| Jan 31 @ 1:58 PM |
The Broadcast and Print News Media are Out-of-Control with biased reportage
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Paralegal_at_Law
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There is no more TRUTH to be presumed when one listens to either the broadcast or print news media anymore. Corrective legislation is an obviously necessary solution.
TV News people "stage" news events like what Geraldo did when he hired Afghani street urchins and bandaged them with phoney bandages and then stood in front of them to report the "stray bomb" incident even though he was 300 miles away from the actual location. Using stunt people/extras to portray persons in the news is NOT news, it is phoney and intended to decieve the news consumer into thinking he watched an actual televised event when in fact everyone was an actor.
The NewsWeek Magazine story of the Koran "flushed down the toilet" by Guantanemo Military Guards was totally fabricated, never happened, which they later admitted was the case, but worldwide Muslims rioted and killed 15 Christians in their rage. The reporter for this phoney story still has his job and was never fired.
The leftist bias of NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, and Reuters is well-documented. The tactics that the news media utilizes is to suppress any good news occurring among the conservative candidates, puff any liberal candidate, suppress any bad news affecting liberal politicians, and trumpet any bad news affecting any conservative politician. Many times what you DO NOT read or hear about is important and what you do read or hear about is so well filtered and spun, that it has become political propaganda after the model established by Josef Goebbels in Nazi Germany.
The NY Times gave the notoriusly-evil MoveOn.Org a huge and shameful discount on its full page rant against General Petraeus, in like manner as they disloyally published state secrets of National Security Agency operations targeting Al Qaeda and other international terrorist communications and foreign web sites.
Radio and TV Broadcasters are using the publicly-owned airwaves for political propaganda purposes. They operate by virtue of a federal license and do not own the frequencies that they use to broadcast their propaganda. This, of course, is their Achilles heel, because there is no law that requires the FCC to renew a license or which prevents them from assigning a new licensee to utilize the same frequency. Perhaps an assigned annual lottery for assigned frequencies might be an interesting tool to upset the broadcast applecart?
What about mandatory "opposition rebuttals" requiring equal time to offset the wrongful impression propaganda broadcasts of the favored politicians so called "news" events, exempting the entertainment programs such as Bill Marr, Rush Limbaugh, etc.
As for newspapers, unless a publication had duel Political News Editors named by the political party committees of both the Democrat and Republican state committees that had oversight to insure that political news stories were factual and not biased, offending newspapers should be defined by law as being "partisan papers" and should not be defined by laws as being "newspapers of general circulation" which status qualifies them to publish legal advertisements such as notices of election, request for public bids for government procurement, nor notices of foreclosures, etc. which legal ads generate a huge amount of newspaper revenues.
In closing, in any metropolitan area having no opposition political newspaper there should be a neutral newspaper having an equal amount of space devoted to pro Democrat and also pro Republican news articles, with inexpensive advertising rates for start up businesses and free help wanted ads where the newspaper is an organ of the proposed Corporation for Public Publishing, a sister organization to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
Dan Rather's 60 Minutes fabricated piece using forged documents that CBS News own questioned document experts instructed 60 Minutes not to use wrongfully impugned the military service record of a presidential candidate with slurs that were as phoney as they were intended to influence the election when it was broadcast only days prior to the presidential election. This is corruption at its worse and the careers of Dan Rather and the leftist Producers who were fired were deserving to be forever tarnished for thier underhanded attempt to hijack an election.
The entire news media industry is now corrupt and features ONLY yellow journalism which is nothing but one-sided propaganda. Lets take the whole industry to the woodshed and administer a most judicious spanking with some new laws that require "honesty" and "competency" for the public trust that reposes among news media outlets.
Your ON TOPIC cricicisms and comments are welcome, without any resorting to name-calling, insult-trading, or a divergence from the topic which is defined here.
[Edited on 1/31/2008 3:02 PM]
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| Jan 31 @ 2:04 PM |
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kattsmeow
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I really do have to agree with this. Whe I see something in the news on a certain site, I will go a lot of different other ones to see what is going on.
