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DiamondRain
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If a Bombshell Will Drop in Pennsylvania, It Will Drop a Week From Now
"Some Democrats supporting Obama have fretted that there might be footage of Obama or wife Michelle nodding during a damaging Jeremiah Wright tirade."
There are plenty of other juicy possibilities too.
Keep your fingers crossed!
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| Apr 11 @ 3:42 PM |
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onoudn
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I'm not surprised. It's tedious being a Democrat sometimes.
You know though I have to tell you that I really don't care about this. But, then
I keep switching sides from Obama to Hillary; and, sometimes even Mc Cain.
It gets hard to keep up with all the scandals. I wish we had more coverage on how these candidates stand on the issues.
Hey Diamond did you know that the NAACP just announced that Rev Wright will be keynote speaker at an upcoming NAACP event ?
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| Apr 11 @ 4:58 PM |
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marylou
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...I dont think it matters who drops what on who.....I dont think either of them will get in.....so it wont really matter.....LOL
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| Apr 11 @ 5:15 PM |
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DiamondRain
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The problem with trying to convince Democrats that their candidates are no good is that they dismiss any criticism no matter how important.
Lying means nothing to Democrats. Don't bother exposing their candidate as a monumental pathological liar because they don't care. Both Clinton and Obama fall into this description. McCain does not.
Character and integrity also means nothing to Democrats.
If you are trying to influence a Democrat against a candidate, it's a waste of time uncovering anything adverse that goes to honesty, character or integrity (unless it is about a Republican).
If their candidate(s) are nailed in a lie, their response is "all politicians do it."
There is no hope for Dems to see the light. With the rare exception, we will never convert them. All we can do is do our best to defeat them.
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| Apr 12 @ 1:20 PM |
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Gentlegiant127
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This isn't the bombshell, but Clinton went after Obama today for things he said recently.
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| Apr 12 @ 1:27 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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DiamondRain: Substitute "Republican" for "Democrat," and your indictment of party loyalists remains just as relevant.
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| Apr 12 @ 1:55 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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Lying means nothing to Democrats. Don't bother exposing their candidate as a monumental pathological liar because they don't care. Both Clinton and Obama fall into this description. McCain does not.
Character and integrity also means nothing to Democrats.
If you are trying to influence a Democrat against a candidate, it's a waste of time uncovering anything adverse that goes to honesty, character or integrity (unless it is about a Republican).
High fives to the man with the truth on his lips!
Everyone has read my criticisms of George W. Bush, but leftists are dogmatically loyal regardless of the shortcommings of their leaders.
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| Apr 12 @ 1:57 PM |
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Jankia
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Character and integrity also means nothing to Democrats.
Obviously means little to Obama when speaking of a whole bunch of folks in small towns in Pennsylvania "It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
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| Apr 12 @ 2:33 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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Everyone has read my criticisms of George W. Bush, but leftists are dogmatically loyal regardless of the shortcommings of their leaders.
Irrelevant. Dubya is a "lame duck." Traditionally, it's at this point that the party loyalists turn against their old leader, to distance themselves from the failed policies they championed. The new leader will then champion the same policies, but with a different spin on them.
The question is, will you criticize the Republican Congress-critters whose "rubber stamping" of Bush's policies got us into this mess, rather than acting as the "checks and balances" on his excesses?
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| Apr 12 @ 2:37 PM |
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marylou
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polaticions........believe some of what they say but not all....
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| Apr 12 @ 7:26 PM |
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DiamondRain
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It is liberal philosophy that includes the following concepts:
*"Anything goes"
*Any type of lifestyle is acceptable
*No set of values is any better than any other set of values
*Right and wrong are flexible, fluid, relative and ultimately undefinable concepts
*Ethical and moral relativism
Conservative thinking does not include these concepts.
Knowing this, it isn't hard to understand why it is liberals who are less offended by and more willing to overlook distortion and outright violation of truth. After all -- a liberal believes -- there really is no such thing as objective truth anyway. It's just alternate perceptions of reality.
That's just freakin' scary.
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| Apr 12 @ 7:31 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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It is liberal philosophy that includes the following concepts:
*"Anything goes"
*Any type of lifestyle is acceptable
*No set of values is any better than any other set of values
*Right and wrong are flexible, fluid, relative and ultimately undefinable concepts
*Ethical and moral relativism
And the conservative philosophy.
Anything you can get away with is okay.
Only my lifestyle is okay--anything else is forbidden (except to me).
The only set of values that matter is winning, by any means necessary.
Right and wrong are determined by the leaders, and do not apply to the leaders.
Ethical and moral relativism. (Hey, they have at least ONE thing in common...)
The only major difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals are willing to let other people have fun...
Keep trying, DiamondRain. Someday, you'll convince the rest of the world that you're a loony.
No, wait. You'll convince the rest of the world that there's a global liberal conspiracy to tear down civilization once and for all, and that everything that goes wrong must, by some arcane mechanism, be the fault of a liberal--even when it is shown that the proximate cause was some conservative misdeed.
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| Apr 12 @ 7:38 PM |
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DiamondRain
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There's no conspiracy. It's more likely a genetic flaw that leads to deficiency in a liberal's brain. I don't blame them for their handicap, they have no control over it.
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
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| Apr 12 @ 7:39 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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Ah, the "subhuman" argument. You're progressing well in your studies of extremism...
