| Feb 10 @ 9:32 PM |
How much is the race card swaying the election?
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Bj864
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I am going to admit that I feel a bit bothered that so many blacks are voting for Obama, just because he is black.
Bill and Hillary Clinton have made extraordinary efforts toward the black community, but look how quick people turned to their own race and away from Hillary.
What does this say about race situation in this country? The whites are always accused of racism, but what is this?
I have nothing against Obama. I think he is an incredible speaker and is a very inspiration person.
I would never vote for a person based on the color of their skin, but it appears to me that many are doing just that.
Just wondering what others think or if they have thought of it at all.
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| Feb 10 @ 9:39 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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I support Hillary Clinton '08!
I will not support Obama in '08! When he did not honor the flag by putting his hand over his heart in respect for our fallen people! Showed me he had disrespect! He made his choice and I have made mine!
Yes, the blacks did forsake Hillary and it made no difference how much she and Bill had done for them! It showed to me they have no loyality except to their race! Obama has never done anything for the Black Americans!
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| Feb 10 @ 9:43 PM |
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whatagal
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What everyone forgets, including Obama, is that he is WHITE TOO!
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| Feb 10 @ 9:53 PM |
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iam7545
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Bill Clinton pulled the race card - he made a big mistake too!
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| Feb 10 @ 9:58 PM |
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DoorWatcher
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For me, it says that racism may well be a permanent condition. One to one, we may have friends of other races and feel akin to others, but when a situation arises where race is a factor or a defining characteristic, the majority always seems to pack together. Be it for reasons of past injustices, current economic conditions, etc., etc., 'like' seeks and supports 'like.' Another thing, too: like she above ^^^ said, Obama is half white. Why is he considered black? Yes, I know the historical precedence but if blacks, and our society in general, despair over that unfortunate aspect of our history, why do blacks still adhere to guidelines straight from that time period? Just me thinking aloud -- something I was pondering this morning before work. 
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| Feb 10 @ 10:17 PM |
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nah12
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voting because of race is no different than voting because of gender....and if people do not see that one as well they are wearing blinders........you can not speak of one without bring up the other there is no difference….both are happening
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| Feb 10 @ 10:26 PM |
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MusicMonster
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I would never vote for a person based on the color of their skin, but it appears to me that many are doing just that.
Clearly that's true BJ.. Especially notable by the Exit Poll analysis in South Carolina which showed the caucasion vote split rather evenly, and the black vote at almost 90% for Obama..
I've heard a lot too, that blacks should feel compelled to vote for Obama because he's black. Well no, that's altogether the wrong reason. Vote for him if he's the best overall person for the job, regardless of his skin color. Anything else only promotes racial division, which I don't think anyone wants to return to.
Elections should be based on electing the best person for the job on a basis of merit, ability and qualifcations. If we promote a candiate with agendas other than that in mind, we are likely to develop problems.
-MM 
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| Feb 10 @ 10:33 PM |
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vance728
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here here mm 
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| Feb 10 @ 11:13 PM |
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uluulu
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"I am going to admit that I feel a bit bothered that so many blacks are voting for Obama, just because he is black.
What does this say about race situation in this country? "
It's just a coincidence that 90% of blacks are voting for obama. Yeah,that's it.
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| Feb 10 @ 11:53 PM |
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SensualGemini
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...Well, I think the Republicans need a Black/Spanish/Caucasion presidential candidate that shows a little respect for flag and country, carries out the laws as they swear to do... and they will sweep the polls.
...Right now, I would vote for anyone that is adament about border control and Illegal immigration and let Congress do their job and sort the rest of it out.
...The laws on immigration are already there and the Executive's branch failure of carrying out the laws, as they swore to do, have yet to be accomplished in some three decades by either party.
...This election sucks on all fronts.
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| Feb 11 @ 12:07 AM |
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DoorWatcher
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Border control? Hasn't that been seen as a two-edged sword? I read the other day about a border city, in Texas I think, that is totally against the barrier FENCE that is coming their way.
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| Feb 11 @ 1:14 AM |
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SensualGemini
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...Probably because the mayor's backyard is on the border and trafficking is profitable. That is alright, they can just bend the fence a little north and around that town.
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| Feb 11 @ 1:17 AM |
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DoorWatcher
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No, I believe it was the golf course and high school football field. They have no problems, and they resent the intrusion. There is always two sides to an issue...(grammatically incorrect or what???)
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| Feb 11 @ 5:11 AM |
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arieann
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I thinks its wrong, but I can understand black people voting for Barak because he is black. I am sure there are alot of white people not going to vote for him just because he is black. Obama has my vote. I like his views on issues that I am concerned with in this country.
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| Feb 11 @ 6:47 AM |
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whatagal
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In my book, Obama isn't black. He is biracial. His father is black and his mother is white. Everyone seems to evade this issue!
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| Feb 11 @ 7:08 AM |
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Blondino
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I would have thought his experiences with different cultures and races would be a huge plus in the world... and give him great Kudos with other world leaders.
His mother , I read , was an anthropologist .... so seems he has been brought up to admire and respect differences . 
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| Feb 11 @ 7:56 AM |
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Lee_Danger
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I think a lot of women will vote for Hillary just because they are women and she's a woman - so I call it a fair race between the two.
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| Feb 11 @ 9:09 AM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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Hillary's female following does not compare to Obama's African American following in most states.
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| Feb 11 @ 9:21 AM |
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Say_Yes
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So far at least, race has not played that much in the primary results. While Obama is getting the vast majority of the Black vote, Hillary is getting the vast majority of the Hispanic vote. Since the two voting blocks are fairly similar in size, the net effect is negligible.
BTW, while Obama is mixed race, he views himself as being black, as do most black Americans. For that matter, so do most white Americans. Once again, this is a case where perception has become a reality.
In some ways, Obama's racial mix, may well make him more acceptable in some areas of the country. Just look at Tiger Woods, who is also a racial mix. Not only is he the best golfer in the world, he is most popular. This in a sport that is all but lilly white. Just as race is not an issue there, with the largely white fan base, it may be that race will be less of an issue, with some segments of the voting public.
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| Feb 11 @ 11:46 AM |
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MusicMonster
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I think a lot of women will vote for Hillary just because they are women and she's a woman - so I call it a fair race between the two.
That's true as well, and just as wrong as any other unfounded bias, without any substance behind it.. But the scales are very different. As pointed out earlier, for example, the black vote which won the primary hands down for Obama in SC, was almost 90% pro-Obama, while the other demographics, including female, were overall quite balanced between the two. We don't see that sort of thing developing near to that extent for women favoring Clinton.. However to the extent that it does prevail, it is just as misguided.
Which all simply indicates many Americans are voting for all the wrong reasons.
-MM
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