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Mar 20, 2008 @ 11:51 AM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
kattsmeow


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besides i guess most here were such upstanding perfect teenagers they never did any of the stuff they are blasting the teens that are doing it today HUH......yeah buddy
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Mar 20, 2008 @ 1:37 PM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
lacyvsq


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how about an explanation of why a country like the Netherlands, with all its morally corrupt attitudes (nude sunbathing, open attitudes towards sex, legal gay marriage, legal pot, legal prostitution, freely available birth control and comprehensive sex education instead of telling them to just say no) actually have lower abortion rates, lower levels of drug addiction, better sexual health statistics and even fewer divorces than we have here?

Perhaps it is because the parents are offering more time and security to their children.

Percent of families earning two paychecks:

United States 58%
Japan 33
France 33
Italy 20
Germany 18
Netherlands 16

Average Household Debt

United States $71,500
United Kingdom 35,500
Germany 27,700
France 27,650
Netherlands 5,000
Switzerland 800

or has something to do with poverty...

Children under the poverty level:

United States 22.4%
Canada 15.5
United Kingdom 9.3
Switzerland 7.8
Sweden 5.0
Germany 4.9
Norway 4.8
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/8Comparison.htm
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Mar 20, 2008 @ 1:53 PM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
lacyvsq


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Another interesting set of statistics...

Rape (per 100,000 people):

United States 37.20
Sweden 15.70
Denmark 11.23
Germany 8.60
Norway 7.87
United Kingdom 7.26
Finland 7.20
Japan 1.40
(Netherlands not on this list)
(same report as above)

Statistics on Rape in Teen:

-Teens 16 to 19 were three and one-half times more likely than the general population to be victims of rape, attempted rape or sexual assault. (National Crime Victimization Survey. Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Department of Justice, 1996.)

-According to the Justice Department, one in two rape victims is under age 18; one in six is under age 12. [Child Rape Victims, 1992. U.S. Department of Justice.]

-While 9 out of 10 rape victims are women, men and boys are also victimized by this crime. In 1995, 32,130 males age 12 and older were victims of rape, attempted rape or sexual assault. [National Crime Victimization Survey. Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Department of Justice, 1996.]
http://www.soundvision.com/Info/teens/stat.asp
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Mar 21, 2008 @ 6:58 AM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
SensualGemini


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East: The rates of gonorrhea, chlamydia, HPV and other STDs are 500x greater in the US than in Western Europe.

500 times? ... ...Prove it.

East: According to the statistics from the Guttmacher Institute, the break down by race in terms of pregnancy is not that far off between black teens (101 per 1,000) and white teens (92.4 per 1,000). Where the difference occurs is that white teens are much more likely to have the pregnancy terminated, while black teens do not.

...Nonsense!... Where do you come up with this crap?

...Go back about 5 pages and the stats were pulled from Guttmacher, quoted and with the link:

Black women have the highest teen pregnancy rate (134 per 1,000 women aged 15-19)

...followed by Hispanics (131 per 1,000)

...and non-Hispanic whites (48 per 1,000), which is about the same or lower than most developed countries.

Facts on American Teens' Sexual and Reproductive Health

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Heaven: C'mon Para...how about an explanation of why a country like the Netherlands, with all its morally corrupt attitudes

...Heaven, as Lacy pointed out above, the US has many more kids that are poverty stricken, possibly undeducated and wherever prostitution is legal, rapes dramatically drop.

...You scoffed a little before about the cultural differences in the US, as Hispanics and Blacks are almost three times as high for pregnancy as Whites (above). If not cultural or available contraceptives, then why this disparity?

Most know that if you put this in that hole, pregnancy is possible.

...Also, it is not culturally responsible to become pregnant in the Netherlands, as that damn certain slows down the freedoms allowed. I might question the abortion rate, as one can go to several countries in a short amount of time in Europe and obtain whatever they want. There is also the possibility that like cities in the states that do not report crime, to make their cities sound better.

...Yet, about 5 pages back, higher pregnancy rates in the US, were attributed to lack of available birth control and the education to use same:

The primary reasons why U.S. teenagers have the highest rates of pregnancy, childbearing and abortion among developed countries is less overall contraceptive use and less use of the pill or other long-acting reversible hormonal methods, which have the highest use-effectiveness rates.