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| Apr 12 @ 7:58 PM |
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steveemac
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Keep trying, DiamondRain. Someday, you'll convince the rest of the world that you're a loony. You can cross me off the list; I was convinced long, long ago...
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| Apr 12 @ 8:55 PM |
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SensualGemini
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From GG's link:
"At issue are comments he made privately at a fundraiser in San Francisco last Sunday. He was trying to explain his troubles winning over some working-class voters, saying they have become frustrated with economic conditions:"
Obama:
"It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
...Obama's long standing as board member of the Joyce Foundation, an anti-gun group, does concern a good many people because of his loyalty to Africa jihadists and LaRaza, while being anti-gun.
...Obama is one to talk about clinging to religion and of course "working-class" voters are concerned about Illegal immigration, not his "anti-immigrant" statement, that reduce wages. And of course the "working class" is concerned about imbalanced trade, that reduces American jobs.
...So, if Obama does not represent the "working class," where in the hell does this educated, born with a silver spoon in his mouth, elitist, think all of the taxes are going to come from... to pay for all of his give away programs?
...The end is in the bag for McCain, but watching the Dems fight for a spot, remains as amusing and more dirt for the Reps to use later.
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| Apr 12 @ 9:06 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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True. But who will McCain go to, hat in hand, to get the programs HE wants?
If both Obama and Clinton lose, they retain their Senate seats. Pretty much no Democratic Senate seats are in any danger this cycle, but several Republican seats are on shaky ground...
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| Apr 12 @ 9:12 PM |
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Nightowl001
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Keep trying, DiamondRain. Someday, you'll convince the rest of the world that you're a loony. You can cross me off the list; I was convinced long, long ago... No need ot make any more efforts on my account, either.
Funny that they so often claim (incorrectly) that liberalism is a mental disorder, when actually the scientific evidence shows the obverse to be correct. Many studies have been done that show the nature of anxiety behind adoption and adherence to conservative policies. One such study reported:
Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition
John T. Jost - Stanford University; Jack Glaser - University of California, Berkeley;
Arie W. Kruglanski - University of Maryland at College Park; Frank J. Sulloway -
University of California, Berkeley.
Analyzing political conservatism as motivated social cognition integrates theories of personality (authoritarianism, dogmatism–intolerance of ambiguity), epistemic and existential needs (for closure, regulatory focus, terror management), and ideological rationalization (social dominance, system justification).
A meta-analysis (88 samples, 12 countries, 22,818 cases) confirms that several psychological variables predict political conservatism: death anxiety (weighted mean r .50); system instability (.47); dogmatism–intolerance of ambiguity (.34); openness to experience (–.32); uncertainty tolerance (–.27); needs for order, structure, and closure (.26); integrative complexity (–.20); fear of threat and loss (.18); and self-esteem (–.09). The core ideology of conservatism stresses resistance to change and justification of inequality and is motivated by needs that vary situationally and dispositionally to manage uncertainty and threat. (Boy, don't those underscored attributes remind us of a couple of people in particular?)
Again and again it has been remarked that radical liberalism was the foundation of this country, especially the refusal to accept the justification of inequality and declare that all men were created equal. The conservatives of their day saw the founders as disloyal traitors to the hegemony of the English Empire. The pattern throughout history has been "Liberals innovate; conservatives in time come to dominate; revolution occurs." With each cycle of a few hundred years, give or take, small steps are taken in social evolution. As has also been pointed out, the winners write the history books. Conservatives presently standing in the way of the next step of social evolution will be overthrown, and history will mark them down as the next group of dogmatic clingers-on to a failed society who passed screaming and kicking into history. The only way this will not happen is if the conservative hawks manage to incite a world conflagration that annihilate us all, liberal and conservative alike, rather than give up their shrinking grasp on control of society. And only conservative extremist resistance to change can justify the suicide-bomber mindset of "it's okay if we all die, as long as all of them die."
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| Apr 12 @ 9:25 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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NightOwl: The ultra-liberal fringe, which is so often used with a broad brush to paint the entire extreme-left-to-moderate wing of our population, shares little philosophically with the liberalism of our founding fathers. Just as the ultra-conservative/neo-con fringe of the right-to-extreme-right wing of our population shares little, philosophically, with either the federalist-authoritarians or the anarchist-libertarians of our founding fathers' initial political parties.
Politics changed. The view of what was the purpose of government changed. The struggle today comes from the excesses of the late 1800s to the early 1900s, and has little to do with the first hundred years of our history.
Some people want to go back to the first hundred years. It's not going to happen. There are policies in place within the Democratic party which I oppose. There are more within the Republican party which I oppose. The Democratic ones are wrong-headed. The Republican ones are cold-blooded. I prefer a well-meaning/pandering idiotic idea to a self-centered/manipulative diabolical one.
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| Apr 12 @ 9:30 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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So, now, we are mentally deficient! We have major brain problems as compared to the rethuglicans!
DR....you are the mental midget!! We all know it and have known it for quite sometime! As a matter of fact we have discussed what could be wrong with you in many, many emails others and I have made in the previous months!
I believe it is the "Messiah Complex" with visions of grandeur! 
Anyway this link is for you and all the others that believe rethuglicans are smart!
rethuglicans just as stupid as ever
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden."
"It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
-- George W. Bush 9-13-2001
"I don't know where he (bin Laden) is. I have no idea and I really don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority."
-- George W. Bush 3-13-2002
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