| Jun 17 @ 10:35 AM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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This has been bothering me for quite awhile now, but last night I decided I couldn't take it anymore after witnessing Keith Olbermann take a shot at the President because he couldn't make a basket while playing basketball with a bunch of kids in Ireland.
I am really quite sick and tired of people taking cheap shots at the President's intelligence when in truth they have no idea how intelligent the man really is. It is the most ridiculous, overused, and cheap kind of attack there is and I think that the people who engage in these attacks do this because they can't find anything else to attack the President on (not that there isn't a lot of material).
We should be engaging in policy-based attacks on the President, not these tired attacks on his intelligence for which there is no real basis. Face it, none of us have ever met the man and we have no idea how intelligent he really is or isn't. Just because he messes up when he speaks in public does not mean he is intellectually deficient: I am quite intelligent, with quite a high IQ in fact, and I ALWAYS mess up when I am speaking. In fact, like two weeks ago when I was speaking to my therapist I said "blowed" instead of "blew" when speaking about my money-spending habits. Am I unintelligent now, too?
I am so sick and tired of hearing statements like these:
"There is an idiot in the White House who can't speak the English language."
"What a moron."
And then the oh-so-cliche
"Somewhere in Texas, a village is missing its idiot."
Does it make you feel more intelligent to make baseless attacks like these? It's people like you who make liberals look bad, and I hope you know that.
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| Jun 17 @ 10:45 AM |
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willsmalto
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That's what happens when theres no news to broadcast. Pretty much like the silly season in politics.
No surprise to me cos journalists would say anything just to make themselves busy. They're being paid for that. so you know...
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| Jun 17 @ 10:49 AM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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I'm not talking about just journalists, though Keith Olbermann is like a tumor on the ass of the world and he should be removed.
I am talking about the vast number of liberals out there that have decided to make the lot of us look bad by taking cheap shots at our President instead of choosing to actually you know, research something, and attack him on his wacked out policymaking.
What surprises me is that a great many people who engage in this behaviour are over the age of 13.
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| Jun 17 @ 10:54 AM |
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willsmalto
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Look lgq, a "hungry man" is an "angry man". not by any means trying to buy whatever people are saying about Bush but you know...an angry person would say anything to satisfy their anger
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| Jun 17 @ 10:56 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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The present state of low public approval of President George W. Bush was crafted and manipulated by the leftists and the "drive by" national news media to continuously promote the notions that the President is stupid, that "he lied" about Iraq when the truth is he opted to belive certain advice and estimates from among various conflicting sources. Given the fact that all wars feature intelligence guesses, and that the National Intelligence Estimate documentation is NOT a series of absolutes but includes the best available guesses and advice that is at the time available, there was a conspiracy to demean the President and administration in order to artificially craft and create public disapproval of George W. Bush.
Remember all the "Valerie Plame" gossip and inuendo? Well it is well known that Assistant Secretary of State Armitage was the one who leaked her affiliation to the news media, NOT Dick Cheney, George Bush, or Karl Rove. Yet for months on end the daily gind in the news media was conjecture that the White House was behind the CIA-Valerie Plame relationship that was leaked.
Then when the only criminal trial occured, it was NOT for leaking Valerie Plame's identity, but for lying to investigators about it on the part of Scooter Libby. Why didn't the Special Prosecutor charge Scooter Libby with the actual "outing" of Valerie Plame as a CIA Employee? BECAUSE SHE WAS NOT COVERED BY THE LAW AS A COVERT OPERATIVE AND WAS INSTEAD, A GARDEN VARIETY ANALYST THAT WAS AN OPEN CIA EMPLOYEE, THE KIND THAT CAN HAVE A CIA PARKING LOT STICKER ON THEIR CAR!
Which means there never was a violation of law to "out her identitity" since Valerie Plame was NEVER a real SPY who would be covered and protected by the statute. Which means Dick Armitage NEVER committed a crime by outing her, which is why the Special Prosecutor NEVER indicted him.
But the who affair was crafted to simply destroy the President, the White House, and the Republican Party, by machine gunning "cheap shots" at the President on a constant basis.
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| Jun 17 @ 10:58 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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Alternatively, the public could really be displeased with the President, and the news media could just be reporting it. Because, you know, not everything is a part of the liberal conspiracy.