Then when it is conflicting, I try to read between the lines.
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| Jan 31 @ 3:19 PM |
The Broadcast and Print News Media are Out-of-Control with biased reportage
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Gallows_Humor
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I concur..but have reservations regarding..
Corrective legislation is an obviously necessary solution.
I think simply giving every media reporter. or AND every "DBA" a license or accreditation..than is easy to get..but after 3 strikes is permanently revoked would stop most of these shenanigans..
a strike is.. reporting anything in error...regardless of the reason...
a strike is.. quoting sources who are ghosts..
a strike is.... fabricating a news story.
this does not even have to be government run.. 
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| Jan 31 @ 3:25 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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this does not even have to be government run
It does too have to be government run if we wish to revoke the broadcasting license of a network or assign that frequency to another licensee "for cause" due to propaganda abuses.
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| Jan 31 @ 3:30 PM |
The Broadcast and Print News Media are Out-of-Control with biased reportage
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Gallows_Humor
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It does too have to be government run if we wish to revoke the broadcasting license of a network or assign that frequency to another licensee "for cause" due to propaganda abuses.
doesn't the FCC already have that power?... 
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| Jan 31 @ 5:32 PM |
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Nightowl001
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The media is as liable for libel or slander as any other entity or individual. I don't believe the founders foresaw broadcast media, but I think Jefferson would have been at the forefront of saying they can say any damned thing they like as long as it does not directly harm someone, harm being a perceptive term. Part of the problem with the media is that it is driven by the market. It was primarily the conservatives in the 80s who argued that regulation of media was hitting the pockets of business, and who wanted it deregulated and the FCC downsized or eliminated. Let 'em live with their results now.
Everybody knows FNC is full of crap, but they are more "entertaining" than "boring" news shows that simply report. Since they are entertaining, people watch, and when their veiwership goes up they get more advertising revenue. If they switched to an all-fact format without all of their biased opinions, they would lose viewers to some other "more entertaining" format and they would lose revenues. Regulating them all out of business won't help. And it would be "out of business." The entertainment value is frequently in the controversy. If they were all required to only strictly report facts, you could get the same news from any channel. They wouldn't have to get suspended for suspect information, as their viewership would drop while people went to watch American Idol and Law and Order. As revenues drop, you'd go back to a newscaster sitting in front of an acoustic wall reading. Until the public demands facts over entertainment broadcast media is going to be biased.
In no way do I approve of even implied government censorship, however, of print or broadcast media. If you don't like what's available, turn the page or the dial or the channel, or start your own outlet and promote it as the only "fact-based" news.
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| Jan 31 @ 6:17 PM |
The Broadcast and Print News Media are Out-of-Control with biased reportage
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Bj864
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Yes, they are out of contro.
I wonder why you didn't include any of the photo op's etc Bush has had on the news?
That makes you biased, just like the media, doesn't it?
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| Jan 31 @ 6:40 PM |
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kjac
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It's strange how biased those watching the news are. If they agree with what's being said, it's fair and balanced reporting. If they disagree, it must be some grand conspiracy between CNN and the Weather Channel.
It's called viewer bias, not media bias, and it's been proven by every single person here who attacks a source, then later uses the same source to prove a point about something else.
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| Jan 31 @ 6:54 PM |
The Broadcast and Print News Media are Out-of-Control with biased reportage
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LipGlossQueen9
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I dunno if we all do that, kjac. I watch the news for love of politics, not for love of an agenda. I also recognise that every news network and newspaper is biased in its own way; it would be ridiculous not to recognise that...
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| Jan 31 @ 7:10 PM |
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kjac
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Well LGQ, when it gets so bad that imbeciles are accusing the Weather Channel of being politically biased, it's hard to take any of the accusations seriously. I mean come on, the freaking Weather Channel!
Next thing you know, someone will accuse the Teletubbies of being liberal lapdogs for the gay agenda.