The primary reasons why U.S. teenagers have the highest rates of pregnancy

...My oldest son is now flying for NATO and lives in the Netherlands when not flying. I will ask him what the deal is today...

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Mar 21, 2008 @ 9:57 AM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
Heaveninawildflower


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...You scoffed a little before about the cultural differences in the US, as Hispanics and Blacks are almost three times as high for pregnancy as Whites (above). If not cultural or available contraceptives, then why this disparity?

My intent wasn't to scoff, merely to point out that this is one country, and breaking down statistics to the component races involved didn't change them. Are we using different approaches for those components or are we expecting the same things to work across the board?

Most know that if you put this in that hole, pregnancy is possible.
You'd be amazed at what kids believe if not told otherwise...one girl I talked to believed that she could only get pregnant DURING her period.

...Also, it is not culturally responsible to become pregnant in the Netherlands, as that damn certain slows down the freedoms allowed. I might question the abortion rate, as one can go to several countries in a short amount of time in Europe and obtain whatever they want. There is also the possibility that like cities in the states that do not report crime, to make their cities sound better.
I dunno, but most women I know try to do things as quickly, cheaply and comfortably as possible. NL has public health care as well as the same rules about abortion as we have - if they can have an abortion performed for free at home, do you really think they'll go to another country where they'd have to pay for it?
I think your son may indeed have some insights, and I'd be curious to hear them.
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Mar 21, 2008 @ 11:24 AM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
SensualGemini


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Heaven: My intent wasn't to scoff, merely to point out that this is one country, and breaking down statistics to the component races involved didn't change them. Are we using different approaches for those components or are we expecting the same things to work across the board?

...Why would we expect the same things to work across the board? Nothing else has thus far and it is alright to break down statistics for all other social issues, including education, affirmative action, welfare issues, etc., whereas pregnancy rates and STD's for teens is no different.

...It allows us to more focus on the core of the issue, that may or may not correlate across cultural beliefs and practices.

...Maybe this will partially explain why they don't claim as many abortions in the Netherlands and basically backs up the prior post that contraceptives are more available, as well as accepted:

Why has the Netherlands always had such a low abortion rate?

The Netherlands has always had a relatively low abortion rate, and in this respect little has changed since abortion became legal. The reason is closely related to the widespread use of contraceptives in this country.

Family planning was taboo in Dutch society up to the 1960s. It was forbidden to sell or advertise contraceptives. There was virtually no public debate on the subject, and the medical establishment chose to remain silent on the issue.

The Netherlands had one of the highest birth rates in Europe rightup to 1965.This situation changed dramatically in the decade from 1965 to 1975, reflecting a fundamental shift in the social, cultural and political climate.

With the availability of new forms of contraception,sexual and moral values changed and family planning gained increasing acceptance. In 1961, the Netherlands started producing the pill, which gradually became extremely popular. There was also agrowing demand for sterilisation.

The question is, why did family planning become so popular in the Netherlands and why was there hardly any increase in the abortion rate?

Four factors played a role.Firstly, the social and political debate on family planning was prompted by concerns about the prospect of overpopulation. The Netherlands was the most densely populated country in the world inthe 1960s, and the future prognoses were alarming. This factor as a consideration in family planning was unique to the Netherlands.

At the same time, the influential Dutch Association for Sexual Reform (NVSH) launched a vigorous campaign for new family planning legislation. By the mid-1960s the NVSH had over 200,000 members and a staff of 100 at its headquarters in The Hague. Its aims were to persuade the government to introduce sex education in schools, and to exercise influence on the media and establish family planning centres throughout the country.

The women's movement, too, conducted a major family planning campaign. Towards the end of the 1960s, the Netherlands Society of General Medical Practitioners recognised family planning as an important aspect of general practice and almost all general practitioners began to offer their patients this service.

This step had far-reaching implications. It meant that people could discuss birth control in confidence and in a relatively familiar context, whereas in most countries counselling services were provided by gynaecologists or special clinics.

Within a short space of time, birth control had become an integral part of health care.

Another reason for the sudden popularity of family planning lies in the changes in funding which took place in 1971. The government lifted the statutory prohibition on contraceptives in 1969 and in 1971 made them available under the national health insurance scheme. Two years later, sterilisation was also covered by national health insurance. In addition, small family planning clinics run by the Rutger Foundation became eligible for government grants. Not only did these measures constitute an incentive to practise birth control, they were also a factor in making contraception morally acceptable.

