| Jun 26 @ 7:18 AM |
There are five Supreme Court JUstices who are dumb f***s
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crouchingtiger
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But so are the libs who will support their recent position of complete stupidity:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080626/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_child_rape;_ylt=Aisv22mj4tJPG7gY4jSFCSGs0NUE
The court's 5-4 decision Wednesday derailed the efforts of nearly a dozen states supporting the right to kill those convicted of raping a child — and said execution was confined to attacks that take a life and to other crimes including treason and espionage.
I suppose the libs on here will come to the Supremes defense (  ) on this, good, then put this man and any others who do this into the general population and remove the guards from the premises for 48 hours.
If the child rapists is still even alive ok, but if he is dead, the prison system has done what the f***ing ass hole liberal judges would not do, put the creeps to death and there is no appeal to a higher court.
So, now you libs can come on and cry your bloody "But the jack ass son a bitch' may have something to give back to society.
Yeah, after he is dead use his body to study in a medical school.
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| Jun 26 @ 10:06 AM |
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Heaveninawildflower
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Well, I'm socially liberal and fiscally conservative so I'm totally appreciative of the prison populations who put down Dahmer, etc. and saved the rest of us the expense of keeping him alive as well as the multi-million dollar expense of enforcing the death sentence (check it out, it's true that enforcing the death penalty is ridiculously expensive - told you I'm fiscally conservative).
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| Jun 26 @ 10:48 AM |
There are five Supreme Court JUstices who are dumb f***s
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eastham
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Yes, Heaven, lots of people forget the expense of the appeal process in a capital case. Of course, I expect the next installment on this forum to be a call for the end to all appeals in a capital case.
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| Jun 26 @ 11:09 AM |
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Gallows_Humor
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it always amazes me when people lash out emotionally toward the Supreme Court.. these people are not stupid .. they spend all their time on the law.. and look at every possible fact and facet
bottom line is.. the state's taking a life where a life was not taken is wrong... castrate them.. lobotomize them ...poke their eyes out .. putting them in the general prison population  but the state killing them 
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| Jun 26 @ 11:26 AM |
There are five Supreme Court JUstices who are dumb f***s
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crouchingtiger
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then let these pervs move in next door to you.
but the best way to deal with them is,
the guards put the perv into a part of the prison say the shower and then allow about 100 cons enter that same shower,
The guards stand outside and then after an hour order them back to their cells.
100 cons return to their cells but the perv is dead after he was f***ed with hammer handles and screwdrivers for about 50 minutes.
Then, watch the ACLU say that the pervs can't be put into the general popuation.
Sorry but if we have to lock the ass hole son a bitches up for life i don't want to pay to have them specially guarded.
no one was there to protect the young victims.
So, how many of you libs are opposed this 'Prisong Styled Justice?"
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| Jun 26 @ 7:45 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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"You are under arrest. You have the right to the presence of an attorney. If you cannot afford one, the court will appoint the most stupid lawyer in the whole county, who cannot make a living other than being your appointed idiot attorney, who it is guaranteed will simply sit there by your side and not even object while you get framed and convicted on flimsy and hearsay evidence. Do you understand your rights now?"
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| Jun 26 @ 8:22 PM |
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bamagary
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well since i,m antigovernment. i think all judges . are trash.keep all forms of government out of our lifes, we would be better off. so as for Supreme Court . just more rich people trying to tell me how to run my life.
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| Jun 26 @ 10:25 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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WOW, if some people would just do a "little" research! Liberal this and liberal that....friend you need to either learn to use "Google", buy some encyclopedias, or start reading newspapers! Then you would know that all your ranting is nothing but.....BS!!!!!
Say, have you ever considered burning "witches" at the stake? 
I noticed Sandra Day O'Connor is listed on this link as retired. Unknown as to why she is still listed. Also, this link will require a "PDF" reader!
some of those, the five, "LIBS" happen to be dyed in the wool republicans
edited to add this....bamagary....I am referring to crouchingtiger ...! 
[Edited on 6/26/2008 10:40 PM]
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| Jun 26 @ 10:29 PM |
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bamagary
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i hate to disagree, but thats what i beleive. its not bs. its what i beleive. so it does not make itwrong. remember randy weaver.
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| Jun 26 @ 11:31 PM |
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Kenn159
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I suppose the libs on here will come to the Supremes defense ( ) on this, good, then put this man and any others who do this into the general population and remove the guards from the premises for 48 hours.
If the child rapists is still even alive ok, but if he is dead, the prison system has done what the f***ing ass hole liberal judges would not do, put the creeps to death and there is no appeal to a higher court.
All these righty hate mongers must have high blood pressure issues.
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| Jun 26 @ 11:39 PM |
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Gallows_Humor
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then let these pervs move in next door to you.
this says it all re: his mindset... I would not wish that on anyone..
and...there is nothing in my post to even warrant his saying that... 
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| Jun 27 @ 11:25 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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I loaded my .38 caliber snub nose Dectective's revolver today with plastic coated hollow points (closest thing to body armor piercing teflon-coated rounds the law allows) happy that the US Supreme Court has allows millions of other gun owners to be far more secure than when the stupid Liberal laws stripped us of the ability to defend ourselves from the home invasion burglars.
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| Jun 27 @ 8:38 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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para.....Teflon coated bulletts have been outlawed, here! But, overseas they are being used by our enemies....Mr. Al Queda! Nuf....Said!
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| Jun 27 @ 8:55 PM |
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meanjolene
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I never post in this forum but I just gotta say anyone who rapes a child and I do emphasize child, deserves the death penalty. If we fail to protect our children, we really do fail. I think if we, as a society, put them to death, it would serve as a deterrent to others.