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| Jan 31 @ 7:11 PM |
The Broadcast and Print News Media are Out-of-Control with biased reportage
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LipGlossQueen9
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And Spongebob
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| Jan 31 @ 7:23 PM |
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thegoodideaman
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I sure wanted to agree with you on this...
( dam we came close to agreeing on something )
and if you hadn't neglected to mention that Fox News
is just as guilty as the rest of them for
Spin/Slant/Hype/Under-Reporting/Selective-Reporting etc...
I could have agreed with you WholeHeartedly,
but by leaving out Fox, you made me feel as though you where trying to "spin" Me...
seriously, have you watched "FoxNews" early in the Morning, or late at Night?
they've got young kids on there just shooting the breeze about "Crap-O'La"...
I resent it when "the News" is "reporting" on something, and 60 seconds into the segment,
you realize it's really a Commercial for so-and-so`s Book or other product...
I resent the fact that they try to make news Entertaining as Opposed to informative,
(witch is actually more likely to make me change the channel, not less)...
I resent it when they blow things out of Proportion
by trying to add G**D**** Drama to "everything"...
I resent the fact that everything is broken up into 3min. segments
because they think that's how long my attention span is...
I can tell when there trying to shape my point of View, and I resent that too...
I resent it when they try to tell me what I should be wearing this spring...
I resent the fact that they think O.J. Simpson is news... and unless Paris Hilton,
Jessica Simpson, Brittany Spears, and the rest of those Skanky Sluts,
find a Cure fore Cancer, I don't want to hear from them either...
mean while, perfectly legitimate stories go unreported...
those Lazy Bastards down at News-R-US need to get off there Lazy Asses
and do some real investigative Reporting,
if they don't have any material, I'll make them a list ...
also, evidently they need to hire somebody to throw out stories that just aren't NEWS...
I only have 3 sources for NEWS:
my Local news, to see what the WeatherMan's Guess is,
Various Shows on PBS...
the rest of my News I get entirely from his Supreme Highness
und mein Führer Paralegal_at_Law...
(which is as it should be)
oh, and Another thing, 60min. should fire everybody but Andy Rooney...
or at least Lead with him, so the world can change the channel...
Oh, and One More thing: I I I I I I I I I I I ............
[Edited on 1/31/2008 7:27 PM]
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| Jan 31 @ 7:23 PM |
The Broadcast and Print News Media are Out-of-Control with biased reportage
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capobeachguy
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Sure, pull the truth out of the hands of the media and hand it over to our government. Certainly they would never lie to the people of the United States!!!
[cough, cough] Gulf of Tonkin [cough, cough]
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| Jan 31 @ 7:28 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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To think that the News Media is unusually biased is to display a lack of knowledge of the history of the News Media in our country. Journalists being unbiased is a modern fiction. And yet, in spite of the excesses of past generations, the First Amendment has survived relatively unscathed.
So why the desire to attack yet another of the Bill of Rights? Haven't they suffered enough over the last seven years?
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| Jan 31 @ 8:22 PM |
The Broadcast and Print News Media are Out-of-Control with biased reportage
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Gallows_Humor
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but there was also....cough..cough... Propaganda and the media
Before the sinking of the USS Maine one American media correspondent stationed in Cuba was quoted as saying that the American people were being greatly deceived by the reporters sent to cover the revolution. According to him an overwhelming majority of the stories were obtained through third hand information often relayed by their Cuban interpreters and informants. These people were often sympathetic to the revolution and would distort the facts to shed a positive light on the revolution. Routinely small skirmishes would become large battles. Cuban oppression was depicted through inhumane treatment, torture, rape, and mass pillaging by the Spanish forces. These stories revealed heaps of dead men, women, and children left on the side of the road. Correspondents rarely bothered to confirm facts, the simply passed the stories on to their editors in the states where they would be put into publication after further editing and misrepresentation. This type of journalism became known as yellow journalism. Yellow journalism swept the nation and its propaganda helped to precipitate military action by the United States. The United States sent troops to Cuba as well as several other Spanish colonies throughout the world. ..cough..cough...
