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Jun 4, 2008 @ 9:56 PM Who put Obama in - the voters, the pledged delegates or the super delegates?    
irish20835


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and if i have offend you I do apologize ...you have been one of my oldest and dearest friends at this site ..im thinking of what could be if that woman was giving even 1/3 of the power that dub ya has taken ..it could be scary
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Jun 4, 2008 @ 10:03 PM Who put Obama in - the voters, the pledged delegates or the super delegates?    
LipGlossQueen9


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Thank you for your apology.
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Jun 4, 2008 @ 10:05 PM Who put Obama in - the voters, the pledged delegates or the super delegates?    
irish20835


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Jun 5, 2008 @ 12:00 AM Who put Obama in - the voters, the pledged delegates or the super delegates?    
Jankia


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The blame? That belongs to the Democratic party,Hillary in particular.
The question should be...Will a good Democrat please stand up?
There are good ones out there.
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Jun 5, 2008 @ 12:36 PM Who put Obama in - the voters, the pledged delegates or the super delegates?    
Bj864


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Ya know this sickens me...and no offense to my good friend bj ..and LGQ..but the democrats are so desperate to get the republicans but they whine about their candidate

Wrong.

Hillary was not my candidate. My views are not because she was my candidate, but because I feel like she was not treated fairly. I would have the same views regardless of who it was. I know that might be hard to understand, but thats the way I am.

My candidate was Dennis Kucinich.

At one time, I would have considered voting for McCain. Not anymore. He has gone the way of the neo cons and all he can think about is war and he doesn't care if this entire country goes under to finance them.
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Jun 5, 2008 @ 1:47 PM Who put Obama in - the voters, the pledged delegates or the super delegates?    
Nightowl001


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Ya know this sickens me...and no offense to my good friend bj ..and LGQ..but the democrats are so desperate to get the republicans but they whine about their candidate ..obama has won ..live with it ..get behind him and get him elected ...
I'm not sure I understand what this is supposed to mean. It sounds to me a lot like you are advocating applying the "love it or leave it" philosophy to our political affiliations. Or perhaps the "Emperor's New Clothes" philosophy. Senator Obama didn't rise to godhood with the achievement of the nomination (which he hasn't actually done yet; that won't happen until the convention, etc., etc.) Barring any major occurrences, Obama is the candidate I will support in the national election over McCain. That doesn't mean I think he's perfect, or even the best candidate the Democrats could have put up, and I don't have to delude myself into thinking he is perfect, or run around telling other people he is, to vote for him. I just have to be convinced he is better than his opponent. I can listen to criticisms of him by conservatives, and perhaps even agree with their criticsms on some points, and say, "Yes, that's a valid point. BUT.. I think this outweighs that criticism, making him a better overall candidate." I am not and will never be a "yes man," and if Obama figuratively strides into the oval office with his fly unzipped, I don't consider it not supporting him to point that out.
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Jun 5, 2008 @ 9:11 PM Who put Obama in - the voters, the pledged delegates or the super delegates?    
Bj864


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nightowl
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