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| Jun 17 @ 11:11 AM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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PAL I do believe the public is displeased with the President...including myself.
I was not trying to say that they aren't.
Please re-read my post.
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| Jun 17 @ 11:13 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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PAL I do believe the public is displeased with the President...including myself.
I was not trying to say that they aren't.
Please re-read my post.
Of course the public is displeased with the president; I merely exposed the reasons behind why the public is displeased with the president as being the fact that the news media attacked him daily without merit and hand-crafted a dubious suspicion among the people, most of which dont realize how much of the NEWS is really propaganda and half-truth and a whole lot of spin and lies.
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| Jun 17 @ 11:20 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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Because he's the sainted martyr of the neo-con cause, and he walks on water, and if only everyone were to recognize how well we have it at this moment (and ignore how worse off we are now compared to 4 years ago), doggonit, everything would be coming up roses...
Ain't buying it, Para. People are displeased with Dubya for good cause. Maybe not "as bad as President Grant" cause, but he sure did his damnedest to win himself the title of "worst President, EVER."
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| Jun 17 @ 11:29 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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People are displeased with Dubya for good cause.
Not so. People only know what they are told and most of what the news media propagates is so slanted, and given that they actually film staged scenes that are not really happening outside of a script, retouch photos, and lie, lie, lie, there is no way that the American people are actually making informed choices based upon reliable information.
Dan Rather knowingly when on 60 minutes with documents that CBS analysts told him in advance were forged; Geraldo hired Afghan street kids to wear phoney bandages and writhe and groan during the "stray bomb" segment when Geraldo was 300 miles away from the real site where the stray bomb hit, so he staged the scene with acting temps and extras to show us scenes of what never happened, just like what happened in Lebanon when Hamas staged those ambulance loading pics with phoney victims of Israeli bombs, not to mention how CNN broadcast those skyline views of Beirut with the smoke of burning buildings "hit by Israeli bombs" which was really RETOUCHED PHOTOS to insert smoke of buring buildings that did not exist in real life.
The truth is, I can take 10,000 people and bombard them with propaganda for 8 years and show them phoney pictures and lying witnesses and eventually most of the people watching will start parroting what they have seen as being "true."
Which is in fact the condition of the average American who is not adept enough to obtain several sources of the same news, all from differing slants, in order to get to the real truth, instead of just being spoon-feed goons with skulls full of mush that are themselves the victims of a massive propaganda lie-factory news media and will eventually like cult victims, need to be de-programmed with some real truth for a change.
For instance, as far as George W. Bush being "stupid" is concerned, the truth is he has a higher IQ than Al Gore.
George W. Bush LOW IQ debunked by Snopes
[Edited on 6/17/2008 11:35 AM]
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| Jun 17 @ 11:52 AM |
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Gallows_Humor
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on topic... a cheap shot is a cheap shot... The question in my mind is.. "Why, if he is so smart.. does want to act so dumb? ( not "why is he dumb..." )
but the main focus of this post is Para's feeble attempt to rewrite history here.. focusing on ~ Valerie Elise Plame Wilson ~ .. instead of her husband.. she was a pawn in the "rethuglican " game of terror and manipulation. It was her husband ~ Joseph Charles Wilson, IV ~ ..who was the target..
so..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Armitage#Role_in_revealing_Valerie_Plame.27s_CIA_employment
Para.. true or false?
Wilson became known to the general public as a result of his controversial op-ed "What I Didn't Find in Africa", published in the New York Times four months after the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Wilson's op-ed documented his 2002 Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) investigation into whether Iraq had purchased or attempted to purchase uranium yellowcake from Niger. He concluded that the George W. Bush administration twisted intelligence to "exaggerate the Iraqi threat."[4]
The week after the article's publication, Robert Novak disclosed Wilson's wife's classified covert CIA identity as "Valerie Plame" in his syndicated Washington Post column. Subsequently, former Ambassador Wilson and others alleged that the disclosure was part of the Bush administration's attempts to discredit his report on his trip to Africa and the op-ed describing his findings because they did not support the government's rationale for the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
Para... true or false
Valerie Plame Wilson, and the wife of former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, is a former United States CIA Operations Officer, whose covert identity was classified.[1][2][3][4][5][6] After working for the CIA for twenty years, she retired in December 2005, as a result of the publication and compromising of her classified cover identity by an American journalist in the summer of 2003.[7][8]
On 14 July 2003, Robert Novak identified "Wilson's wife" publicly as "an agency operative on weapons of mass destruction" named "Valerie Plame" in his syndicated column in The Washington Post.[9] In that column Novak was responding to an op-ed entitled "What I Didn't Find in Africa," written by Wilson and published in the New York Times the previous week
para... true or false??