Family planning became a public issue instead of an individual problem. Hence, the use of contraceptives had gained widespread acceptance in the Netherlands not only by the time abortion was legalised, but even before it became a political issue. Thanks to demographic, social, psychological and financial factors, nearly all obstacles to birth control had been removed. This is one of the main reasons for the low abortion rate.

In a short space of time, the Netherlands was transformed from a country with a high birth rate by European standards into one in which birth control was common practice

Q&A Abortion In the Netherlands ... from the Dutch Ministry
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Mar 21, 2008 @ 12:10 PM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
lacyvsq


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The Guttmacher Institute has a goal of pushing contraceptives, HPV vaccine and possibly HIV tests and treatments/medications, so it's conclusions will be biased to that purpose. (Check out their 'About Us' pages) I think it is interesting that they report:
Teenagers in the United States are more likely to have sexual intercourse before age 15 and have shorter and more sporadic sexual relationships than teenagers in Canada, France, Great Britain and Sweden. As a result, they are more likely to have more than one partner in a given year.

Then they go on to talk about the need for contraception...while totally ignoring the questions of why our teens are more likely to have sex before age 15 and have shorter and more sporadic sexual relationships. Of course the answers to those questions might not be a pill or a shot in the arm... The answers to those questions might not mean greater profits for the corporations funding the study. The answers to those questions might not provide political or econimic benefits to government or industry...
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Mar 21, 2008 @ 4:04 PM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
Heaveninawildflower


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Then they go on to talk about the need for contraception...while totally ignoring the questions of why our teens are more likely to have sex before age 15 and have shorter and more sporadic sexual relationships. Of course the answers to those questions might not be a pill or a shot in the arm... The answers to those questions might not mean greater profits for the corporations funding the study. The answers to those questions might not provide political or economic benefits to government or industry...

Unfortunately, the answer to those questions is probably that ALL parents need to provide loving support to their kids. Maybe we can pass a law, that'll do it (sorry, I'm a little jaded about laws). I think I've mentioned before that I fostered about a dozen kids in addition to my own, for varying lengths of time. Let me explain a little about that - these weren't 'official' foster children, where I was receiving a stipend from the government. They were all 16 or over at the time and pretty much off the radar. Their parents didn't want to be bothered and my sons brought them home, and they made a home with us for as long as they needed it - the shortest period was about 3 months, the longest was 12 years. These weren't underprivileged kids - they came from a white middle class neighborhood, and had no clue what to do...in fact, neither did I, except to take them in and build an extended family with them. I know other women who've encountered the same thing and dealt with it as I did...and I'd bet the ranch that a lot of the kids who are contributing to these statistics are from the same sort of background. I guess we 'concerned mothers' built our own grass roots safety net program - maybe more people can do the same? I don't mean food and shelter alone, but actual parenting, including discipline when needed, but more importantly talking to them, and most importantly, listening to them.

Saying that this is how things should be - close families, values and loving encouragement from parents - doesn't help these throwaway kids, nor will it help THEIRS when they either have or father babies out of wedlock to perpetuate the cycle...they need families to help show them what a family is, or should be.
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Mar 21, 2008 @ 4:45 PM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
lacyvsq


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I think you hit the nail on the head there. I was involved for a time with a tutoring program for 2nd and 3rd graders and the difference in the kids after a few weeks of one-on-one interaction and looking them in the eyes and listening to them was amazing. Our nations children are not being told/shown/convinced that they are loved and worthy/valuable. Touching is taboo. There are few ways that love is modeled/taught other than "making love". (My opinion and experience -- I have not done or seen studies.)

And certainly no law is going to make that happen.
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Mar 22, 2008 @ 9:48 PM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
Paralegal_at_Law


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Teenagers in the United States are more likely to have sexual intercourse before age 15 and have shorter and more sporadic sexual relationships than teenagers in Canada, France, Great Britain and Sweden. As a result, they are more likely to have more than one partner in a given year.

Then they go on to talk about the need for contraception...while totally ignoring the questions of why our teens are more likely to have sex before age 15 and have shorter and more sporadic sexual relationships. Of course the answers to those questions might not be a pill or a shot in the arm.

the rest of Western Europe is doing far better in that regard than we are and we lead the developed world in teen pregnancy and abortion and STDs. Not a good thing to be a world leader.

