| Apr 27 @ 6:50 PM |
This article tells us that there are a lot of people in Iraq that want us OUT
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Bj864
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and that they have not given up the fight to keep control of their own country.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/04/25/iraq.main/index.html
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| Apr 27 @ 6:56 PM |
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Novalite
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Article "When we threatened to declare an open war until the liberation, we meant war against the occupier," al-Sadr said in his letter. "There is no war between us and our Iraqi brothers -- no matter what their nationality, race or sect. The blood of Iraqis are forbidden on you."
He encouraged not only his Mehdi Army militia to fight U.S. troops, but also every Iraqi, including the nation's security forces which are in league with U.S. troops.
Yes, understood. He's advocating taking up arms against his own elected government which he is part of.
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| Apr 27 @ 7:51 PM |
This article tells us that there are a lot of people in Iraq that want us OUT
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Gman762
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What's this "we" and "us" crap that this Mookie turd keeps talking about?? He's been spending most of the past two years holed up with his Guisseppi's over in Iran. The last thing that Iran wants is a Democratic Iran right in their back yard. Worse yet if a Democracy exists on two sides of them! We knew that going in. In fact, that is part of the point of being there to see that Iraq "is" a democracy. Iran will stop at nothing to insure that it never happens and they are pulling Mookie's strings to help see that it doesn't. Mookie should pick up a rifle, put his money where his mouth is and lead the first charge...
If anyone believes that Mookie and his henchmen would never kill other sects, they must be smoking rope. They have and they will again, regardless.
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| Apr 27 @ 8:08 PM |
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Jankia
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Is this where we are supposed to post all thats been written about the people in Iraq that are gratefull for us helping them to become free of oppression?
I suppose not,because that would need to be on another thread that few would read because its actually good news.
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| Apr 27 @ 8:50 PM |
This article tells us that there are a lot of people in Iraq that want us OUT
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SweetNapaGuy
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Grateful for getting rid of Saddam and wanting an indefinite American occupation are two separate things.
But that would be shades of gray...
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| Apr 27 @ 11:22 PM |
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Jankia
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For those that probaly didnt read the link Bj864 provided it states... Al-Sadr said he would not accept the long-term agreement which the U.S. and Iraqi governments are crafting to replace the current U.N. mandate for multi-national forces in Iraq. The U.N. mandate expires in December.
"There should be no long-term security agreement between the government and occupier, no matter how hard they fight us and no matter how much of our blood is spilled," he said. "We will not accept to divide Iraq and to steal its wealth."
Just where is all this "wealth" Al Sadr claims we are there for? He commands the Mahdi army, one of the most formidable insurgent militias in Iraq.If the Iraqis themselves want us out and the Iranian backed Mahdi Army to control there country,why arent they considered in this "lot of people"?
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| Apr 28 @ 1:49 AM |
This article tells us that there are a lot of people in Iraq that want us OUT
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Paralegal_at_Law
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In 1947, I am sure that a lot of Germans and Japanese would also have opined that it would be best for them, if the US Military left their nations and did not occupy Nazi German or Imperial Japan.
Naturally, no one in their right mind listens to such tripe from the special interests within an occupied nation long before our mission has been fully accomplished.
Fifty years after World War II, American bases are still located in Germany and Japan, and the teens there are wearing blue jeans, using Ipods, and are far more influenced by American thought than their parents or grand parents ever were.
Occupation of a defeated nation has many benefits for the emerging democratic nation, so Precision Thinkers hear the dweebs of those who want America out of Iraq, both within Iraq and also those whose patriotism is lacking who are in America, and instantly negate their whining by "keeping our eyes on the prize" which is to Westernize Iraq as a key ally and representative democracy in the Middle East that is NOT at war with Israel.
I gladly pay my federal taxes to keep purchasing MOAB bombs, Daisy Cutter Bombs, Smart Weapons, and Stealth Delivery Systems of advanced weaponry, so that we continue to possess military supremacy over the fanatic terrorists who must either surrender unconditionally, or die, as is reasonable and proper because it is NOT a War in Iraq; it is a War on Terror with an Iraqi Theater of Operations.
As I have spoken, so mote it be.
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| Apr 28 @ 2:03 AM |
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SunBabe
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Naturally, no one in their right mind listens to such tripe from the special interests within an occupied nation long before our mission has been fully accomplished.
Having lived in both Germany and Japan (as a kid) in the decade after WWII, I can assure you that the feelings of hatred and animosity toward Americans were often ugly and strong.
Yeh, let's see...so it'll only take another 50 years (after hostilities end) for Iraqis to wear jeans and bop around town with iPods.
Funny thing is, they were ALL free to do that very same thing, and did so, BEFORE we interferred. 
Uh, now exactly what's so great about emulating America's lifestyle anyway? And I can't see how shoving our "democracy" down the throats of a culture that developed thousands of years ago -- with a completely different kind of social organization, standards, and values -- is a good influence. How arrogant and imperialistic. 
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| Apr 28 @ 2:37 AM |
This article tells us that there are a lot of people in Iraq that want us OUT
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Paralegal_at_Law
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How arrogant and imperialistic.
Thank you! Leftist call certain attitudes "Ugly American" while those who are far more reasonable call it being a "Shrewd Yankee Trader."
now exactly what's so great about emulating America's lifestyle anyway?
Maybe it has escaped you, but America has become the most generous and kindest nation in the history of Planet Earth, liberating peoples formerly ruled by tyrants, oppresssors, and dictators and introducing representative democracy as the LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD.