In 1998, Armitage signed "The Project for the New American Century" letter (PNAC Letter) to President Bill Clinton. The letter urged Clinton to target the removal of Saddam Hussein's regime from power in Iraq due to erosion of the Gulf War Coalition's containment policy and the resulting possibility that Iraq might develop weapons of mass destruction. The letter's intended purpose of removing Hussein was to protect Israel and other U.S. allies in the region, including oil-producing Arab countries.[citations needed]
During the 2000 Presidential election campaign, he served as a foreign policy advisor to George W. Bush as part of a group led by Condoleezza Rice that called itself The Vulcans.[citations needed]
The United States Senate confirmed him as Deputy Secretary of State on March 23, 2001; he was sworn three days later. A close associate of Secretary of State Colin Powell, Armitage was regarded, along with Powell, as a moderate within the presidential administration of George W. Bush. According to President Musharraf, of Pakistan, shortly after 9/11, Armitage presented Pakistan with demands for assistance in the campaign against Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. The demands were non-negotiable. Should Pakistan accept, it would be considered a United States ally. Should it decline, Pakistan would be considered an enemy. According to Mussharaf, Armitage further averred that, should Pakistan decline, the United States would bomb it 'back to the Stone Age.' Armitage denies having used those words. Armitage tendered his resignation on November 16, 2004, the day after Powell announced his resignation as Secretary of State.
Para stated...
Remember all the "Valerie Plame" gossip and inuendo? Well it is well known that Assistant Secretary of State Armitage was the one who leaked her affiliation to the news media, NOT Dick Cheney, George Bush, or Karl Rove. Yet for months on end the daily gind in the news media was conjecture that the White House was behind the CIA-Valerie Plame relationship that was leaked.
so Para...  does it really matter who spoke the words? as it was the "rethuglcan machine" that did this... of which.. Bush is the puppet who we see.. and we all know that puppets are only as smart as the person who is pulling the strings want them to be... 
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| Jun 17 @ 11:54 AM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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There goes anyone paying attention to the topic. 
Anyway
Why, if he is so smart.. does want to act so dumb?
I do it.
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| Jun 17 @ 11:59 AM |
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Gallows_Humor
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 I left out the "he"..
actually it is part of the topic LGQ... in my mind Bush is a smart man.. but he does act dumb some of the time... and sets himself up for these cheap shots...
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| Jun 17 @ 12:01 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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Still, it's a tired and overused attack and it makes the rest of us look bad.
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| Jun 17 @ 12:03 PM |
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Gallows_Humor
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it does make "liberals" look bad... was this his intent?
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| Jun 17 @ 12:05 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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It could be.
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| Jun 17 @ 12:08 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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Nope. Spin all the propaganda you want, Para, but the truth is, there is GOOD CAUSE to judge the Bush presidency poorly.
He may not be the worst president of all time (that's up for debate, and will be subject to the judgment of history), but he definitely ranks among the worst five.
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| Jun 17 @ 12:18 PM |
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Kenn159
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For everything this criminal sitting in the white house has done that has resulted in the loss of life and home for the multitudes, countless lies to the american people and total disregard for the american constiution, I will not shed one tear for any negative remarks to this true anti american.
Keith Oberman is a breath of fresh air compaired to majority of media Bush panderers.
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| Jun 17 @ 12:22 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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Keith Oberman is a breath of fresh air
As a liberal, he makes me ashamed.
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| Jun 17 @ 12:38 PM |
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COWBOYBILLYBOB
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SWEETNAP...Rush (El Pumpkinhead) says the "driveby" media is to blame for the president's low approval rating. (No, he did all by himself!) Therefore, PARA believes it and parrots him! If GWB killed someone in plain sight, the media will be blamed for reporting it!
With that truth being said, Keith Olbermann is a jerk, and a lousy entertainer. Just like Dennis Miller. 2 wastes of time on television!
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