or foster home.
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| Jan 17 @ 8:43 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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MusicMonster...posted this..."Agreed! I do not personally think it's appropriate to use abortion as a tool for birth control. But I don't believe things like 'other peoples' religion, or 'imposed' theoretical morals (based on whatever), should enter the picture.
A woman's body is her own. Sometimes however, an abortion should also take into account, to at least some degree, who the father may be, and his own feelings as well. He's not bearing the child, but it IS his child too, and that often needs to be considered.".....!!
I, like you, do not want abortion used as a tool for birth control! That said...it should be put into schools, all schools, the full facts about "sex education"! Starting in the 4th or 5th grade and going up! Allowing for the full facts to be presented without outside obstruction from religious groups, republicans or anyone else trying to stop this information being spread to our young!
I also believe after the "first trimester" NO abortions should take place. Unless mitigating circumstances are present! There have been some women have babies and did not know they were pregnant! 
The man having rights........yes, I believe his rights are there but, limited!
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| Jan 17 @ 10:17 PM |
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DiamondRain
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LGQ:
don't want the government EVER telling me what to do with my body. EVER. It's mine. Period. Keep your god damned laws off my body.
I don’t think anyone disagrees with this LGQ.
But what people disagree on is where your body stops and your babies body starts.
People saying “No one has the right to tell a woman what to do with ther body,” are completely ignoring that point. There is no point in saying this as if someone disagrees, because no one does.
Except for perhaps Jesus, babies don‘t just appear in a womb. You have to take action to create them. Once you take that action, you assume certain responsibilities for another life. And that life is entitled to protection and rights too.
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| Jan 17 @ 10:44 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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That is a "fetus" in a woman till it is born then it is a baby! You can run god by, jesus by and even allah if you want but those fantasies have nothing to do with a woman and her right to abort that fetus if she wants!
NO rethuglican right-wing bunghole has the right to tell any woman what to do about her body.
I hope the nitwits get the picture!
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| Jan 17 @ 11:10 PM |
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iam7545
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Starting in the 4th or 5th grade and going up! Allowing for the full facts to be presented without outside obstruction from religious groups, republicans or anyone else trying to stop this information being spread to our young!
Yeah = there is a great EYEDEAR! YOu don't think it is being taught? KNOCK KNOCK - crickets
Just say no! Works great!
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| Jan 17 @ 11:19 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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It is not being appropriately taught at all! See you been sweeping too much dog poo-poo to know what is going on in schools! They don't teach sex education to dogs or fleas! Get it, iam....got it, iam....good!! 
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| Jan 17 @ 11:26 PM |
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thegoodideaman
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Not having a Uterus,
I've adopted the "it's none of my F'n Business" Stance on the topic...
and don't give me the "what if it's your kid" argument,
because I'm sterile...
I know that the "it's none of my F'n Business Stance"
is very unpopular, most people seem to think everything is there Business...
I hope the concept comes into Vogue some day,
it's really useful, and can be Applied to lot's of situations...
for instance, it comprises my whole philosophy on Gay Marriage,
and Homosexuality in General...
P.S.
Men who Masturbate or use a condom
are killing thousands of Potential Children,
there should be a law against it... 
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| Jan 17 @ 11:28 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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| Jan 17 @ 11:35 PM |
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kattsmeow
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And that life is entitled to protection and rights too. 
Not only that, the father should have rights too. 
I too do not want the goverment telling me what I can do with my body. This all puts me in a quandry somethimes.
I do believe it is a baby before it's born too. I have always had problems with all of this though.
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