| Mar 27, 2008 @ 10:42 AM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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I'm asking everyone who has a drop of Italian blood to please reconsider voting for Barack Obama.
This man sat in the pews of a church with a pastor who for twenty years spewed hate for America, for Jews, for whites in general, but now, it comes out...we've been singled out (how surprising....  )
"Italians Look Down Their Garlic Noses-- Gave Jesus Public Lynching Italian Style"
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This is not to be tolerated. If I had gone to a church with a pastor who said:
"Blacks Look Down Their Fried Chicken Noses", why, it would be all over the media and I'd be out of the race for the presidency that day. I'm sickened, and I'm personally insulted.
I'm disgusted that this is being given a pass. Discrimination against my people has been allowed for too long, with the excuse that it is entertainment or lightly veiled. This is out in the open and extremely blatant, and should not be tolerated. Obama should be ashamed of himself for sitting in the pews of Wright's church.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 10:48 AM |
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willsmalto
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Here we go again!
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 11:02 AM |
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DiamondRain
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Look, this Wright guy is a hateful, despicable racist. There can be no doubt about that.
Anyone who doesn't agree with that is either in complete denial or is a racist themselves.
Is Obama also a racist? I think the answer to that is unclear. At best, Obama's choice to associate so closely with Wright shows Obama's TERRIBLE judgment. And poor judgment is NOT what we need in a president.
The best you can possibly say about Obama is that he is an untrustworthy liar. Expecting us to believe that he has listened to 20 years worth of Wright's speeches, been his close friend and student for all of that time, and still has no idea what the guy stands for is an insult to out intelligence.
It doesn't matter how many different races, nationalities or religions Wright is a racist against. Even one is too many.
And I am afraid that we have had one too many denials from Obama as well to be able to give any credibility to him as a man, and as a potential president of our country.
I don't want ANYONE for president who has gone out of his way to make such a great effort to seek out and build such a long and close association with a blatant hateful racist individual as Wright.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 11:07 AM |
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MotownManiax
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No fear, Wills.....looks like Wright is not hurting Obama as much as some think.... Poll: Jury still out on Obama speech
And he's trying to reconnect....
Obama seeks to quell flap over pastor
Obama offers plan for economic woes
Nobody will know just how bad Wright has hurt Obama until the coming primaries. If Hillary wins even one state she's not expected to, Obama would be in real trouble. Guess we'll all see.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 11:10 AM |
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DiamondRain
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PS ... LGQ did I mention your new picture is EVEN HOTTER?! 
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 11:11 AM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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DR- It's really very inappropriate to comment on a woman's looks in the middle of an intellectual discussion and I wish that you would comment on my pictures or email me in private?
Now let's get back on topic 
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 11:15 AM |
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kattsmeow
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Oh no, he finally said the wrong thing. Want me to get the guys rounded up for ya LGQ? 
Oh and no worries from here, I know who I am voting for.
Unless Al shows up that is. 
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 11:25 AM |
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DiamondRain
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LGQ ... Of course it is inappropriate. It is meant to make you laugh.
OK ...Now back to topic.
VOTE FOR MCCAIN! 
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 11:38 AM |
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Kenn159
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Still sounds like guilt by association, unless you can proof that he hold those beliefs, you have no case.
I know it doesn’t look good, he is his pastor, but you need to deal with absolutes if you want to blame him for the words of another.
To essentially try, convict and then demonize him for what someone he knows said is wrong, pastor or not.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 11:45 AM |
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DiamondRain
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Here is what you are missing.
Would YOU go to a church with a Pastor like that?
Would YOU have a 20 year personal relationship with a man like that, call him your mentor, think of him "like an Uncle," expose your children and family to his racist hateful sermons and ideas?
I'll bet you wouldn't. And neither would the vast majority of other Americans.
You can't chose your family, but you CAN certainly chose your church and your Pastor.
So why should Obama, a sitting US Senator and candidate for president, why should he, who should arguably be held to a HIGHER standard than someone who is not serving the American people in such a position of trust not be expected to AT LEAST be held to the same standard the rest of us hold ourselves to?
