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Blondino
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 Europe Loves Obama
Portugal ‘Europe sees Barack Obama as the antithesis of George W. Bush. And confronted with the state of the world, this is something that makes all the difference. Seen from the Old Continent, Obama symbolizes the American spirit in the European heart. He may not represent the full complexity of America, but he certainly represents the America that exists in the Europe’s wildest imagination.’ Germany BERLIN: Barack Obama's popularity extends far beyond Iowa and into the heart of Central Europe. Germany has swiftly developed a serious case of Obama-mania.
Obama's high standing goes beyond his opposition to the Iraq War, which has always been unpopular here. The sudden crush is intimately bound up with the near constant comparisons here between the young senator from Illinois and President John F. Kennedy - still admired in Germany and particularly in Berlin - which have stuck fast as his identity in the German press.
The Berliner Morgenpost over the weekend ran with the headline, "The New Kennedy." The tabloid Bild went with, "This Black American Has Become the New Kennedy!"
An editorial in the Frankfurter Rundschau went one historic president better with a headline that read simply: "Lincoln, Kennedy, Obama," adding that "hope and optimism" are "the source of the nation's strength."
Obama's newfound popularity among Germans underscores not only the breadth of his appeal but also the opportunity he might have as president - though he is still far from the White House, much less his party's nomination - to mend fences abroad as well as at home. http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/01/06/europe/berlin.phpIn Paris, stories about Obama replaced President Nicolas Sarkozy's love life on the front pages of the newspapers Le Figaro, Libération and Le Monde, which on the day after the Iowa caucuses proclaimed: "The Greater America opts for the New Man."
At a news conference today in Paris, Sarkozy said he's also following the U.S. elections closely. In between fielding questions about his romance with French model Carla Bruni, Sarkozy said he has met with Obama, but would not hint at who he was backing. "It's not me who decides," he told reporters.
London dailies followed suit. "Race reshaped by the son of Kenyan goatherd," blared The Times of London, which, along with the Daily Telegraph, The Independent and The Guardian, featured large photos of Obama in front-page articles. Multipage spreads adorned the inside of top-selling British newspapers.
Here in Germany, where many were surprised to see Sen. Hillary Clinton place third in Iowa, major newspapers printed headlines comparing Obama with John F. Kennedy, still a revered figure in Germany and particularly in Berlin. A headline in The Berliner Morgenpost this weekend screamed "The New Kennedy." The tabloid newspaper Bild, the largest selling news daily in the country, went with, "This Black American Has Become the New Kennedy!" http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=4101774&page=1In the Netherlands, the left-leaning De Volkskrant reports that the US primaries are giving the Dutch "goose bumps…. Obama has the authenticity that the Dutch electorate craves. " In Britain, the centrist Times of London confirms that the Tories are suffering an identity crisis by reporting that "Tories and Labour both hope for a sprinkling of Barack Obama's stardust. Ripples of excitement from the campaign of the presidential contender have crossed the Atlantic, and British politicians are agog."
Europe votes Obama
February 7, 2008
The excitement generated by the American primaries has echoed around the world. It’s especially strong in Europe, where it has grabbed public attention like no other American campaign I can recall since the days of John F. Kennedy. Europeans are not only fascinated by this race for the White House; they wish they could vote in it.
If they could, a majority would probably choose Barak Obama. I say “probably” because opinion polls have been remarkably unreliable in this election year. But my own observations indicate that Obama’s appeal cuts across all political and class divisions abroad, from cab drivers to the top echelons of European society.
http://www.theworld.org/?q=node/15860
I for one have had dreams about you Barack  opps thats not something I can discuss in here
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| Feb 10 @ 1:48 PM |
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CPUfan
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Yes Obama is extremely popular in the Scandinavian countries too. Hillary's crying for the women's vote isn't making for a very good impression at present. A few commentators have expressed the hope that she will not cry during international crises. 
McCain is reported quite favourably but the journalists rarely add any comment, but for the fact that he is a Vietnam war hero and the only likely Republican candidate.