This is a natural consequence of the Liberals sponsoring the sex revolution and the drug culture bringing promiscuous sex into the teenage experience, together with abortion on demand, as a cultural war waged against the American conservative family values.

Now the Liberals are bemoaning being the leader in teen pregnancy, abortion, and STD's in the developed world. These repurcussions appear to be a forseeable consequence of Roe v. Wade, the sex revolution, free love, the drug culture, and the "everyone is doing it" and "call off your old tired morals" mentality that Liberals and Leftists so adamantly fostered.

So when the obvious answer is presented, to deflect its moral impact cloudy minds retort about Dutch promiscuity and how Europeans have a healthier attitude that does not brand sexually active teen girls as "sluts."

So in addition to my earlier comments starting "This is a natural consequence of the Liberals. . . " as is quoted above, I would like to add that another huge impact on teen sexuality was the trend to no longer regularly attend church and also the advent of state "no fault divorce" laws which were part of the Liberal legislative agenda and fostered divorces by repealing "grounds for divorce" which "greased the rails" on the slippery slope of "if it doesn't work out you can always get a divorce" mindset. The accelerated divorce rate created a lot of single parent homes where it is impossible for Mom to be both housekeeping nurturer and also provide the necessry masculine mentoring teen guidance and discipline (it is true that in many cases, Moms tend to use the softer approach and just say "Now, Dear, you know you shouldn't. . . and even resent Dad's more disciplinary approach) which tends to disprove the cultural canard that a single parent can be both Mom and Dad to the kids, which set of facts created the "latchkey kids" of unsupervised youngsters who grow up too soon and too fast and end up being sexually active too soon and too much. Then add in the Liberals well-intentioned "lets pass out condoms like candy to Middle School pupils" which applies more torque and pressure, while Hollywood, TV, and the magazine industry glamorize SEX in the form of movie nudity, soap opera sexuality, and publications such as Cosmopolitan Magazine which always feature articles such as "A Guide to Oral Satisfaction" and "Is Sleeping with Two Boyfriends Cheating?" with an Editorial mantra that Sex is not only OK, it is good, and good sex is more than OK. All of this input, fills the young impressionable skulls full of mush and molds and inclines the youth to do whatever feels good. This is also the time when young ladies discover how much they like male attention, which triples when they show their budding cleavage and start to tease boys at school.

Now teen guys have never needed much encouragement to discover the contents of a Size 34-A cup, or larger bra or from 7th grade on, be the first guy each week to bring a stinky finger to school. Puberty is in full bloom and the testosterone surge keeps the Vasoline industry paying extra dividends to its stockholders. Guys are also influenced by Hollywood, TV, and magazines with nudity being the goal to Nirvana. Then hormones replace precision thinking and he says to hre, of course I will pull out in time. . .

So the family Pastor is more often than not not part of the scene, Dad is out of the picture, the single Moms are banging their boyfriends and providing empty houses from 3:00 when school is out until 6pm when she gets home from work.

You can bet your bottom dollar that conservative family values did not spawn the America sexual revolution. So to restate the obvious:

This is a natural consequence of the Liberals sponsoring the sex revolution and the drug culture bringing promiscuous sex into the teenage experience, together with abortion on demand, as a cultural war waged against the American conservative family values. Now the Liberals are bemoaning being the leader in teen pregnancy, abortion, and STD's in the developed world.


[Edited on 3/22/2008 10:59 PM]
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Mar 22, 2008 @ 10:04 PM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
Nightowl001


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Hey, Para. This is the 21st Century. Couldn't you find any more cliched stereotypes to drag out? You missed blaming it on Women's Lib.

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Mar 22, 2008 @ 10:12 PM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
SweetNapaGuy


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So the neo-con answer is: willful ignorance and creating scapegoats.

Why am I not surprised? After all, that's their basic policy with regards to pretty much anything, isn't it?

How about a radical solution: Deal with reality, and propose something that is workable for once? Not the usual "this will work (if the world worked the way I WANT it to work, instead of how it REALLY works)" rediculous (sic) proposals

[Edited on 3/22/2008 10:19 PM]
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Mar 22, 2008 @ 11:00 PM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
Paralegal_at_Law


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You missed blaming it on Women's Lib.

As if "Women's Lib" is not a constituent bloc of Liberal special interests.