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[Edited on 3/27/2008 11:46 AM]
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 11:46 AM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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I don't want a President who is connected to any kind of racial supremacy talk or any kind of hate America talk. And I don't want a President who is connected to a man who hates my people.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 12:29 PM |
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DiamondRain
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This is not the only anti-Italian rant, coming from Obama's church.
Wright's replacement, Otis Moss III, is also a rabid anti-American, anti-white, anti-Italian, anti-Semitic racist.
As a matter of fact, I noticed something Otis Moss III said in yet another anti-Italian/anti-Semitic rant in a sermon that he gave on this past Easter Sunday that I don't think anyone else at all noticed in the media or elsewhere.
Quoting from this peace loving Christian man of God's Easter Sunday sermon:
“The lynching was national news. The RNN, the Roman News Network, was reporting it and NPR, National Publican Radio had it on the radio. The Jerusalem Post and the Palestine Times all wanted exclusives, they searched out the young ministers, showed up unannounced at their houses, tried to talk with their families, called up their friends, wanted to get a quote on how do you feel about the lynching?”
The anti-Italian racism is obvious in this. And so is the anti-Semitic racism.
But what I find amazing is that I have not heard ANYONE else accurately pick up on the phrase "National Publican Radio."
I heard a few TV and radio commentators ponder about that phrase and conclude that it is just some shortened form of saying "Republican."
But if you know anything at all about National Public Radio, you know it is most decidedly NOT Republican oriented.
So that prompted me to look into this further. AND I WAS SHOCKED AT WHAT I FOUND!
According to Merriam Webster's dictionary the word publican means "1 a: a Jewish tax collector for the ancient Romans"!
I have not heard anyone else mention this in the media or anywhere else.
So Moss is bringing Jews and Italians in to blame where they have absolutely nothing to do with the subject at all. CLASSIC RACISM.
So Otis Moss III, the NEW Reverend of Obama's church is following in the footsteps of Obama's best friend and mentor, Jeremiah Wright with his anti-American, anti-white, anti-Semitic and anti-Italian racist hatred.
And all the while Obama seems to know nothing of it and STILL insists on belonging to this racist organization.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 12:41 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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anti-white, anti-Semitic and anti-Italian
Italians are white, therefore we'd kind of be covered in the "anti-white". But I kind of get why you'd single us out, since he did. Just wanted to make it clear. Pet peeve.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 12:49 PM |
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kattsmeow
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 12:50 PM |
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DiamondRain
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Most Jewish people are white. But there is a difference between being anti-white and anti-Semite.
Most Italian people are also white. But there is also a difference between being anti-white and anti-Italian.
Most French people are white, but as far as we have heard, Obama's church has not specifically singled out people of French nationality or heritage for racist treatment.
So I think it is important to be very specific about WHICH groups Obama's church is singling out for their racist propagandizing. And that is what I have done.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 1:08 PM |
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SensualGemini
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...Trinity UCC, openly publishes on their website, what they stand for:
...We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community. http://www.tucc.org/about.htm
...I believe them... including Obama, are racists, with loyalties to Africa.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 1:14 PM |
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DiamondRain
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Unapologetically Christian.
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I think some would beg to differ with respect to them calling themselves Christians.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 1:23 PM |
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yashaenka
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This is a story that has real legs when even Clinton brings it up to divert attention from her experience in Bosnia dodging sniper fire.
If Obama survives the Primaries in the run for the white house this will be brought up by surrogates and the media no matter what McCain wants to do and that simply is to draw a clear distinction and comparison of his presidency to the democratic alternative.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 2:03 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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let me change this around a bit
...We are a congregation which is Unashamedly White and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the White religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are a European people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a White worship service and ministries which address the White Community.
I guess that sounds more racist, though, huh?
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 2:13 PM |
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kattsmeow
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Thats good LGQ. It can be spun in any direction huh?
Now what about the Irish/Welsh/English peoples???
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