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| Feb 10 @ 2:00 PM |
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eastham
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I think I can clarify the various disperate languages of Europe into one political Esperanto...ANYONE BUT BUSH!
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| Feb 10 @ 2:05 PM |
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Blondino
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Germans are gaga over Barack Obama. He's got Japan pretty jazzed,
takes a lot to get Germans excited !!
Non-Americans, she said, are looking for someone who can "restore faith in the United States."
Obama, perhaps not surprisingly, is generating most of the buzz abroad.
"Der schwarze Kennedy," some German admirers are calling him: "The black JFK."
"He is young, charming and sexy!" the mass-circulation newspaper Bild gushed. "Obama is now the ideal projection screen for hopes and expectations in Europe" and the U.S. alike, said Christian Hacke, a professor at the University of Bonn.
"I like him. I like his ideas, his attitude, his appearance. I prefer him to Hillary Clinton, who is more artificial," said Eva Berto, a Rome doctor who thinks Obama would bring a new approach to the crisis in Iraq and the nuclear standoff with Iran.
Japanese media are closely tracking both Obama and the woman they refer to simply as "Hillary," and focusing on the possibility that either could make history.
"The idea since the country's founding — 'You can't become president if you're not a white man' — has already been destroyed," the Mainichi newspaper said in an editorial.
 Go Barack
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| Feb 10 @ 2:15 PM |
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iam7545
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Well now -
Most of Europe believed that Israel and Bush imploded the World Trade Center!
But of course Obama is a much more appealing person than Billary!
There is no doubt about that!
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| Feb 10 @ 2:22 PM |
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Novalite
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I like Obama as well. He'll make the Best President I believe.
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| Feb 10 @ 2:33 PM |
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iam7545
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A few commentators have expressed the hope that she will not cry during international crises
cpu - after several recent crying moments it is clear that -
as my Grand Mother would say -
"A Margaret Thatcher she is NOT"
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| Feb 10 @ 3:12 PM |
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kattsmeow
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Hey, maybe he should go over there and run for a goverment office! 
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| Feb 10 @ 4:58 PM |
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Blondino
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| Feb 10 @ 5:44 PM |
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MusicMonster
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Katts came up with this idea!!
Hey, maybe he should go over there and run for a goverment office!
Now THERE'S an pretty cool solution if you ask me!!! heh heh Katts, have you ever run for public office? 
HiYa Blondino Ma'am!! Over across the BIg Pond..  Good to see ya back, making the Forums a better place! Yessiree!
Actually if Obama didn't have such an odd view of Illegal Immigration. precisely the same as McCain's view, (since they both worked on the same Alien Forgiveness Bill together with What'sHisName, oh yeah - Kennedy), and if he seemed to have some understanding of what "illegal" vs "legal" actually means, and why we have such laws, (when he never acknowledges that in any way, or recognizes what the country demands from it's leaders), he might make a signficantly more viable candidate.
But then, we was an "Immigration Lawyer" while in practice, so I'm sure much of his perpetually defensive viewpoint regarding illegal aliens comes from fighting many battles for them over amnesty. .
..and if his HealthCare plan was more comprehensive and workable by today's standards, then I might well be in his camp too. I think he means well..
There are a few other minor issues too, but that's most of it for me. As a leader I think he does show some promise, even if he is much too short on experience at this juncture, and even if a lot of what he says very likley cannot actually tranlate into reality. But he doesn't know that. He just hasn't been there yet.
Hillary is certainly not perfect either, but she does have a rather successful track record, that we could do a lot worse than to return to. That is, her 8 years in the White House with William, and her follow-up years in the Senate, in both cases, where she was pretty active in social issues.
So the Dems are indeed working with the lesser of the evils there. Unfortunately in McCain's case, and the Repubs, we seem to have ended up with the worst of all possibilities, for some strange reason.. The guy who was universally rejected a year ago, turns out today as the front-runner!  That will take some figuring out, as to how we ever got to that point, when there were many better choices, in my estimation. .
Geeze!! Wish I could color-code MY posts and insert great pics too!! But alas.. 
