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jimbo242
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Repression never looks into a mirror.....that would require self-examination rather than blaming others.
Cause and effect is never considered in the same context by the black and white mentality of reactionaries....only cause. To seek cause would be a rational approach that is sure to expose fault.
Just as the US government has used 911 to further repression, governments around the globe used 911 and the impending "war on terror" to further control of their own populations.
If only we could objectively investigate possible causes for 911 and stop trying to convince the ignorant that all Arabs are born with an evil gene or something else just a idiotic. It could be said, a few radical Islamic believers in the myth of, life after death, returned a small amount of the violence that has been imposed on them for decades by the west.
Basic rights and freedoms have never been automatic in America. What so-called inalienable rights that have been realized were acheived through great struggle and only because of our basic right, Freedom of Speech. The other basic human rights like, Right to Equal Protection Under The Law and Right to Due Process and a Fair Trial have never been achieved.
Civil Rights and Labor Rights were never a given in this country. They were demanded and fought for by dedicated, patriotic Americans. This countries ruling class, aided and abetted by prostitute politicians, never would have given a damn about basic human rights out of the goodness of their black hearts.
While it is much better than it's shameful past indicates, this country has a long way to go before it will be.... as advertised.
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| Feb 16 @ 4:57 PM |
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Jankia
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Just as the US government has used 911 to further repression, governments around the globe used 911 and the impending "war on terror" to further control of their own populations.
If you say so...
Today-BAGHDAD: Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Al Maliki proclaimed yesterday that Al Qaeda had been routed in Baghdad thanks to a security plan launched a year ago, and would soon be defeated throughout the country.
"Today our forces are locked in battle against outlaws in Nineveh and we are chasing them," Maliki said at a ceremony marking the launch of the Baghdad security plan, known as Operation Fardh Al Qanoon (Imposing Law).
He thanked "all those who helped make the security plan a success and who saved the country from the miserable situation it was in due to Al Qaeda's violence and terrorism."
On behalf of the United States your welcome Nuri Al Maliki.
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| Feb 16 @ 5:23 PM |
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jimbo242
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On behalf of the United States your welcome Nuri Al Maliki.
Slinkie....you can't post a comment without exposing how little you know and how hard you try to justify the Bush doctrine....Iraq would be an example of a "basket case," not a repressive government.
Open your narrow mind, get off of your right-wing soap box and look at the role the WTO and the Military Industrial Complex plays.....consider Israel is our sub-contractor for arms to third world countries.....increased Russian aggression just after 911...etc.
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| Feb 16 @ 5:59 PM |
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Jankia
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I'm not trying to justify anything,I'm only pointing out the stupidity of some of what you write.
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| Feb 16 @ 8:03 PM |
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Bj864
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I'm not trying to justify anything,I'm only pointing out the stupidity of some of what you write.
Have you EVER looked up real facts to see how many actual Al queda have been in Iraq? I doubt it. They are responsible for only a small amount of the deaths and destruction.
People should take responsibility for their actions. That means WE need to look in the mirror as a country and take responsibility for ours, instead of always trying to blame someone else.
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| Feb 16 @ 8:51 PM |
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Jankia
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I suppose the Prime Minister didnt bother to check the facts either and he lives there? Will you prove what you say?... They are responsible for only a small amount of the deaths and destruction.
I doubt it. 
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| Feb 16 @ 9:01 PM |
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Angel54214
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Ah those disfunctional slinkies (OP), search the wide world with a pen light, eventually get there while others pass to ring the freedom bell.
My name is Angel by the way, not sister. 
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| Feb 17 @ 1:12 AM |
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Novalite
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Jimbo If only we could objectively investigate possible causes for 911 and stop trying to convince the ignorant that all Arabs are born with an evil gene or something else just a idiotic.
I have only heard that when people such as yourself attempt to portray the right as something they are not. Can you back up your assertion that somebody has a widespread campaign of trying to convince the ignorant that all Arabs are born with an evil gene or something else" with some sort of proof please?
JimboIt could be said, a few radical Islamic believers in the myth of, life after death, returned a small amount of the violence that has been imposed on them for decades by the west.
Could be but, that would be wrong. Very wrong and, in keeping with the majority of misinformed anti American morons on the middle to extreme left and right have no idea of what is going on. Try looking up Qutbism, so you can actually read up on what Osama Bin Laden and his ilk (which comprises over two hundred terrorist/jihadist organizations) believe and, why they act. none of it has anything to do with violence perpetrated by the west and, is only a propaganda tool to use as recruitment for their conquest goals.
Qutbism has gained notoriety from its association with jihadi extremists like Osama bin Laden. According to some observers, jihadi extremists “cite Sayyid Qutb repeatedly and consider themselves his intellectual descendants.”
Eikmeier calls it "a fusion of puritanical and intolerant Islamic orientations," that includes not only Qutb's ideas but those of Abul Ala Maududi, Hassan al Banna, and even Shia elements,
"to justify armed jihad in the advance of Islam, and other violent methods utilized by twentieth century militants. ... Qutbism advocates violence and justifies terrorism against non-Muslims and apostates in an effort to bring about the reign of God. Others, i.e., Ayman Al-Zawahiri, Abdullah Azzam, and Osama bin Laden built terrorist organizations based on the principles of Qutbism and turned the ideology of Islamic-Fascism into a global action plan."
You may also wish to familiarize yourself with the Militant's dream of recreating the Calipahte which also has nothing to do with the moron's view of how jihadists are simply returning "a small amount of the violence that has been imposed on them for decades by the west."
Mullah Mustapha Kreikar, leader of the Muslim terrorist group Ansar al-Islam, declaimed from his safe haven in Norway on the religious character of the struggle: “The resistance is not only a reaction to the American invasion, it is part of the continuous Islamic struggle since the collapse of the caliphate. All Islamic struggles since then are part of one organized effort to bring back the caliphate.”