Sure, political power comes from the barrel of a gun, and America as the worlds sole Superpower has a duty to utilize its military might to establish whats right.
Sunbabe, you should experience life under Sharia Law as Wife number 4, wearing a Chador or Burka, and being beaten regularly in that wonderful culture that you uphold when you complain of America "shoving our "democracy" down the throats of a culture that developed thousands of years ago -- with a completely different kind of social organization, standards, and values." and THEN tell me that America's values are not so great.
But, hardly ANYONE agrees with YOU and most everyone thinks that America's democracy is the best form of government. Naturally, you enjoy YOUR freedoms while being willing to put in the toilet the freedoms of others, in a narcisistic, hedonist, elitist, and smug manner; however, I assure you that liberty and justice for ALL does NOT end at the USA borders and that when it comes to mankind, none of us is really free while others are in bondage or are suppressed.
Which is why I can't wait to demonstrate again, and again, and again, that political power comes from the barrel of a gun, and America as the worlds sole Superpower has a duty to utilize its military might to establish whats right by invading and occupying a list of nations that are ruled by regimes that subborn genocide, terrorism, criminal cartels, piracy, the subjugation of women, the imposition of state religions, or other 21st Century Human Rights Abuses, and in my arrogant and imperialistic manner, effecting a regime change especially to foster representative democracy and the championing of human rights in all quarters of the globe.
FREE OCCUPIED TIBET!
As I have spoken, so mote it be.
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| Apr 28 @ 3:08 AM |
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SunBabe
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Don't worry, baby, I'm quite prepared to unleash "resistance" from the barrels of my guns when your so-called freedom-fighters come goose-steeping around to "liberate" me.
Cripes, have you EVER lived anywhere else than Prairiedog, Missouri? All your Politi-Babble is purely THEORY -- have you ever lived in reality?
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| Apr 28 @ 3:41 AM |
This article tells us that there are a lot of people in Iraq that want us OUT
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Paralegal_at_Law
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Uh, now exactly what's so great about emulating America's lifestyle anyway? And I can't see how shoving our "democracy" down the throats of a culture that developed thousands of years ago
Cripes, have you EVER lived anywhere else than Prairiedog, Missouri? All your Politi-Babble is purely THEORY -- have you ever lived in reality? Naturally, no one in their right mind listens to such tripe |
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| Apr 28 @ 5:18 AM |
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Nightowl001
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A "judge" who has pre-judged and will not hear evidence? Definitely a "far-right" mind. I see some are still clinging to the edge of the bell curve by their fingertips. 
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| Apr 28 @ 11:13 AM |
This article tells us that there are a lot of people in Iraq that want us OUT
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lj450
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Terrorist: "We think you should leave!!"
Wow, now thats news to me.
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| Apr 28 @ 1:11 PM |
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bearvp
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Some want us to leave, some don't. The ones in the thick of things think our presence makes their lives harder and the ones in pacified places think we did them a favor.
The smart ones know that if the USA leaves, the Iraqi Security forces are not equipped or trained to handle the violence on their own and the militias (like al-Sadr's) will push harder for more territory and control.
Honestly, if I were a law-abiding Iraqi, I'd want the USA to stick around for a while longer. The chances of me getting blown up on my way to work or at the market are much less with the US military around.
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| Apr 28 @ 1:20 PM |
This article tells us that there are a lot of people in Iraq that want us OUT
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Paralegal_at_Law
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The entire prisoner population of Leavenworth Federal Prison want the USA out of the prison premises and the keys to all cells left behind.
But like the people in Iraq that want us gone, and the people down in Hel* who want ice water, things are just not going to happen the way the bad guys want it to.
The good guys are going to be occupying Iraq and governing Leavenworth Federal Prison for the foreseeable duration.
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| Apr 28 @ 6:02 PM |
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marylou
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Many of the Iraqi people want the US presence to remain there. It is the rebel groups and US haters who openly say they want the troops out of there. But a great many of them still want the US to remain there....until Iraque is stronger.
I have quite a few Iraqi friends who have told me that. They hear from their rellies all the time. Not everyone in Iraq hates Americans.
An Iraqi man who lost his sons over there .....during a bombing......when asked by a reporter did he think it was worth it......he said *yes....that is the price so that Iraq will be free.* He wouldnt be the only one who felt that way.
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| Apr 29 @ 9:51 AM |
This article tells us that there are a lot of people in Iraq that want us OUT
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Paralegal_at_Law
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It is the rebel groups and US haters who openly say they want the troops out of there. Also, there are some people in Iraq that want US troops gone. |
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| Apr 29 @ 4:58 PM |
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marylou
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Para....yes you are right...I omitted to say that. I wouldnt want to say how many do or how many dont. I just dont know. But I know there are many that do want them to remain there. To many it is worth it for better days ahead....and they can see that. I know only too well that there are many in the middle east who will always have gripes against the US. I dont think that will ever stop. Maybe some have legitamate gripes......but for others they will nit pick at anything. Dont think we will ever have a *perfect* world..........lol
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| Apr 30 @ 7:00 PM |
This article tells us that there are a lot of people in Iraq that want us OUT
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Bj864
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Here is a very detailed poll of the Iraqi people last year.
http://www.brusselstribunal.org/Polls260307.htm
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| Apr 30 @ 7:19 PM |
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sealacamp
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I suppose not,because that would need to be on another thread that few would read because its actually good news.
So sad and oh so true jankia. Like a pig most want to wallow in misery and look for anyone that will join them.
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