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Jun 30 @ 10:25 PM The next time    
bamagary


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you people want me to beleive your veiws, that will never happen.
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Jun 30 @ 10:29 PM The next time    
nah12


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about like Nova and i believing some of your stories and views huh???...........
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Jun 30 @ 10:45 PM The next time    
bamagary


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that picture probably flatters you.
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Jun 30 @ 11:02 PM The next time    
jaybird777


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Then as soon as they request the US to leave, it will be time to go.


They did ask us. The new goverment askd us ta leave early this month.

Glad to see you are on the bandwagon
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Jul 1 @ 12:08 AM The next time    
Novalite


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They did ask us. The new goverment askd us ta leave early this month.

As you are on the 'bandwagon' and I don't seem to be, could you provide a link please as I am unaware of any official request by the Iraqi parliament for the US to leave when their UN mandate expires at the end of the year.


[Edited on 7/1/2008 12:31 AM]
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Jul 1 @ 8:17 AM The next time    
jaybird777


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Pbl-pbl-pbl

As you are on the 'bandwagon' and I don't seem to be, could you provide a link please as I am unaware of any official request by the Iraqi parliament for the US to leave when their UN mandate expires at the end of the year.


Go do you own research lazy boy.

It was all over the news a coupla three weeks ago. The new government we put in place, first thing they did was ask us ta leave.
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Jul 1 @ 10:14 AM The next time    
jaybird777


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Middle-east-online

Rawstory.com

Huffingtonpost.com

Turkishpress.com


Then as soon as they request the US to leave, it will be time to go.

I guess, by yer definitional, its time for us to pack up

or you gonna start back-pedalin now?
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Jul 1 @ 10:16 AM The next time    
bamagary


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great sites jay thanks
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Jul 1 @ 1:24 PM The next time    
Bj864


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Para, YOU got blood on your hands

I suspect that the above remark didn't bother para at all. He seems to love war, so I assume he must love the blood and suffering that goes with it. Of course he might not like it so well if it were his own.

I cried so many tears when this war started. I couldn't even sleep at night, thinking about all the pain and suffering that was coming. Eventually I had to accept there was nothing I could do.

From the start, many people acted like this was some kind of movie. The reality of war, doesn't seem to sink in to a lot of people, even now.

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Jul 1 @ 2:23 PM The next time    
Novalite


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Jaybird
Go do you own research lazy boy.

Jay, I asked you politely as it is your point to prove, not mine.

Jaybird
It was all over the news a coupla three weeks ago. The new government we put in place, first thing they did was ask us ta leave.

Jay, all your proof is from over a year ago. Some of them introduced a bill which was shut down by the PM of Iraq.

Since then, he has asked the US to stay for two more years.

Your first link from over a year ago;

2007-05-11
Back in Baghdad, the next key date in the debate will be June 30, when Maliki's government will decide whether or not to ask the United Nations to renew its mandate for the US military presence in Iraq for six months.

Since then Iraq asks US to stay one more yearIraq asks US to stay one more year

December 12, 2007 - 5:57AM
Iraqi Premier Nouri al-Maliki has formally asked the UN Security Council to extend one last time the one-year mandate of US-led forces in his country, according to a letter released on Tuesday.

Your next year old link said;

Friday May 11, 2007
However, other legislators said the bill would probably be watered down before becoming a non-binding petition, and that Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki would be able to martial enough support to renew the US mandate next month.

The report from the UN six months later however makes all that null and void SECURITY COUNCIL, ACTING ON IRAQ’S REQUEST, EXTENDS ‘FOR LAST TIME’

Your third link which was almost two years old said;

September 25, 2006
On September 12, 104 Iraqi parliamentarians signed a petition calling for a withdrawal timetable. There are 275 members of the Iraq parliament, and frequently as many as eighty are not present. The constitution allows a measure to become law if supported by a majority of those present and voting. So the withdrawal proposal suddenly would have become law if it wasn't arbitrarily ordered to a committee for "review".

When in reality, two weeks ago UN extends mandate for foreign troops in Iraq

Your last severely out of date proof is more of the same;

05-11-2007
However, other legislators said the bill would probably be watered down before becoming a non-binding petition, and that Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki would martial enough support to renew the US mandate next month.

Hence, it is not as you say and the US has not been asked to leave. In fact, they have had their mandate extended by the US at the request of the Iraqi people.

Jaybird
I guess, by yer definitional, its time for us to pack up

or you gonna start back-pedalin now?