Those who molest children may be sick, I don't care to argue the point, but if they're sick enough to rape children, they are sick beyond fixing and need a bullet to the brain just as if they were mad dogs.
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| Jun 27 @ 9:22 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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I believe in " an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth"! If someone murders he should be executed!
If you start executing people for rape.....I know we are talking about a heinous crime.....then what is to stop people from cutting off arms and legs for stealing?
You see when someone steals from me he has invaded my sanctuary. He has gotten so close he could have taken my life and families lives as well. So why not execute people that steal, too? Or, just cut off his legs so everyone will always know he has been a thief!
Another one....I hate a damn liar! So, we just cut their tongues out for lying! Then everyone will always know this man is a liar....he will be marked for life!
Could you live with laws like this? They do in Saudi Arabia and most all, if not all, muslim states where the koran is the law!
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| Jun 27 @ 9:33 PM |
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Nightowl001
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I think if we, as a society, put them to death, it would serve as a deterrent to others.
Read up on it some and think again. It has never been demonstrated that the death penalty is an effective deterrent to criminal behavior, and especially the kind of sociopathic behavior exhibited by people with deviant libidos. If the chance of death as a consequence was an effective deterrent, no one would shoot another bag of smack, do another line of coke or meth, smoke another rock or have unprotected sex. There is nothing in human history (despite some flawed 'studies' over the years) to suggest that the death penalty has ever been a greater deterrent than lifelong incarceration (or other severe punishments, including dismemberment). There is a substantial body of work that indicates that once aware they are under a death sentence, those who felt they had little to lose then often feel they have absolutely nothing to lose and, therefore, no reason to reign in any of their impulses. "It doesn't matter what I do now. They can only kill me once."
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| Jun 27 @ 9:36 PM |
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meanjolene
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Nightowl, once is all it takes to get rid of one of these monsters. Put them to death and they'll never get the chance to hurt another child.
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| Jun 27 @ 9:37 PM |
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bamagary
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to me all forms of government. need to butt out of our life's. what gives some old fart a reason to tell me how to run my life. if i want 500 guns. i will have 500 guns.
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| Jun 28 @ 2:15 AM |
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Say_Yes
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Read up on it some and think again. It has never been demonstrated that the death penalty is an effective deterrent to criminal behavior, and especially the kind of sociopathic behavior exhibited by people with deviant libidos.
By the same token, it has never been demonstrated that the risk of being sent to prison (even for a life term, with no chance of parole), is an effective deterrent to criminal behaviour either. As such, by your logic, we should not send them to jail either, as it really does not change societal behaviour.
The death penalty is not about being a deterent (though, I believe that it would be, if it was used more often). It is about, what is reasonable and just punishment, for the crime that was committed. In fact, no place in the constitution, does it say that the level of deterence should be considered, when deciding if the punishment is cruel or unusual. The courts have usurped the power given to the legislature, through such rulings. The constitution does not give them the right to do so. They simply took it.
If you murder someone, then our society should have the right to permanently remove you from it. We should not be obligated to pay to support you, for the rest of your natural life. As such, we as a people, should have the right to revoke your right to live, if by your actions, you show that you are unfit to do so. In my mind, if you rape a five year old child, then you are sub human and you do not deserve to live.
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| Jun 28 @ 3:36 AM |
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Nightowl001
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By the same token, it has never been demonstrated that the risk of being sent to prison (even for a life term, with no chance of parole), is an effective deterrent to criminal behaviour either. As such, by your logic, we should not send them to jail either, as it really does not change societal behaviour. Actually, sending them to jail DOES change SOCIETAL behavior, because while they are in jail they are removed from society, thus the character of open society is changed (presumably for the better) by the removal of that element. Life without parole means they have no further opportunity to commit the crimes for which they were sentenced. My stance on the death penalty has for 35 years or more been: If it is wrong to kill people, then it is wrong to kill people. They are incarcerated, they are no longer a danger to society, and executions are nothing more than vengance. Hey, I'm all for 50+ year sentences for those who molest small children. Hell, have 'em walk around with a red-white-and-blue CM tattooed on their cheeks when they are released at 75 years old so people treat them like they used to treat lepers. I worked in the mental health field for fifteen years; I know the recidivism rate of child molesters. I still do not believe that gives us a right to execute them. You obviously believe we do have such a right. I'm aware that roughly 70% of the population of this country believes the death penalty to be the proper "punishment" for certain crimes. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that point. But I don't mind telling you that I think your point of view of "I don't want to put them to death to stop them from committing the crime again (since we can do that absent the death penalty), but because I don't want to pay to keep them alive" is pretty callous. Wrongful convictions are overtuned in this country all the time, in all sorts of cases. How many innocents are you willing to see killed by the state so you don't have to support the others?
As far as: In fact, no place in the constitution, does it say that the level of deterence should be considered, when deciding if the punishment is cruel or unusual. The courts have usurped the power given to the legislature, through such rulings. The constitution does not give them the right to do so. They simply took it. The Constitution does give the Court the power to determine if a law violates any prohibitions within the Constitution. If they decide that the death penalty constitutes cruel and unusual punishment, which is prohibited by the Constitution and which is within their purview, they have not usurped the power of the legislature, but merely exercised their constitutional powers, no matter what criteria they used to arrive at that finding. This court apparently did not consider deterrence in their ruling in Kennedy v. Louisiana. Rather: The Court went beyond the question in the case to also rule out the death penalty for any crime against an individual (as opposed to "offenses against the state," such as treason or espionage) "where the victim’s life was not taken." I'm sure Para is no doubt inordinately happy to see that execution can still be carried out for treason.
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