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SweetNapaGuy
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Okay, understood. I've known plenty of good Christians. I may not agree with their dogma, but I do see the value in some of their core beliefs. They make good neighbors (my general method of judging the virtue/toxicity of the combination of that individual and their religion and/or politics: would I want them to be my neighbor?).
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| Jul 8 @ 12:03 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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I would never lump good Christian People in with some nuts I have come in contact with!
And I would NEVER confuse the leftists in the Liberation Theology and Black Liberation Theology movement with good Christian People either.
Communism is abhorrent and those who coddle Communists under the guise of religion are Wanks.
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| Jul 8 @ 12:08 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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It's okay. Most people wouldn't lump you in with Christianity, either.
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| Jul 8 @ 12:40 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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It's okay. Most people wouldn't lump you in with Christianity, either.
What a Wank! Now he purports to sit in judgment on other's religiosity. The true answer to Jehad is Crusade! (And I would be one of the guys wearing a white tunic with a red cross emblazzoned on the chest.)
My views are consistent with those of the Knights Templar, each of whom were Christian Priests who made no bones about using a sword in battle to shed Moslem blood in the liberation of the Holy Land.
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| Jul 8 @ 1:06 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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Oh, please, please, please. Put on the white tunic, drive down to the nearest military base, and volunteer.
That way, at least you won't be sending strangers to die for your megalomania...
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Now he purports to sit in judgment on other's religiosity.
Why not? You've already judged long-time Christian churches as not being worthy of being Christian. Why shouldn't your cult be judged the same? At least they base their teachings on the Bible. You base your beliefs on the 19th-century Dianetics.
[Edited on 7/8/2008 1:15 AM]
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| Jul 8 @ 2:12 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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You base your beliefs on the 19th-century Dianetics.
Even I know that Dianetics was a 20th Century work.
By the way, do you only come out at night? What do you fear the most, a silver bullet or a stake through the chest?
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| Jul 8 @ 8:40 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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Even I know that Dianetics was a 20th Century work.
Right. But the Book of Mormon was the 19th-century equivalent. (You really need to work on your reading comprehension.) Book of Mormon was utterly ridiculous, but the gullible still believed in it. Until such time as Dianetics came out, no charlatan had managed to create a book even more ridiculous while still appealing to the masses.
Not that it matters. I say, let people believe anything they want. As long as it makes them decent people. But given that you just spent the evening chortling about the ruination of the lives of tens of millions of your fellow countrymen, all in hopes of killing a few tens of thousands of your political rivals, I don't think your choice of politics and/or religion has done you much good.
Mein Gott. You accuse liberals of being traitors to their country because they point out how many American soldiers have been killed and maimed in the Bush Wars. Then turn around and advocate for the destruction of a thousand times as many innocent American civilians. Hypocrite much?
By the way, do you only come out at night? What do you fear the most, a silver bullet or a stake through the chest?
Some of us have a thing called a "job." This "job" requires us to do other activities during the daylight hours. Someone like you, who apparently has nothing better to do than spew your bile across the internet from sun-up to sun-up, may not understand this concept.
As it is, I'm generally asleep by 10pm. You've got date-stamps on your posts that end after midnight, and start up again before 7am. And go on and on throughout the day. Pleasant thought, though: We're containing your hate-mongering to one website.
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| Jul 8 @ 1:07 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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Mein Gott. You accuse liberals of being traitors to their country because they point out how many American soldiers have been killed and maimed in the Bush Wars.
I NEVER said discussion of war dead was treason; I did say that the exact number of war dead or ships, planes, or war material lost in action should be a state secret.
I also said the number of war dead during the Bush administration remains very low. in comparison with prior wars, and is acceptable. For instance, according to my brother who is an Army combat veteran and forward artilary observer in Viet Name, the US Army considers 15% battle casualties to be acceptable; the US Marine Corps, he says, accepts up to 50% battle casualties.