`..Link ~....
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| Jan 31 @ 8:37 PM |
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iam7545
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PARA - Relax - the NYT and LA TImes will soon be gone. People know that they are biased and stopped buying their papers long ago.
As we speak the NYT is involved in an attempt by institutional shareholder to overtake the board and oust control from their commie owners.
In 5 years these papers will be gone. May they RIP!
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| Jan 31 @ 8:49 PM |
The Broadcast and Print News Media are Out-of-Control with biased reportage
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SweetNapaGuy
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How many large-scale right-wing newspapers (i.e. the ones which dominate their cities) are going out of business?
In other words, is it an industry-wide decline, or simply a few metropolitan areas?
If the media ends up being newspapers replaced by blogging, we might as well sound the death knell for representative democracies, as well...
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| Jan 31 @ 9:03 PM |
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iam7545
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How many large-scale right-wing newspapers (i.e. the ones which dominate their cities) are going out of business?
None - the Examiner Papers are considered conservative. Most local franchises are growing. The WSJ has not been effected either.
Just like the downfall of CNN, MSNBC, NBC and Radio Soros - even liberals will not pay for or watch this non sense.
Below most individuals political colors lies sensibility. They simply will not continue to go back to these unreliable sources of info!
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| Jan 31 @ 10:13 PM |
The Broadcast and Print News Media are Out-of-Control with biased reportage
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SweetNapaGuy
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No, it looks like it's industry wide. As reported by the WSJ, here. It's a 2005 article, but it talks about the trends.
A 2007 article says the industry-wide drop in circulation has continued.
So it sounds more like a change in demographics (i.e. more internet-savvy young'uns) than a rejection of balanced reporting.
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| Jan 31 @ 10:51 PM |
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iam7545
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NO - The NYT is a multi media company -
he Gray Lady's Bones Are Showing
By David Lee Smith September 14, 2007
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This is almost like watching a slow starvation. New York Times' (NYSE: NYT) advertising revenue, already on a steady slide for years, fell another 3.2% in August.
The bad news is nothing new. Let's glance through the negatives, shall we?
* The News Media Group -- the newspapers -- saw revenue drop by 4.6% in a single month.
* All-important classified revenue plummeted 20% in the month, as weakness in real estate, help-wanted, and automobile ads took its toll.
* The hardest-hit entities were the New England Media Group, where ad revenue fell by 9% and the Regional Media Group, whose ad sales dropped by 11.9%. The New York Times Media Group was essentially flat, with a 0.2% increase.
There were still a few bright spots:
* Internet ad revenue grew by 28.2%.
* About.com checked in with ad sales up 27.4%.
But my Foolish friends know that, while the latter two percentages are impressive, the absolute amounts involved are dwarfed by those in the sinking traditional newspaper operations.
Times joins other publishers such as Gannett (NYSE: GCI), McClatchy (NYSE: MNI), and Tribune (NYSE: TRB) in recording virtually unbroken strings of ad-revenue declines. As a result, Times' share price -- which seemed stable in the mid-$20s -- began sliding again this summer, closing yesterday at $20.24. In a little more than three years, shares have shed half their value.
There were more reasons why August turned out to be a downer for Times. Late in the month, Moody's Investors Service cut its rating outlook on the company from "stable" to "negative." The credit rating company cited -- no surprises here -- increased pressure on Times' advertising revenue.
As this journalistic institution steadily decays, it's hard for me to imagine the changes Times will have to make in the next five years to remain viable. I can't envision a Rupert Murdoch springing forth with an attractive offer for the company, as was the case at Dow Jones (NYSE: DJ).
Obviously, the company needs some sort of tourniquet to stem its bleeding, and soon. In the meantime I can only imagine what Times chairman Arthur Sulzberger, Jr., and CEO Janet Robinson would give for just one month of positive numbers.
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