Deal with reality, and propose something that is workable for once? Not the usual "this will work

What works is a home where Mom and Dad are in a committed loving marriage providing parental supervision and wholesome guidance to their kids, the family attending church regularly and also providing family worship in the home, daily devotionals with Mom, Dad, brothers, and sisters at the family altar which is maintained in the home, evening scripture readings as a family ritual and parental participation in evening prayer in each youngster's bedroom, group dating such as muilti-parent church and also community group chaperoned outings for organized teen activities, No dating in cars for any reason whatsoever, until graduation,

An extended family environment where the Grandparents, Aunts, and Uncles are frequent weekly visitors where the cousins can interact during their development years on days where kids are advised that on family visitation days, such as each recurring Thursday, which if fixed and an ongoing reliable occurrence so it is very much NOT OK ,to even ask to be excused to do alernate activities with friends instead of being with the family and participating.

The placement of a framed sign on the inside of each child's bedroom door that says "Remember Who You Are and What You Represent" and also a framed sign on the inside of the living room door that says "Return With Honor," .

Membership in each of the following and participation in all activities: the YMCA, Civil Air Patrol, Sea Scouts, Young Marines, Little League sports leagues, in addition to the church youth groups. Also it is a good idea to have each child learn to play one brass instrument, one stringed instrument, and piano with one hour per day dedicated to solo music practice, where by the time he or she graduates from high school they are proficient in all three musical instruments.

For the young women, attendance and participation in a Temple Virgins church youth group, the members prominantly participate in each weeks church worship services, as a group where the post-puberty young women have the benefit of peer group support on an ongoing bais and also Mentoring Matrons who each have a half a dozen teen girls to visit weekly in between the teen group meetings, where special individual guidance is offered together with an entry date and annual virginity certification licensed GYN examination performed, shunning of peers whose lifestyle is repugnant to wholesome development, and two parent interviewing of each and every proposed dating partner prior to the first date and again recurring in each succeeding month. If any of this regimen fails, there is always the choice of being fitted for a chastity belt, or in the alternative, the parents can place thier tending to be wayward child in the church-owned remote retreat located in one of the Aleutian Islands where there is no telephones, no television, no towns, other than the buildings and gardens of the church sanctuary compound, or hypnotherapy for teens of both genders.

If none of these efforts work, the parents can always hire as their child's personal companion, a former US Marines Drill Sergeant to awaken the little darlings in thier rooms by picking them up by their face out of their bunks at "5am reveile" and prior to physical training morning exercises, lovingly and throughly explaining the benefits of keeping "Sergeant Buddy" happy with their life's progress and certainly not disappointed in his expectations for their ongoing social development, with such tasks as painting the family home, yard work and gardening, and a whole passle of family chores being assigned to each youngster by Sergeant Buddy, whenever special individual attention is required to keep each child on track.

If none of the above seems to work, and the kids remain defiant and street hooligans, then either silver bullet or stake through the heart remains the universal ultimate remedy.

PS: I predict social progressives will recoil in horror at the prospect that any of this might actually be a regimen in any family's home. Those would be the parents of the kids who are more likely to have sexual intercourse before age 15 and have shorter and more sporadic sexual relationships than teenagers in Canada, France, Great Britain and Sweden. As a result, they are more likely to have more than one partner in a given year. establishing ongoing proof that the lack of discipline and unsupervised model of child raising is also horrific in its end results.

For instance, we can see the end result from my chronic detractors who grew up and DID NOT get enough of their richly deserved spankings when their antisocial personalities were being skewed far to the political left which has regrettably stagnated their social development and warped their sense of social responsibility with respect to a due regard for the family unit and the effect of being actively engaged in a meaningful spiritual home (one that DOES NOT preach hate like the one where Senator Obama has for 20 years exposing his kids to weekly social cesspool orientation.)

Tag, you are now "it." Liberals. Now its your turn to voice your blackwhite viewpoints against the oldthinkers, or engage in two minutes of hate

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Mar 23, 2008 @ 12:01 AM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
Paralegal_at_Law


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blackwhite- The ability to accept whatever "truth" the party puts out, no matter how absurd it may be. Orwell described it as "...loyal willingness to say black is white when party discipline demands this. It also means the ability to believe that black is white, and more, to know black is white, and forget that one has ever believed the contrary."

oldthink - Holding on to old ideas and patterns of thought not consistent with current government policy (Ingsoc). Maintaining a belief that is no longer acceptable, but was normal just a few years prior.

two minute hate - Daily telescreen specials in which various elements of crimethink were packaged into a parade of horrible images and sounds, at which, the viewers were expected to boo, hiss, curse. and release any negative emotions upon.

