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John McCain: "I Did Not Have Sex With That Woman!"
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MusicMonster
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He says no way!! But it looks a little shaky..And he looks pretty nervous..
McCain held a press conference this morning to address these allegations, and denied everything, including having an affair with lobbyist Vicki Iseman, 31 years his junior, but it seemed a little unclear and mysterious at best. He also changed his story a few times during the press conference. Clearly he is deeply troubled about this at the very least.
Seems though that he was, at one time at least, in the habit of both doing favors for lobbyists and accepting favors from them, even though he says he is very against such activities. That's part of the "Straight Talk Express". He said that many many lobbyists are his close friends, and he went on corporate jet trips with not just Ms Iseman, but many others as well. Yet he's never been one to cater to lobbyists.. Hmmmm...  She is kind of attractive. But he isn't, and he is 31 years her senior! 
The NY Times suggests he may have had an affair with this lobbyist, and may have done her some extra favors. It seems unlikely to me, all things considered, but then these things certainly do go on in Peyton Place. (er I mean Washington D.C,) In any case several former advisors reportedly warned him to discontinue what they assumed was a romantic affiar because it would be bad for him and for the party.
Somebody is lying Big Time!! You be the judge..
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New York Times
By JIM RUTENBERG, MARILYN W. THOMPSON, DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK and STEPHEN LABATON
Published: February 21, 2008
WASHINGTON — Early in Senator John McCain’s first run for the White House eight years ago, waves of anxiety swept through his small circle of advisers.
A female lobbyist had been turning up with him at fund-raisers, visiting his offices and accompanying him on a client’s corporate jet. Convinced the relationship had become romantic, some of his top advisers intervened to protect the candidate from himself — instructing staff members to block the woman’s access, privately warning her away and repeatedly confronting him, several people involved in the campaign said on the condition of anonymity.
When news organizations reported that Mr. McCain had written letters to government regulators on behalf of the lobbyist’s client, the former campaign associates said, some aides feared for a time that attention would fall on her involvement.
Mr. McCain, 71, and the lobbyist, Vicki Iseman, 40, both say they never had a romantic relationship. But to his advisers, even the appearance of a close bond with a lobbyist whose clients often had business before the Senate committee Mr. McCain led threatened the story of redemption and rectitude that defined his political identity.
It had been just a decade since an official favor for a friend with regulatory problems had nearly ended Mr. McCain’s political career by ensnaring him in the Keating Five scandal. In the years that followed, he reinvented himself as the scourge of special interests, a crusader for stricter ethics and campaign finance rules, a man of honor chastened by a brush with shame.
Full Story at the NY Times + Pictures
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| Feb 21 @ 10:31 AM |
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jamminjerry
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 being a conspiracy theorist, i'm quite sure that McCain is simply a sacrificial lamb. there are many other "good old boys" on that team that deserve being offered the chance at being president. i guess that the relationship(s) Mac has with big business would be the best indicator. at the moment, big business is oil. with the Techs coming in a close 2nd. what are his ties with either of these? are they extensive enuff to consider him as a true hardcore Republican? we be jammin 
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| Feb 21 @ 10:34 AM |
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Jankia
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He also changed his story a few times during the press conference Heres the true story...
John McCain on Thursday criticized a New York Times story alleging a questionable relationship with a female telecommunications lobbyist, saying it's "not true" and that he was "very disappointed" the newspaper relied on anonymous sources.
"I'm proud of my record of service to this country," McCain said in a news conference in Toledo.
McCain said he did not know that aides had told lobbyist Vicki Iseman to stay away from him during his first run for the presidency in 2000.
He said no lobbyist ever influenced his decisions as chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee.
"I have many friends who represent various interests," McCain said.
McCain also said he never met with Iseman, 40, or had a romantic relationship with her.
He said the two were "friends" and that he'd "seen her on occasions at receptions and fundraisers and appearances before the committee" but added that he has many friends in Washington.
He said he last saw Iseman several months ago when he "ran into her at some event."
The newspaper reported on its website Wednesday night that John Weaver, a close confidant of McCain's who left his current campaign last year, met with Iseman at Union Station in Washington, D.C., and urged her to stay away from him.
The story said Iseman was telling people she had special access to McCain as a lobbyist for the firm of Alcalde & Fay based in Arlington, Va., and that aides were worried about what affect that would have on McCain's campaign.
McCain said Thursday he did not know anything about Weaver's conversation with Iseman.
"He's a friend of mine and remains a friend of mine," McCain said.
