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Gentlegiant127
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| Mar 18 @ 11:57 AM |
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yashaenka
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Whose fault is the drug trade? We create the demand and we do not secure our borders and allow the employers to continue to hire illegals. We do not enforce visa overstays and as yet do not have a system at our borders that tells us when someone leaves.
We have had a war on drugs since the Johnson era that has failed miserably, why? You cannot stem the drugs and have a wide open border policy. In the end all we can do is to legalize drugs just as we did alcohol to take the profit out of it. Hell cannabis has been with us since biblical times and coke used to be the cure all over the counter cure in the 1800's and the early 1900's. Coke itself was outlawed because it was said to cause black men to rape white women.
Our Federal forest our nothing but havens for growing pot and current popular drugs can be cooked up by any first year chemist. Seal the borders, take the profit out of drugs resulting in a controlled system where a person needs a ID to purchase them and we will end up with the same system like we do with alcohol. Yes it is still being abused by minors but much better than what we have today with drugs.
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| Mar 18 @ 6:06 PM |
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alivenwell351
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huh????.....drugs come through and from Mexico???.....still???....like back in the late 60's???
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| Mar 18 @ 10:48 PM |
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Say_Yes
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Better yet, legalize the drugs, regulate their sale and then tax the proceeds. If you do that, drug related crimes would essentially disappear. In addition, just how much money would we save on drug enforcement efforts, how much pressure would we take off our courts and we could stop putting people in jail for selling the crap.
Prohibition did not work in the 1920's and it doesn't work today.
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| Mar 18 @ 10:52 PM |
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burnslikethesun
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Better yet, legalize the drugs, regulate their sale and then tax the proceeds. If you do that, drug related crimes would essentially disappear. In addition, just how much money would we save on drug enforcement efforts, how much pressure would we take off our courts and we could stop putting people in jail for selling the crap.
Prohibition did not work in the 1920's and it doesn't work today.
I couldnt say it more logically myself. 
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| Mar 19 @ 4:42 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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Better yet, legalize the drugs, regulate their sale and then tax the proceeds. If you do that, drug related crimes would essentially disappear.
The Chinese utilized a differing method to curtail the 70% opium drug abuse problem they used to have. Users were paraded through town wearing a dunce hat and then were taken to a field and shot in the back of the head.
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| Mar 23 @ 8:45 AM |
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Gentlegiant127
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The embattled city of Palomas, Mexico, is now literally lawless.
The Luna County Sheriff's Office and U.S. Border Patrol reported Thursday that the Palomas Chief of Police came to the Columbus Port of Entry late Tuesday night, requesting political asylum.
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| Mar 27 @ 1:44 PM |
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Gentlegiant127
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Smugglers' deadly cargo: Cop-killing guns
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| Mar 29 @ 10:01 AM |
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Gentlegiant127
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More than 2,000 Mexican soldiers are arriving to Juárez and Palomas to fight drug traffickers waging a war in the streets of those cities
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| Mar 29 @ 10:11 AM |
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yashaenka
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Just because this is happening in Mexico does not mean the entire drug trade via Mexico is by Mexican citizens. Most of the meth labs that were found had Chinese and other sources and the Mexicans involved were peon employees.
No the problem in Mexico is not Mexican alone it is really the focal point for the world wide drug trade simply using Mexico as the gateway for smuggling.
This is a no win situation for Mexico and the US unless the profit is removed from the drug trade it will continue.
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| Mar 29 @ 12:47 PM |
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MotownManiax
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I’m in favor or legalizing pot and “strictly” regulating its use, but not anything harder. Coke, Crack, Ecstasy, Heroin?….where would it end? Whenever new, more exotic and dangerous designer drugs hit the market, just legalize them and thereby make a statement that any and all drugs are OK and should be tolerated in our society? I don’t think any of the proponents of legalized drugs have any idea just where this kind of logic will lead us. Should we get to the point that “nothing” is taboo in our society?
As far as confronting Mexico, yas is right, we can’t (and shouldn’t) run that country, but we CAN secure our own borders and do the necessary things to end the illegal immigration problem once and for all. This won’t end the drug pipeline, but it would greatly diminish it.