-MM 
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| Feb 10 @ 5:59 PM |
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Jankia
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After reading all your links,that European love for Obama is just the same as your own.
Its only cosmetic.
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| Feb 10 @ 6:01 PM |
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kjac
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Near as I can tell, the Europeans are gaga over anyone who isn't part of the current regime.
I seem to recall Britain's new Prime Minister suggesting cooling relations with the US until the new administration takes over. Whatever happened with that?
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| Feb 10 @ 6:09 PM |
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Blondino
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Near as I can tell, the Europeans are gaga over anyone who isn't part of the current regime.
Maye true after the fool who seems to not know where Austria is .. or Australia .. anyone is an improvement ... foreign policy when you have no idea of geography or other cultures is an accident waiting to happen 
I seem to recall Britain's new Prime Minister suggesting cooling relations with the US until the new administration takes over. Whatever happened with that?
Gordon ?? I thought he had cooled off
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| Feb 10 @ 6:35 PM |
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Blondino
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The vast majority of British people, he added, are “pro-America but anti-Bush. To have those feelings brought back into alignment [by an Obama presidency] would be very welcome.”
The positivity about Mr. Obama on the other side of the Atlantic seems almost exclusively focused upon his racial background and the aura of freshness that surrounds him. Some see dangers in that.
Gary Younge, a Guardian columnist, recently questioned how much change Mr. Obama’s candidacy really offered.
“He has the role of an inadequate and ineffective balm on the long-running sore that is race in America,” Mr. Younge wrote on Monday. “His victory would symbolize a great deal and change very little.”
Such views surely exaggerate the gulf between symbolism and substance. Sometimes, the symbolism is the substance—or at least part of it. In Mr. Obama’s case, the “visuals” of his election would have profound consequences—in relation to how America is seen and, especially, what assumptions are made about its fundamental fairness as a society.
In the midst of the near-hysteria that surrounds Mr. Obama at present, it is worth remembering that he is still a very long way from the White House. And the tendency, especially in Europe, to see his candidacy solely through the prism of his race means that a defeat for him would in all likelihood be taken as confirmation of America’s irredeemably racist nature.
Mr. Waters asserted that some “pseudo-liberals” would be “triumphant” if Mr. Obama were ultimately defeated “because they would be vindicated in their view of America.”
But if he were to win, well, what will they say then?
http://www.observer.com/2008/how-obama-will-silence-smug-europeans
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| Feb 10 @ 6:37 PM |
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kjac
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It makes sense they'd like Obama. Out of who's left, he's the candidate least like the current regime.
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CPUfan
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Hmmm "cosmetic love" ... sounds like a description of when politicians croon about their love of "freedom" and "democracy" One wonders just how deeply they really love them ...
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| Feb 10 @ 11:32 PM |
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SensualGemini
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...For a fact, Obama has no political track record and besides his charisma, maybe that is the best thing he has going for him... if you have not listened to his ideologies.
...Europe likes Obama because he will raise the interest rates that are now forcing the European economical power of Germany to lower theirs to either compete with the lower US dollar, or face increasing imports that just might balance the trade deficit they have enjoyed for so long.
...There is no difference in Obama and Clinton as far as Iraq goes.
...All it seems to take in any country for popularity, is how the media presents someone to the people and who controls the media?
...No matter what happens with the next administration, they will blame any negativity on the past one as perpetual rhetoric... that all Americans have heard over and over.
...Yep, vote someone in office by their charisma, lack of experience that leaves no trail and forget about their ideologies that have yet to put their stamp on America to the benefit of Europe or anyplace but America.
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| Feb 10 @ 11:39 PM |
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willsmalto
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It's not just Europe, many a person globally loves Obama. who doesn't love a WINNER? 
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| Feb 10 @ 11:41 PM |
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Jankia
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 I didnt care much for New England until they lost the Super Bowl willsmalto.
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| Feb 11 @ 12:24 AM |
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willsmalto
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I have a big weakness. I always tend to lean towards winners, Jankia ...don;t know why.
Whether they're winning or losing, I'm a huge giant fan and always will be
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