McCain said he's had a couple of recent conversations with Weaver when "he called to congratulate me" on the current campaign.
"I said thanks, John, I look forward to seeing you,'" McCain said.
The newspaper story also said that McCain flew on Lowell W. "Bud" Paxson's corporate jet to appear at campaign events and received $200,000 in campaign donations from Paxson.
Iseman lobbied for Paxson, the former head of Paxson Communications.
McCain defended the trip, saying that at the time that was "accepted practice" and since then "the rule have been changed, something I supported."
The Times article also brought up letters McCain had written to the FCC urging the agency to vote on the controversial sale of a Pittsburgh television station to Paxson.
McCain said the letter was not telling the FCC "how to make a decision," but rather urging it to "move forward and make a decision."
McCain has made a reputation working 30 years in the Senate criticizing lobbyists' influence in Washington and asserting that he's never done any favors for lobbyists or special interest groups.
"Something like this is always distracting and very disappointing," McCain said when asked whether this would detract from his campaign. "I hope we can put to rest the whole situation but I would imagine it does distract and it keeps me from talking about the big issues and the not so big issues."
McCain said he has a "long record" and he's "confident my record will be reviewed."
During the press conference with reporters McCain at first said he had not spoken directly with anyone at the newspaper regarding the story, which he knew had been in the preparation stages for months.
He said the newspaper submitted questions and "we have answered them fully and exhaustively and unfortunately many of those were not included" in the story.
Yet later on in the press conference McCain corrected himself and apologized, saying he did have "one conversation" with Bill Keller, editor of the Times.
"I called him and asked him basically what was happening and we hoped that we could bring this to closure," McCain said. "I was not trying to dissuade him from doing the story."
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| Feb 21 @ 10:36 AM |
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nah12
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but i thought someones personal sexual relations was not a problem since that was the case when Slick WIllie did it......lets see who screams the loudest now... 
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| Feb 21 @ 10:37 AM |
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jimbo242
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He should have said, "I didn't inhale that woman!"
Is another Boy Scout biting the dust?
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| Feb 21 @ 10:39 AM |
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kjac
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So it's only a problem if Billy did it?
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| Feb 21 @ 10:41 AM |
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nah12
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not what i said reread it sweetie........
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| Feb 21 @ 10:43 AM |
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kjac
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Myself, I could care less who is screwing who. But if the same people who bitched about Clinton aren't complaining about McCain, then they're hypocrites.
And Newt too by the way.
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| Feb 21 @ 10:44 AM |
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iam7545
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McCain set them up. This was a Rovian ploy. Simply magnificent.
The NYT just did what McCain could not do on his own. They got the entire Republican Party on his side. Anyone that works with McCain in the Senate are coming to his side! Even the liberal media are coming to his side!
His aw shucks attitude at the presser was proof. Did he look angry? Did he resemble the angry man that he is supposed to be.
Marvelous - simply marvelous! The man is a genius.
Oh - to observe a true warrior!
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| Feb 21 @ 10:47 AM |
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jimbo242
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His aw shucks attitude at the presser was proof. Did he look angry? Did he resemble the angry man that he is supposed to be.
Aren't mood altering drugs wonderful?
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| Feb 21 @ 10:48 AM |
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kjac
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Screwing a lobbyist was a stroke of genius? Wow, now that's spin!
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| Feb 21 @ 10:51 AM |
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Gallows_Humor
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so..republican loyalty can be garnered by someone planting a false sex story.....very interesting... 
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| Feb 21 @ 10:52 AM |
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jimbo242
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Screwing a lobbyist was a stroke of genius? Wow, now that's spin!
I'm with you....so if Clinton would have confined his sexual romps to lobbyists, the right would proclaim him King.....for life.
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| Feb 21 @ 10:53 AM |
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iam7545
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Since most of you cannot read and comprehend the English language all at the same time - how about showing us where the NYT article says that he screwed her?
Did anyone read the article or did you look at the pictures?
So there were aids that worked for McCain that were convinced? WTF does that mean? Did they have three way sex with them? Did McCain make vids? The woman denies a relationship as does McCain.
How does this look like Clintons infidelity? He had a dozen women say that he had sex with them and some said that he forced them to have sex with them.
Pulease.
Again we have the blind leading the blinder right down the path to the land of dumb and dumber.
This story will go nowhere. There is no possible proof as the NYT is hanging its hat on second hand info. Unless the woman confesses or they produce pictures it cannot be proved. McCain looks like a victim and his credibility has been galvanized.