The fundamental problem is one of perception and societal pressure that should be overwhelmingly against drug abuse. Drug abuse is not tolerated in our workplaces, schools, and critical businesses like hospitals and transportation, for obvious reasons, and this revulsion should be communicated just as forcefully in the rest of our society. It seems that every year that goes by our drug culture gets more and more acceptable. To the morons that believe drugs are “fun”, harmless, and without consequences, they need to grow up and take some responsibility for driving the supply and demand that ruins lives and corrupts societies—which means not only our own but many others. There is nothing romantic about drugs, and there’s nothing that says you have a God-given right to abuse yourself when it means others will have to pay an equal or worse price.
If people hold up alcohol as the double standard and poster child in the argument that “all” drugs should be legal, I don’t accept it. There is no way you can compare crack or crystal meth or heroin with alcohol.
Drug abuse is soul shattering, life ruining, and society deadening, and should not be tolerated—period.
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| Mar 29 @ 1:13 PM |
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Gentlegiant127
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Right on, Mo. 
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| Mar 29 @ 1:54 PM |
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yashaenka
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Yes Mo, I agree. Cocaine is not the average poor man choice of drugs because of cost. Where pot applies to society at large. But even it cost more than Meth or crack.
All the drugs are addictive if used regularly even though some will say pot is not people can get too dependent on it also.
Sealing the border [as best we can] is also needed for security as a nation. But because of designer drugs we some how need to decrease demand because designer drugs can be done here, as in meth labs.
The failures in education to drive down demand by government were mis directed. That should have been directed at parents and make the parents responsible for their children's actions because every other way has failed.
Drive down demand, seal the border, take as much profit out of drugs as we can would help over time. The Chinese at one time were addicted to heroine on a big scale supplied by the British and the Chinese government was able to stamp out demand to a very large extent because they directed their laws at families not just users.
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| Mar 30 @ 1:40 PM |
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Gentlegiant127
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Drug cartels operate training camps near Texas border just inside Mexico
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| Mar 30 @ 5:48 PM |
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sweetsongs17
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The fundamental problem is one of perception and societal pressure that should be overwhelmingly against drug abuse. Drug abuse is not tolerated in our workplaces, schools, and critical businesses like hospitals and transportation, for obvious reasons, and this revulsion should be communicated just as forcefully in the rest of our society
I couldn't agree with you more,Mo. I think you could also subsitute the words Drug Abuse with many other ills, such as verbal and physical abuse, discrimination, prejudice, pornography in society. Standards and lines should be marked and society should keep a standard and not lower the bar to be tolerant of others behavioirs and choices.
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| Mar 30 @ 5:55 PM |
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sweetsongs17
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The failures in education to drive down demand by government were mis directed. That should have been directed at parents and make the parents responsible for their children's actions because every other way has failed.
Yashaenka, Your point is well made. I could also apply drug abuse education in schools to programs that involve bullyling, sex education, internet safety programs, abstinance programs, ect. The family unit for various reasons has been breaking down and more and more are looking to both the governement and schools to solve situations that parents should be handling.
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| Mar 31 @ 10:12 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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I could also apply drug abuse education in schools to programs that involve bullyling, sex education, internet safety programs, abstinance programs, ect. The family unit for various reasons has been breaking down and more and more are looking to both the governement and schools to solve situations that parents should be handling.
Another example of precision thinking with exactitute tolerances. Very well done.
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| Mar 31 @ 10:24 AM |
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capobeachguy
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exactitute? 
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| Mar 31 @ 4:50 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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exactitute?
Sometimes my brain is working a few words, phrases, or a sentence ahead of my pokey Joe fingers. This is why I do typos, by conjoining exatitude and the next word tolerances into "exactitute" which is [I]ipso facto pigeon Genius speak to blend in just a modicrum of being mortal, which is intentionaly thrown in to keep me on my toes, instead of advancing to pierce the veil and communing at one with the Gods on a continuum.
Or as anyone born in the Chinese Year of the Dragon knows, "Patience, Modesty, and Humility. . . . . are birth defects."
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| Apr 1 @ 9:33 AM |
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Gentlegiant127
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Crimes committed by drug gangs that have become common in Mexico are now crossing the border, police officials say. Phoenix Police Cmdr. Joe Klima notes that 350 kidnappings were recorded in the city last year, a crime he describes as previously nonexistent
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The U.S. placed Mexico under a travel alert last October, and it remains in effect until April 15. Next month, the State Department will reassess and decide whether that alert should be upgraded to a more serious warning to U.S. citizens about travelling to Mexico.
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