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Gallows_Humor
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They were in L.A.!  
Tampa bay Florida...
TAMPA – The Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office said Tuesday
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| Feb 14 @ 11:01 PM |
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Jankia
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He says the the riots were in Tampa Bay Angel,not LA.Maybe the cops were rioting against people in wheelchairs? 
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| Feb 15 @ 4:56 AM |
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MusicMonster
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Reverend Al has had plenty of time to get there by now!
This is a News Item, with Press and TV cameras and everything..
He should certainly be there! It would surely boost his credibility.
So where is he, cape and all? 
Who's making up the signs?
And when do we march on the Jailhouse?
-MM 
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| Feb 15 @ 6:12 AM |
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beckyiv42000
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shh Im not here.. the politics boards scare me  ...
but BOTH those officers (and the ones watching and ignoring) went way past necessary force....
I mean what the heck is a quadriplegic gonna do to defend himself ??? I sure as heck didn't see him resist..
.and the cop in the yellow was just like WHOA... throwing a kid down like that in a headlock was way outta line... battery over SKATEBOARDING?? he KNEW he had gone too far when he asked if the camera was on ... 
In BOTH cases with the way the people where thrown to the ground there was a chance of head trauma ..now how fast would BOTH these cops been in jail if either of the people had died from head trauma.. or in the boys case spinal or neck injury??? in neither case where the suspects FLEEING ... or attempting to flee... I am a big advocate of discipline and respect from kids but when you have cops like that take advantage of the power they wield... how can you expect the kids or ANYONE to respect them??? IMO both suspects have huge cases against the cops ...even more so the guy in the wheelchair because NO other police who where sitting there watching stepped up to stop it.. isn't that like aiding and abetting?? I know it sure isn't protecting and serving 
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| Feb 15 @ 7:25 AM |
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eastham
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save your time - they guy got two injuries - a bruise and a Lawyer! - thats all.
There were quite a few reports that there were concerns that Sterner had broken two ribs, but he was x-rayed and found to have two badly bruised ribs. A bruised rib or a broken rib in a quadriplegic is not the same as for you and I. Quadriplegics have compromised use of their diaphrams and are always at greater risk for pneumonia. Add a bruised or broken rib, especially a broken rib, and you are at added risk for life-threatening pneumonia.
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| Feb 15 @ 11:01 AM |
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iam7545
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There were quite a few reports that there were concerns that Sterner had broken two ribs, but he was x-rayed and found to have two badly bruised ribs. A bruised rib or a broken rib in a quadriplegic is not the same as for you and I. Quadriplegics have compromised use of their diaphrams and are always at greater risk for pneumonia. Add a bruised or broken rib, especially a broken rib, and you are at added risk for life-threatening pneumonia
Well - his lawyer must he a freakin faith healer in his spare time - the guy was on every TV news show in the USA just days after the incident.
Anyone that has broken or bruised a rib will tell you that sitting upright, breathing and talking are extremely painful activities after such injuries.
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| Feb 15 @ 11:22 AM |
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graywolf
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iam, just for the record, at one time suffered from 3 cracked ribs, it is not painful to sit upright or stand upright or to breath as you state. It is however very painful to go from a standing to a sitting position or from a sitting to standing position. As for the breatheing, normal breathing is okay but any coughs or laughing will result in much pain. Just want to get that out there and as I said it is from personal experience not something I heard and mine were cracked not just bruised, which I have also suffered and are not nearlly as painful.
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| Feb 15 @ 11:33 AM |
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iam7545
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gray - I have cracked and broken ribs twice. I would not be going from on TV Newsroom to another if it were me. It is quite painful to move at all. As a matter of fact a broken rib is not as painful as a bruised rib.
I am not minimizing what they did to this guy and am certainly not excusing it. He has very little in the way of personal physical injury as the result of what the police did to him. We just need to keep it in perspective.
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| Feb 15 @ 11:40 AM |
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graywolf
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I agree IAM and this incident should never have happened. Those who did it should be fired an perhaps even serve a little time to learn a lesson. It just seems that so many want to use this as a way to carry on there own rampage, as they do in many threads in this forum, the most recent being the shooting yesterday.
There are lots of really good discusions here but is sometime difficult to find them for all the trash that gets posted. This is just my opinion of course and a general comment regarding the state of things in the Political & current Events Forum.
Okay now the attacks can commence but be forewarned I will be ignoring them.
Edited to correct typos not content.
