| Jun 21, 2008 @ 7:12 PM |
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onoudn
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"We still have quite a few left if Louisiana needs those," David Paulison said. "But we did find out, we did ask Louisiana, 'Do you want these?' They said, 'No, we don't need them.' So we offered them to the other states."
"That is property that was purchased in response to Katrina. We purchased most of that equipment because of the catastrophic nature of that disaster."
 One of these statements is not like the other.....
How can we as a nation be critical of the countries like China in there response to diasters when our own government is so inept ?
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| Jun 21, 2008 @ 8:09 PM |
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DiamondRain
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Exactly. Government can't get anything right.
They bankrupted our retirement system, Social Security, destroyed our senior health care system, Medicare, fumbled and bumbled border security, Waco, Katrina, you name it.
They can't run anything right without waste, fraud, fiscal mismanagement and corruption until they run it into the ground.
So why in the world do Democrats want to turn over the health care system (and virtually everything else) to this same government? Haven't they bankrupted and bungled enough programs yet? 
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| Jun 21, 2008 @ 8:20 PM |
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onoudn
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I think the idea is to make health care affordable for every one which, btw, has nothing to do with the inept reponse the Bush administration has had in regard to Katrina, 911, the war in Iraq, etc, etc, etc.
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| Jun 21, 2008 @ 8:32 PM |
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DiamondRain
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So they will make health care affordable just like they made Social Security and Medicare affordable? They already take 8% of every working person’s paycheck to pay for these programs and another 8% from their employer, plus even more money in premiums from Medicare recipients, and both programs are still so broke that they couldn’t possibly dig themselves out of bankruptcy for 10 generations.
That’s how the Democrats plan to make health care “affordable” for everyone?
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| Jun 21, 2008 @ 8:39 PM |
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Loreli
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Katrina happened during Bush.... 
FEMA has been excellent here so far.
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| Jun 21, 2008 @ 8:41 PM |
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onoudn
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FEMA and Homeland Security need to be separated I think
But I have to run for a couple of days. Then I will be back maybe
take care yall 
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| Jun 21, 2008 @ 8:49 PM |
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DiamondRain
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So Katrina happened during Bush. Waco happened during Clinton. Lots of other crappy management happened during both Democrat and Republican run governments.
The point is that government, whether Democrat or Republican run can’t run anything right. They have a decades old track record of failure with every big government program they ever got involved with.
So why is it that Democrats want the government to run even more things?
It’s like hiring someone who has a miserable track record of failing in everything they do to fill the most important position in your company. It’s moronic.
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| Jun 21, 2008 @ 9:38 PM |
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Nightowl001
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It’s like hiring someone who has a miserable track record of failing in everything they do to fill the most important position in your company. It’s moronic. Yep, they sure as hell failed in setting up this country, didn't they? Failed to turn back any enemy with their massive defense programs. Failed to reach the moon. Oh, and what a debacle the Federal Highway system is! And Social Security! What a mess! Only three generations of senior Americans no longer consigned to live in "poor houses" like people did prior to Social Security. Yep, this government has never managed to accomplish a damn thing worth doing that involved a massive, nationwide participation. Can you imagine the nerve of those hate-America-First liberals worrying about whether or not every one of those Americans they hate has cradle-to-grave health care? Healthcare the birthright of being born in the greatest nation on earth? Can you imagine?! Caring about the comfort and welfare of strangers you've never met but who are your fellow citizens more than caring about whether your bank balance is bigger than theirs? How Un-American! Yep. You said it, DR. "It's moronic!"
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| Jun 21, 2008 @ 9:58 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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DiamondRain....said this...."The point is that government, whether Democrat or Republican run can’t run anything right. They have a decades old track record of failure with every big government program they ever got involved with."...!!
DR....I have ran across in my lifetime many challenged people. Some that always ran their mouths without checking facts. Then when put to task over their mouthing always tried squirming their way out....and as usual failed miserably!
Did you stop to think about the "Tennessee Valley Authority"? How about Social Security? How about the Corps of Engineers? How about all the man-made dams and lakes built by our country since the '30's? How about the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo Space Programs? How about the Interstate Highway System?
The list is not endless but, there is enough mentioned already to make your statements ludicrous!
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| Jun 21, 2008 @ 10:12 PM |
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SensualGemini
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O: How can we as a nation be critical of the countries like China in there response to diasters when our own government is so inept ?
...Define inept?
...You first quote was taken from CNN and true, it was an interview with David Paulison that was quoted, but there was much more:
FEMA director defends giving away hurricane supplies.
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...But your second quote was derived from email correspondence earlier by James McIntyre, a spokesman from the General Services Administrations, which manages property after FEMA purchases.
...McIntyre refused to be interviewed, as the surplus was from several disasters across the nation, including hurricanes Katrina and Rita.
...Not that any of the Louisiana bureaucrats could get anything straight during the catastrophe, they now seem to finally agree and FEMA is sending the surplus back to them:
FEMA gives hurricane supplies back to Louisiana.
...Inept, was CNN reporting this as "news," from their earlier misleading questions proposed to McIntyre, such as "were these supplies purchased for Katrina?" ... Well, of course many of them were, as from everyone's bitching about slowness in response, they wanted to have plenty on hand.
"Damned if you do and damned if you don't."
End of story... 
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| Jun 21, 2008 @ 10:39 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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I can see states right now needing those supplies. If Louisiana had a need for those supplies they should have been used 2 years ago instead of being stored in Texas.
Iowa, and other states, need those supplies right now. So, what is the problem?
SG....you are right......."Damned if you do and damned if you don't"! WOW!!
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| Jun 22, 2008 @ 7:26 PM |
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SensualGemini
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Lefty: Iowa, and other states, need those supplies right now. So, what is the problem?
...After 2 years, if the taxpayers have not figured it out, this is simply a giveaway to appease by a politically driven welfare.
...The majority of $83 million worth of supplies is all going to "non-profits," who will decide who gets what. I will bet next month, you will be able to buy this stuff for 10 to 15 cents on the dollar at the local pawnshops and such. Let's see if CNN follows up with any news on that.
...As Loreli stated, FEMA has been great in Iowa with the recent flooding, but as DR stated, the government is extremely wasteful in what they attempt to manage; this $83 million for Louisiana being a probable example after 2 years.
...Yet, this number appears as a drop in the bucket to the well over $6 billion taxpayer dollars that was spent after just the first year and does not include rebuilding levies.
Frequently Requested National Statistics Hurricane Katrina – One Year Later
...But, it gets even better, or is that worse for the taxpayer:
Katrina victims swamp corps with trillions in claims
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| Jun 22, 2008 @ 8:16 PM |
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Bj864
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...After 2 years, if the taxpayers have not figured it out, this is simply a giveaway to appease by a politically driven welfare.
I would rather see this kind of welfare than Bush's kind; that is welfare to the richest of us all.
Is this not some of why we pay taxes? For disasters?
Katrina was so mismanaged, most people connected to it should have been fired. Instead what we got was the famous works "your're doing a heck of a job Brownie"
FEMA used to be an excellent agency. That was before Bush Inc practically dismantled it.
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| Jun 23, 2008 @ 9:26 PM |
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onoudn
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sg...After 2 years, if the taxpayers have not figured it out, this is simply a giveaway to appease by a politically driven welfare.
No not so.....As Paulson stated these supplies were purchased according to the " castasrophic nature of the disaster"...IT's NOT WELFARE....it's diaster relief...which two years later is still very much needed and deserved.
this is how i define inept
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