| Mar 27, 2008 @ 12:25 PM |
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raykl
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080326/NATION/840186493/1001
There are other links and reports that verify this, if you are so inclined.
So this is another example of George III's idea on how to make it more difficult for terrorists to obtain a US passport- Outsource the making of passports to foreign countries.
Plus, it also helps the US economy by eliminating work for Americans. This is good, but NAFTA is bad?
Democrat or Republican- Does it matter? Politicians are politicians. Whatever works best for them.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 1:17 PM |
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SensualGemini
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...That was a good link raykl!
...Who would have dreamed the leaders of this country would do such BS? It just gets worse.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 1:25 PM |
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DiamondRain
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The best idea I have ever heard for fighting Islamic terrorism is an old one.
Tell them that for every attack on our country we will take out one of their holy sites moving to ever more important sites if they still continue.
If there IS such a thing as a "moderate" Muslim community, they themselves will put a stop to the terrorists among them almost instantaneously.
The idea is not to actually take out Muslim holy sites, the idea is to have the certainty that we WILL act as a deterrent. It worked with the Soviet Union and China. It would work with Muslim terrorism.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 1:32 PM |
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yashaenka
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Question? Yes the State Department is run by the president, but all actions within his various cabinets is the responsibility of Congress in their oversight function.
This is as true for the Airbus decision as it is this one, where is the congress and what have they been doing through the Bush(s) and Clinton Administrations.
Where have they been in all Trade Agreements they blame on the president but is their function to ratify all such agreements. This is not a Republican or Democrat issue, it is simply Congress failing to do their job with respect to checks and balances.
Maybe there to busy playing I gottcha!
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 1:38 PM |
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yashaenka
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It worked with the Soviet Union and China. It would work with Muslim terrorism. The Communist were atheist who drove all religions under ground. The Democracies of the world use trade and economics to weaken the communist block and Regan simply increased spending on the military new state of the art equipment thus making the Russians bankrupt so they folded.
China had Singapore and Hong Kong as surrogates to sample Capitalism and so they liked the trade and open up to the rest of the world.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 1:45 PM |
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DiamondRain
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I was referring to the M.A.D. (mutually assured destruction) policy with respect to the Soviet Union and China.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 2:40 PM |
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raykl
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This is not a Republican or Democrat issue, it is simply Congress failing to do their job with respect to checks and balances.
Yash: I agree with what you are saying concerning Congress.
However, the President is also part of the Checks and Balances procedure.
I would doubt seriously that he knew nothing about this outsourcing and still allowed it to go through.
Where did the idea originate? The answer is not as important as why did the
President
Congress
Head of Terroism
allow this to pass through the system. As the leader of this country, the President is the one who must bear the brunt of criticism (Democrat or Republican).
He has the power of the VETO.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 3:20 PM |
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SensualGemini
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...The GPO, Government Printing Office, the agency responsible for these passports, is an agency of the Legislative branch and not an issue for the Executive branch, unless some law has been broken.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 3:55 PM |
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eastham
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Much of what the GPO does has been outsourced. This is yet another function to be outsourced.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 3:57 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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All such government printing should be out-sourced directly to the prisons only.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 4:24 PM |
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Gentlegiant127
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The best idea I have ever heard for fighting Islamic terrorism is an old one.
Tell them that for every attack on our country we will take out one of their holy sites moving to ever more important sites if they still continue.
If there IS such a thing as a "moderate" Muslim community, they themselves will put a stop to the terrorists among them almost instantaneously.
The idea is not to actually take out Muslim holy sites, the idea is to have the certainty that we WILL act as a deterrent. It worked with the Soviet Union and China. It would work with Muslim terrorism.
That is basically what congressman Tom Tancredo said(in response to someone asking him what should the U.S. do if islamic terrorists set off nukes in U.S. cities), and some people slammed him for saying we should take out muslim holy sites in response. When asked about it later, he clarified that it would be a deterrent, they wouldn't know if the U.S. would really take out muslim holy sites in retaliation, but maybe it would make them think twice about using WMD on the U.S.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 4:41 PM |
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DiamondRain
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Exactly right. The great Tom Tancredo is an advocate of such a strategy.
You can talk endlessly about useless strategies while people continue to die, or you can be brave enough to implement a strategy that has a good chance of actually being effective.
No one has the balls to do this yet. But if the Democrats get their way, and we surrender to to Islamic terrorism as they are trying to get us to do, and there is another attack here at home that is vicious enough, the strategy might just resonate with more people.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 4:42 PM |
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kjac
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The only thing bombing Mecca would do is assure the destruction of Israel.
If that's what you're shooting for, by all means go for it. It's not my Holy Land.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 4:45 PM |
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DiamondRain
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Don't count on it. Who's gonna take out Israel? If any Islamic nations could take out Israel, they would have already done it. They don't need an excuse. They are trying their best already. And not all Muslims are suicidal.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 4:49 PM |
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kjac
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Destroying the Holy site of the most popular religion in the world is what I would call suicidal. There's a reason the suggestion was deemed outrageous and psychotic. And that reason is that it is outrageous and psychotic.
And if Israel could stand on their own, they would be. But they can't, so they're not.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 4:59 PM |
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DiamondRain
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They wouldn't have to stand on their own.
If our country's policy was to take out Muslim holy sites in return for Muslim terrorist attacks, it wouldn't have a thing to do with Israel.
If some country then attacked Israel anyway using this excuse, (which they already want to do) they would be committing suicide because the US would destroy them.
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 5:02 PM |
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kjac
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Luckily, that absurd policy will never happen. There are far too many rational people for something like that to happen. The proof is shown where Tancredo finished in his quickly ended race to the White House.
Although if I remember correctly, he did do better than the ex-mayor in a couple of states. 
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 5:06 PM |
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DiamondRain
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Let's revisit the subject if we are lucky enough to survive the next terrorist attack that is likely to happen if a Democrat gets the White house.
As Chuck Colson said" When you've got 'em by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow."
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| Mar 27, 2008 @ 6:28 PM |
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kjac
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Let's revisit the subject if we are lucky enough to survive the next terrorist attack that is likely to happen if a Democrat gets the White house.
You mean like the last one that actually did happen when a Republican got in the White House?
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| Mar 28, 2008 @ 5:36 PM |
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Patrik707
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Terrorists are desperate. War and bombs does not work. Only peace and love.   
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