So he just killed two birds with one stone. He neutralized the NYT early in the game and got the Conservatives on his side.
GENIUS - I wonder if Rove did this.
[Edited on 2/21/2008 10:57 AM]
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| Feb 21 @ 10:54 AM |
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willsmalto
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screw a lobbyist, take money from lobbyists, a lobbyist is def. going to be his running mate ....there is problem in the air, america!
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| Feb 21 @ 10:55 AM |
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kjac
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Careful iam, those kind of personal attacks are how you wound up in the corner (timeout) the last time.
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| Feb 21 @ 10:55 AM |
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jimbo242
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Again we have the blind leading the blinder right down the path to the land of dumb and dumber
You might be right...doesn't sex require at least part of a boner and I don't mean mistake....
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| Feb 21 @ 11:04 AM |
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nah12
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 sounds like more need to be in timeout.......and appears some have calmed down the nastiest words they use to use....are they the ones that keep digging to try to provoke others to their level..........
OT: if he did yes it is the same ...one is no better than the other......just as in any relationship cheaters are cheating scum bags period.........so do i need to pull up the thread about slick Willie. For you?........
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| Feb 21 @ 11:07 AM |
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kjac
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I'd love to compare the criticisms of Bill's affair to the applause McCain seems to be getting for his. 
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| Feb 21 @ 11:09 AM |
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MusicMonster
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Here's a little bit more about his previous scandal, referred to as the "Keating Five Scandal" where McCain came within a hair of ending his entire poltical career forever, where some associates went to jail. (Keating for one). And how three other politicians were booted out of government, while McCain was miraculously spared somehow. An angel on his shoulder? Pretty trawdry stuff.. And no doubt causes him some lost sleep nights.
But that doesn't mean he had sex with that woman!! 
New York Times
Published: February 21, 2008
Mr. McCain started his career like many other aspiring politicians, eagerly courting the wealthy and powerful. A Vietnam war hero and Senate liaison for the Navy, he arrived in Arizona in 1980 after his second marriage, to Cindy Hensley, the heiress to a beer fortune there. He quickly started looking for a Congressional district where he could run.
Mr. Keating, a Phoenix financier and real estate developer, became an early sponsor and, soon, a friend. He was a man of great confidence and daring, Mr. McCain recalled in his memoir. People like that appeal to me, he continued. I have sometimes forgotten that wisdom and a strong sense of public responsibility are much more admirable qualities.
During Mr. McCain's four years in the House, Mr. Keating, his family and his business associates contributed heavily to his political campaigns. The banker gave Mr. McCain free rides on his private jet, a violation of Congressional ethics rules (he later said it was an oversight and paid for the trips). They vacationed together in the Bahamas. And in 1986, the year Mr. McCain was elected to the Senate, his wife joined Mr. Keating in investing in an Arizona shopping mall.
Mr. Keating had taken over the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association and used its federally insured deposits to gamble on risky real estate and other investments. He pressed Mr. McCain and other lawmakers to help hold back federal banking regulators.
For years, Mr. McCain complied. At Mr. Keating’s request, he wrote several letters to regulators, introduced legislation and helped secure the nomination of a Keating associate to a banking regulatory board.
By early 1987, though, the thrift was careering toward disaster. Mr. McCain agreed to join several senators, eventually known as the Keating Five, for two private meetings with regulators to urge them to ease up. “Why didn’t I fully grasp the unusual appearance of such a meeting?” Mr. McCain later lamented in his memoir.
When Lincoln went bankrupt in 1989 one of the biggest collapses of the savings and loan crisis, costing taxpayers $3.4 billion the Keating Five became infamous. The scandal sent Mr. Keating to prison and ended the careers of three senators, who were censured in 1991 for intervening. Mr. McCain, who had been a less aggressive advocate for Mr. Keating than the others, was reprimanded only for poor judgment” and was re-elected the next year.
Some people involved think Mr. McCain got off too lightly. William Black, one of the banking regulators the senator met with, argued that Mrs. McCain’s investment with Mr. Keating created an obvious conflict of interest for her husband. (Mr. McCain had said a prenuptial agreement divided the couple’s assets.) He should not be able to “put this behind him,” Mr. Black said. It sullied his integrity.
Mr. McCain has since described the episode as a unique humiliation. If I do not repress the memory, its recollection still provokes a vague but real feeling that I had lost something very important, he wrote in his memoir. I still wince thinking about it.
About the Keating Five and John McCain, almost his permanent career ender!
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Whew!! The plot just thickens and thickens!
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