Bone up a bit then write something smart. Looking forward to it. 
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| Feb 17 @ 1:19 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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@Jimbo
a few radical Islamic believers in the myth of, life after death, returned a small amount of the violence that has been imposed on them for decades by the west.
Jimbo, PLEASE stop telling fibs! The American merchant marine during the administration of President Thomas Jefferson DID NOT gratuitously inflict violence on the Islamic Barbary Pirates. It was the Islamic barbaric attacks on American shipping which brought about the Barbary Pirates War and the slogan:
"Millions for Defense but not one cent in tribute."
So, ever since America was an infant nation, Islamic terror has visited us with gratuitious violence.
Jimbo's hallucinations are not to be believed (again and as usual,)
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| Feb 17 @ 11:42 AM |
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Novalite
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Hey, after I posted the abvove in a blog reply column, I got this e mail from somebody as a response.
You little coc*sucker.....Your comment was deleted because you can't control your insults....I never minded disagreement...if I didn't get disagreement from the far right I would be concerned but there was no reason to call people that think outside the box morons......you...a fuc*ing Canadian can shove your opinions up your a$s,,,,when I comment on what's wrong with Canada you can tell me to do the same thing....get the hint?
My reply top this individual who shall remain nameless was as follows;
My goodness, you certainly have that rubber tire belly of yours in a knot. If you will note, you were the one insulting your country and I was simply pointing out that you lacked facts which I supplied for you.
Nice note you sent me though. I will post it to the appropriate place. 
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| Feb 17 @ 12:01 PM |
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sealacamp
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This nameless person has demonstrated over and over again that his mentality is that of an idiot not a moron. If he were a moron then he would be smarter than a 3 year old and it is questionable that his mental level is above that of 3 considering the feelings that he presents as facts, which in fact are not. But what else would you expect from a leftist, communist that wants us all to suffer the theories of Marxism.
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| Feb 17 @ 12:06 PM |
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Jankia
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Dont you just love it when when the tough guys have to resort to name calling because thats all the information thats left in there empty heads.
This wouldnt happen to be the same individual that gets his laughs out of pushing religious people down stairways is it?
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| Feb 17 @ 12:08 PM |
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iam7545
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can we spell
R O I D R A G E ?
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| Feb 17 @ 12:12 PM |
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Novalite
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Dont you just love it when when the tough guys have to resort to name calling because thats all the information thats left in there empty heads.
I'd prefer discussion with the responses directed at my points instead but, for some, that is too much to ask it seems. I'm wondering what this thread would look like if a certain blogger had control over it. Pretty one sided to say the least.
His way or the jizway. 
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| Feb 17 @ 12:19 PM |
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kattsmeow
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It always amazes me that a few people have a hard time finding words to use that are not profanity. Maybe it is too hard for them,, takes a lot of brain power,,
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| Feb 17 @ 1:08 PM |
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sealacamp
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Maybe it is too hard for them,, takes a lot of brain power,,
Funny that you should say that Katt. My dad used to say that too and I have found it to be true.
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| Feb 17 @ 9:31 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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The only people that believe we should be in Iraq are people that love "killing and murder"! Not a doubt in my mind that when a war was started on lies then continued to be played through like a bad nightmare, the followers, lackeys and hangers on will fall into place just like the little people they are! They have a "messiah complex"! They look for someone to lead them to their killing and murder! Just like George Bush has lead them to Iraq! George could just as easily lead them to a cliff and everyone would jump in order to please him!
Most, if not all, of these lackeys are bible thumpers, god worshiper wannabes and have warped murderous killing minds! I say this because anyone that loves to watch people die have to be real sick!
It has never ceased to amaze me that the biggest killers in the world are christians, bible packers and preacher wannabes! Billions and Billions of men, women and children have died in the name of god!
Now, in Iraq over a million Iraqis have died. And the christians...George Bush lovers can't live a day without more carnage coming their way!
If there is a heaven and a hell, which I do not believe in at all, each and everyone of you are going to hell! And you know I know it!
Disclaimer: Anyone reading this and believing I am talking about them must have a very guilty conscious!
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| Feb 18 @ 7:28 AM |
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jimbo242
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Hey, after I posted the abvove in a blog reply column, I got this e mail from somebody as a response.
That's right sister boy....and I meant every word.
When a right wing Canandian thinks he has the right to call people that think outside his little box morons and start defending the right for no reason...I will react accordingly....If you don't agree with my take.... post your own thoughts! Oh I forgot...you can only C&P...never an original thought
Same applies to the rest of you radical SOBs....this blog didn't refer to the right wing...it was about human rights and my belief the US is not without fault in Islam's hate. Right or wrong as long as we condone Israeli violence against Arabs we are part of the problem.
Read this again and notice how defensive the right is....Is that guilt?
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| Feb 18 @ 10:34 AM |
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MusicMonster
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On behalf of the United States your welcome Nuri Al Maliki.
So why after all these years, are we still propping them up? And why will we apparently still be doing that for the next 100 years? Even though even Bush says that's way overkill?
I've never known of an American Military person to have required 5 years of training, and still be completely unable to do the job. They had an army once, they whipped Iran once. Why can't they seem to get one together again? Couldn't be because we'll hang in there and do it for them for free, could it? 
-MM 
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| Feb 18 @ 7:12 PM |
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Bj864
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I suppose the Prime Minister didnt bother to check the facts either and he lives there? Will you prove what you say?...
This link is from the Brookings institute, which gets it statistics from the government. If you scroll down to page 17, you will see how many foreign fighters are estimated to be over there.
http://www.brookings.edu/fp/saban/iraq/index20060130.pdf
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