Backpedaling from somebody who is wrong? Never.
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Jul 1 @ 3:05 PM The next time    
Nightowl001


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Hence, it is not as you say and the US has not been asked to leave. In fact, they have had their mandate extended by the US at the request of the Iraqi people.
Under pressure from the US administration, a minority number in the Iraqi parliment requested we stay, obviously against the wishes of the Iraqi people as polled.
From June 4, 2008:
Today, the House held a hearing featuring two members of the Iraqi Parliament in order “to hear their assessment of the proposed U.S.-Iraq Security Agreement,” an agreement proposed by the Bush administration permitting combat forces in Iraq for an unspecified period of time. Iraq is currently seeing “growing and widespread protests…over the scope of the agreement.”
In the hearing, parliamentarians Nadeem Al-Jaberi and Khalaf Al-Ulayyan expressed their support for a timetable for withdrawal of U.S. troops. In an exchange with Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), Al-Jaberi said that U.S. presence in Iraq is highly unpopular with the public, as roughly 70 percent of Iraqis favor a withdrawal:
The mandate was extended by an elitist corporatist group of Washington insiders with tremendous influence over the minority leadership in Iraq. Saying that the Iraqi people want what 70% of them obviously don't but can't stop their leaders from agreeing to is a lie. What the Iraqi people want is us out, and in no way is it honest to say that the Iraqi people requested our continued presence.

[Edited on 7/1/2008 3:22 PM]
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Jul 1 @ 3:20 PM The next time    
bamagary


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mostly the people have never served there self. they let other people fight there battles. you usely can tell the ones who have not served. there all for war.
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Jul 1 @ 3:22 PM The next time    
nah12


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^^^^^ set him straight Nova.....
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Jul 1 @ 3:23 PM The next time    
Novalite


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NO
The mandate was extended by an eleitist corporatist group of Washington insiders with tremendous influence over the minority leadership in Iraq. Saying that the Iraqi people want what 70% of them obviously don't but can't stop their leaders from agreeing to is a lie. What the Iraqi people want is us out, and in no way is it honest to say that the Iraqi people requested our continued presence.

And we all want more services and lower taxes. Doesn't mean it is feasible. An elected representative government does not rule by referendum or polls as the policies would be all over the map as they changed from minute to minute, it rules by what makes sense. The Iraqi people, like every other person on the planet including myself wants the US out of Iraq. However, only when it it is the right time.

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Jul 1 @ 3:26 PM The next time    
bamagary


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my buddy. since you want Iraq war so much. why dont you go fight in it. but your kind lets other people fight your battles.someday you wont be able to hide under your desk.
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Jul 1 @ 3:31 PM The next time    
Nightowl001


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The Iraqi people, like every other person on the planet including myself wants the US out of Iraq.
You can't stop today, can you?
If every person on the planet wanted us out of Iraq, we wouldn't be there. Obviously some-f*ckin'-body wants us there. (Halliburton, Sure-Shot, Shrub, et al). Can't any of neocons do anything besides just regurgitate circular reasoning and lies? (That's a rhetorical question.)
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Jul 1 @ 3:34 PM The next time    
nah12


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now now NO tell us how you really feel.......
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Jul 1 @ 3:35 PM The next time    
Novalite


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NO
You can't stop today, can you?
If every person on the planet wanted us out of Iraq, we wouldn't be there. Obviously some-f*ckin'-body wants us there. (Halliburton, Sure-Shot, Shrub, et al). Can't any of neocons do anything besides just regurgitate circular reasoning and lies? (That's a rhetorical question.)

People who want to make sure that iraq does not fall back into anarchy want the US to stay until it is without a doubt, able to stand on it's own. remember how a few short months ago you were saying how it was falling into a civil war? Now it is not and to make sure it does not get to that point again, the US has been asked to stay (for whatever imaginary corporate bullshit left wing mantra laden rhetorical Air America parrot like reason you wish to insert) by the elected officials who are acting within the Iraqi constitution by goiong to the UN and doing so.
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Jul 1 @ 3:35 PM The next time    
bamagary


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bush cant leave Iraq. or his rich Buddy's will lose money. you no like hulburton. i would like to ask everyone who supports the iraq war, how much is a human life worth.
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Jul 1 @ 3:45 PM The next time    
nah12


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i would like to ask everyone who supports the iraq war, how much is a human life worth.

real interesting question coming from someone that said this...

terrorist are my freedom fighter, it was a great day in 1972 (when the Israeli civilian athletes who were tied up in helicopters were machine gunned to death)

Maybe you need to answer that question yourself there killer.....
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