Do the math. For every 100,000 US Army personnel in Iraq, that means that 15,000 war dead is acceptable. Factor in 4,000 war dead over a period of 5 years and one instantly recognizes that an individual has a greater risk of dying by gunshot wounds in Detroit or Washington D.C. than what the burden is in being in the military deployed to Iraq.
Over the past two years firearms have killed 60,000 Americans, more than the number of U.S. soldiers killed in the Vietnam War. Handguns account for 22,000 deaths a year. In 1991, well before the Los Angeles riots, the guns of Los Angeles County alone killed or wounded 8,050 -- thirteen times the number of U.S. casualties in the Persian Gulf War, according to a survey by the Los Angeles Times. Handguns terrorize far more people than they kill: Department of Justice statistics show that every twenty-four hours handgun-wielding assailants rape thirty-three women, rob 575 people, and assault another 1,116.
Link to source regarding American domestic gunshot deaths
Accordingly, the anti-war Copperhead Democrats are making a mountain out of a molehill.
When the troops come home from the battles in Iraq, they will be stepping into an environment where there is not an average of 750 deaths a year, but instead will be emeshed into a "peacetime domestic environment" where an estimated 30,000 gunshot deaths occur annually.
If you do not believe my figures, Google the question yourself and you will see what I saw for myself.
Disbelieving the radical left is the first step in becoming a Precision Thinker.
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| Jul 8 @ 7:20 PM |
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onoudn
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I've just been reading an article about how Obama wants to continue with Bush's Faith-Based programs. What struck me funny was how Obama says that these religious groups won't be able to proselytize on the public dollar. I wonder if he really believes they won't. And when they do, cause they certainly will, I wonder if he's going to be prepare to take action against those who do ? I seriously doubt it. At least he claims he will though. That's something I guess.
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| Jul 8 @ 7:55 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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And challenging the genocidal tendencies of people even neo-cons think are nuts are the first step in becoming a decent human being.
You STILL were gloating at the thought of widespread devastation visited on your fellow countrymen.
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| Jul 10 @ 4:21 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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You STILL were gloating at the thought of widespread devastation visited on your fellow countrymen. I do not believe Onoudn does any such thing. |
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| Jul 10 @ 4:33 PM |
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eastham
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I wonder if he really believes they won't. And when they do, cause they certainly will
Well it depends on the group. That said, there certainly should be provisions in place whereby if a group does promotes its beliefs, whatever they may be, they will lose their grant money and be ineligible for future participation in the program.
Not that it receives any financial support from Uncle Sam, I belong to a community supported agricultural program. The farm is owned by the Sisters of Charity and we pick up the veggies from the College of St. Vincent, which is also run by the Sisters. Never in the three years I have participated have I ever heard one religious word out of these women. There are all manner of folks who participate -- young, old, gay, straight, black, white, Catholic, Muslim, Jewish, etc. Not one "Jesus loves you" in three years.
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| Jul 11 @ 4:32 PM |
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onoudn
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Never in the three years I have participated have I ever heard one religious word out of these women. There are all manner of folks who participate -- young, old, gay, straight, black, white, Catholic, Muslim, Jewish, etc. Not one "Jesus loves you" in three years.
You are very lucky then. My direct experience in programs funded by the gov as a client, volunteer, and employee is that every single one of them try to impose their religious beliefs on clients. Too bad cause it's sounds like they're giving a bad rep to the faith-based organizations that follow the rules like the one you're involed in.
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| Jul 11 @ 4:50 PM |
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eastham
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Well as David Kuo wrote in his book, Tempting Faith, the faith-based programs have been used as a cash cow for certain political allies of the Administration and those groups providing real service to the poor and downtrodden have not seen any money to support service programs, which were actually making a difference in people's lives.
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| Jul 11 @ 8:12 PM |
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onoudn
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Obama implied that he would put safegaurds in place that the Bush Administration has refused to enact in order to ensure the funding is consistent with the First Amendment .
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