Newspeak - The official language of Oceania. Newspeak is "politically correct" speech taken to its maximum extent. Newspeak is based on standard English, but all words describing "unorthodox" political ideas have been removed. In addition, there was an attempt to remove the overall number of words in general, to limit the range of ideas that could be expressed.

Note: in 1984, the government was Socialist Authoritarianism.


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Mar 23, 2008 @ 12:22 AM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
Heaveninawildflower


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Sorry, there was absolutely no way I was gonna wade through all of that. I'm trying to figure out what world our Utopian paralegal is living in, where the 'fathers have a more disciplinary' approach than the mothers, who are 'nicer' about it. Moms do most of the disciplining in the families I know - 'wait till your father comes home' was more a joke than anything else. It certainly was in my house growing up back in the pre-liberal days - I grew up in the Eisenhower era, in a two-parent republican household, but dad was usually the one who got me off the hook when I rebelled.

And by the way, that Republican 50's era was exactly what DID spawn the sexual revolution that flowered in the 60's. In case you didn't realize it, most things are like pressure cookers - the more you vent and allow release of that pressure, the less it builds up. Repress it, and you have an explosion..

By the way, if someone had even HINTED at making me join a 'temple virgins' group, I'd probably have ended up being another of those runaway street kids.

In the Netherlands, less divorce, fewer abortions, fewer teenage pregnancies and fewer drug addicts...and somehow this is painted as a bad thing...amazing.
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Mar 23, 2008 @ 12:31 AM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
Paralegal_at_Law


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if someone had even HINTED at making me join a 'temple virgins' group, I'd probably have ended up being another of those runaway street kids.

It is not unusual for teens to run away from home. However, most runaways very soon discover how nice a warm bed is and regular meals are and return home within 12-36 hours of being "out there."

So, if you would resist participating in the Temple Virgins, at what teen age did you convert from virginity to being sexually active?

FYI: I was 18.

[Edited on 3/23/2008 12:32 AM]
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Mar 23, 2008 @ 12:32 AM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
SweetNapaGuy


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What works is a home where Mom and Dad are in a committed loving marriage providing parental supervision and wholesome guidance to their kids

Plenty of little Betsys and Vickies "went to live with relatives" back in the 50s.

But I've come to realize one thing: You ARE a precise thinker. Of course, the fact that "precision" is a different measure than "accuracy" might not leave you happy... You might want to work on your accuracy. (Precision is a measure of repeatability: you've repeatably been proven wrong, so your precision is high. Accuracy is a measure of correctness: you've been proven wrong on a consistent basis, so your accuracy is low.)

You've denied statistics. You've denied physics. You've denied human psychology. You've denied American history. You've denied international politics. The only basis for the majority of your proposals is "this is the way I want things to be, so it must be true." That might be correct under the Aristotelian science (i.e. apply logic to reason out what the laws of physics must be, and don't bother running any experiments), but that was rejected hundreds of years ago and replaced with the Scientific Method.

Try to keep up. You're not only wrong, you're an anachronism. Please join the 21st century. Or at least, the 20th...
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Mar 23, 2008 @ 12:34 AM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
Paralegal_at_Law


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You're not only wrong, you're an anachronism. Please join the 21st century. Or at least, the 20th...

This opinion from someone whose personal portrait strangely resembles a Hippo's A$$?

In the Netherlands, less divorce, fewer abortions, fewer teenage pregnancies and fewer drug addicts..

Also, less people.

[Edited on 3/23/2008 12:37 AM]
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Mar 23, 2008 @ 12:36 AM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
SweetNapaGuy


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I was trying to find something that looked better than your portrait. It was a long search, but I think I succeeded.



And yet another example of precision-but-no-accuracy. It's a rhino, not a hippo. I do have a picture of some hippos, but they currently aren't my main picture.
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Mar 23, 2008 @ 12:38 AM New Study.......1 in 4 teenage girls has an STD.    
Paralegal_at_Law


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It's a rhino, not a hippo

Proof please. Did you lift the tail and look closely?
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