[Edited on 2/15/2008 11:46 AM]
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| Feb 15 @ 11:40 AM |
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Gallows_Humor
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the new improved iam.... 
perspective is everything...
taunt a tiger...it is the zoo's fault..
dump a papapalegic to the floor for no valid reason... ( which if indeed his ribs were cracked broken or brusied.. how in the hell would he feel it??? 
which would shorten his lifespan dramatically.. read up on what para's and quad's die from..
and Iam becomes a voice of reason as he was beaten by cops 40 years ago...
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| Feb 15 @ 11:45 AM |
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iam7545
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like this ^^^^^^^^^
There are lot so f really good discusions here but is sometime difficult to find them for all the trash that gets posted. This is just my opinion of course and a general comment regarding the astate of things in the Political & current Events Forum.
gh - WTF are you babbling about now?
It was the Zoo's fault. Get over it! They will pay millions for the haphazard way they run the Zoo.
The cops here should be fired and they will be I am sure-
When this guy dies from his dumping I will discuss it with you. In the meantime I will take any bet from you that he is just fine and that he reamains quite healthy for his situation and lives long enough to collect hundreds of thousands of dollars for his Attorney. 
He has been reduced to a meal ticket for a scum bag Lawyer.
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| Feb 15 @ 12:04 PM |
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Gallows_Humor
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So much for the new improved Iam.... .. ( welcome back... )
(btw,,,you should talk to MsChoos more......and send her some  too!)
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| Feb 15 @ 10:47 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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iam7545...said this...."Anyone that has broken or bruised a rib will tell you that sitting upright, breathing and talking are extremely painful activities after such injuries."....and this too...."gray - I have cracked and broken ribs twice. I would not be going from on TV Newsroom to another if it were me. It is quite painful to move at all. As a matter of fact a broken rib is not as painful as a bruised rib."....!
You,sir, are without a doubt one of the most callous, uncaring and extremely dysfunctional so-called man I have ever come across in my lifetime! You talk and talk and never realize that you have no clue as to what you are talking about! This thread is a perfect example of the skewed puke you regurgitate everyday you live and breath!
You never watched the video did you? You never saw the wheel-chair this guy was sitting in did you? You did not hear when he said and the reporter said he was a "quadriplegic"? He has no feeling from his arm-pits down!
If he had broken anything, below the arm-pit area, he would not have known it! As his "spinal cord" has been severed. C-4,C-5,C-6....!
You are sick!
Now, that I have exposed these ridiculous and asinine postings of yours I just hope others will see what a gross individual you really are! Those postings were absolutely despicable!
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| Feb 15 @ 10:59 PM |
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Jankia
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Why is that ridiculous and asinine lefty? Have you never broken a rib? Ive had four broken and one that punctured my lung,it aint painless believe me.
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| Feb 15 @ 11:03 PM |
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iam7545
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L _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Y loves trolling me jankia-
Other than watching reruns of the Beverley Hillbillys he doesn't do much!
I wouldn't pay any attention to him if I were you.
The guy has been all over TV - he admits that all he got was a bruise. Just another example of Oprah mentality.
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| Feb 15 @ 11:15 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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Jankia.....The man in the wheel-chair is a quadriplegic! He has absolutely no feeling from his arm pits down. If he had two broken ribs, two broken legs and one was being sawed off he would know nothing about it as he has no feeling! His spinal cord has been severed! Cut in two! Therefore, all nerves that run beyond the cut are dead!
Unless he could actually see something wrong he would have to be x-rayed in order for him to know of any damage to his body!
Yes, you and I would know immediately as our spinal cords are intact and our nerves are working perfectly! But, his is not because his spinal cord is severed in the region C-4, C-5, C-6 in his neck right at or a little above the shoulder! Where you would get a "whiplash" in a car accident when your head would go forward and back real rapidly!
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| Feb 15 @ 11:21 PM |
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Jankia
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That depends lefty,not all quadriplegic's live without pain,some are only partial.
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| Feb 15 @ 11:33 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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Jankia.....Then I take it you did not watch the video! If you had you would have known what he said about how far down he was able to feel! And he jestured with his hand to show where his feeling ended! And that he is a quad!
nuf said!
You do know a person has to live with themselves even after they have been exposed to the truth....yet, they still deny it having been said!
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| Feb 15 @ 11:42 PM |
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MusicMonster
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Well, I still think Reverend Al is way overdue on the scene!!
AND I think we should go down there and March on the JailHouse!
-MM 
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| Feb 16 @ 12:37 AM |
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SensualGemini
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...I just saw the Baltimore cop and the kids. Damn, what a dick! ... How did that fat boy fit into his scooter? The kids should have ran, as that cop could not have caught a Twinkie, if it was rolling towards him. 
...All they did was suspend the cop? And if it was not on video, nothing would have happened. Except if it was my kid... what you say about waterboarding there MM?
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